The Energon Pub

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:33 pm

Redimus GTS wrote:Infact it should be easy enough to set up the 'defensive' thing to be exactly like the arena waiting que, but without the being dumped out of it after a battle reguardless of victory. The only problem I forsee is this: You put 6 of your charecters in the defence que of a sector, then an oposing faction attacks that sector. Dose it pull all 6 of your charecters, or does it just drag one out, even if it's outnumbered?

Personally, I've always liked the idea of being allowed to use our teams as... well teams. Ive seen the arguments time and again, but maybe, with a new game, it could be time to try and work it into the game. If we have less missions with bigger soldier limits, then it's harder to exploit than it would be if you filled an entire mission with your team. Even if we are limited to say, 3 members of one team in each mission, it'd be an improvment.

1:4 ratio perhaps?

Say a mission has max members of 4, then only 1 of yours will be pulled from the que.

If it has 8, then 2 of yours will be pulled in.

If it has 20 (and I would hope we could get 20 on 20 missions) then you'd pull in 4.

There's actually a couple of different ways it can work, i'll spend some time after work tonight pulling the various "defend" ideas together and see what our combined stupidism can come up with.

zorian wrote:An idea that I've heard before, can't remember if it is mine or not, is make it so there is a way for players to "dump" their team into a pool that is used to fill out missions basically fast response troops. Maybe as a penalty have them show up late in the fight? This will allow those people who want to log on go to a screen, select all ,enter (basically what the arena currently is if you have auto CR)then log off to continue whatever they were doing (writing a paper, doing HW, working ect).

What do people think of this idea?

Scroll up, it's pretty much what we've been discussing.

Like Optimus_Prime007 on Facebook · by **Optimus_Prime007** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:52 am

From reading the posts my question is: Will we be able to activate all of our tfs at one time? All 12 at once instead of 6? Sitting around idle is really boring if we can get more in the missions from our teams is it possible to get all of our team members active at once?

Burn wrote:
Redimus GTS wrote:Infact it should be easy enough to set up the 'defensive' thing to be exactly like the arena waiting que, but without the being dumped out of it after a battle reguardless of victory. The only problem I forsee is this: You put 6 of your charecters in the defence que of a sector, then an oposing faction attacks that sector. Dose it pull all 6 of your charecters, or does it just drag one out, even if it's outnumbered?

Personally, I've always liked the idea of being allowed to use our teams as... well teams. Ive seen the arguments time and again, but maybe, with a new game, it could be time to try and work it into the game. If we have less missions with bigger soldier limits, then it's harder to exploit than it would be if you filled an entire mission with your team. Even if we are limited to say, 3 members of one team in each mission, it'd be an improvment.

1:4 ratio perhaps?

Say a mission has max members of 4, then only 1 of yours will be pulled from the que.

If it has 8, then 2 of yours will be pulled in.

If it has 20 (and I would hope we could get 20 on 20 missions) then you'd pull in 4.

There's actually a couple of different ways it can work, i'll spend some time after work tonight pulling the various "defend" ideas together and see what our combined stupidism can come up with.

I like this idea keeping it Ratio'd and having only a percentage of your team that can enter missions. Not having say your entire team in 1 mission.

by **Bloodlust** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:12 pm

Burn wrote:
Redimus GTS wrote:Infact it should be easy enough to set up the 'defensive' thing to be exactly like the arena waiting que, but without the being dumped out of it after a battle reguardless of victory. The only problem I forsee is this: You put 6 of your charecters in the defence que of a sector, then an oposing faction attacks that sector. Dose it pull all 6 of your charecters, or does it just drag one out, even if it's outnumbered?

Personally, I've always liked the idea of being allowed to use our teams as... well teams. Ive seen the arguments time and again, but maybe, with a new game, it could be time to try and work it into the game. If we have less missions with bigger soldier limits, then it's harder to exploit than it would be if you filled an entire mission with your team. Even if we are limited to say, 3 members of one team in each mission, it'd be an improvment.

1:4 ratio perhaps?

Say a mission has max members of 4, then only 1 of yours will be pulled from the que.

If it has 8, then 2 of yours will be pulled in.

If it has 20 (and I would hope we could get 20 on 20 missions) then you'd pull in 4.

There's actually a couple of different ways it can work, i'll spend some time after work tonight pulling the various "defend" ideas together and see what our combined stupidism can come up with.

zorian wrote:An idea that I've heard before, can't remember if it is mine or not, is make it so there is a way for players to "dump" their team into a pool that is used to fill out missions basically fast response troops. Maybe as a penalty have them show up late in the fight? This will allow those people who want to log on go to a screen, select all ,enter (basically what the arena currently is if you have auto CR)then log off to continue whatever they were doing (writing a paper, doing HW, working ect).

What do people think of this idea?

Scroll up, it's pretty much what we've been discussing.

Just remember Burn,

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups!

Also remember, a PERSON is smart, PEOPLE are stupid

News Credits: 3 · by **Archanubis** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:37 pm

Bloodlust wrote:Also remember, a PERSON is smart, PEOPLE are stupid

Paraphrasing *Men in Black* there? ;;)

by **zorian** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:06 pm

Ooops. Well that's what I get for skimming the last page. :oops:

by **Bloodlust** » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:51 pm

Archanubis wrote:
Bloodlust wrote:Also remember, a PERSON is smart, PEOPLE are stupid

Paraphrasing *Men in Black* there?

Really? Didn't know that since I haven't seen the movie in like 12 years.

I read it somewhere else...........don't know where, it just kinda popped into my mind.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:04 pm

Bloodlust wrote:
Archanubis wrote:
Bloodlust wrote:Also remember, a PERSON is smart, PEOPLE are stupid

Paraphrasing *Men in Black* there?

Really? Didn't know that since I haven't seen the movie in like 12 years.

I read it somewhere else...........don't know where, it just kinda popped into my mind.

It's a very old fact. It's a simplification of the way "Mob Mentality" works. Men in Black didn't coin the term.

by **vaporretarder** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 3:51 pm

Absolute Zero wrote:
Bloodlust wrote:
Archanubis wrote:
Bloodlust wrote:Also remember, a PERSON is smart, PEOPLE are stupid

Paraphrasing *Men in Black* there?

Really? Didn't know that since I haven't seen the movie in like 12 years.

I read it somewhere else...........don't know where, it just kinda popped into my mind.

It's a very old fact. It's a simplification of the way "Mob Mentality" works. Men in Black didn't coin the term.

So then you're saying the Enchanted creature gains trample, and if all non-wall creatures of mine attack then this creature gains +*/+0 until end of turn, where * is equal to the number of attacking creatures?

....if anyone gets that reference you're a geek...oh wait I posted it so that calls ME out too.

News Credits: 3 · by **Name_Violation** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 4:07 pm

life totals are now equal to number of creatures in play. armageddon, wrath of god, play a forest. tap forest, play llanowar elves. go.

by **vaporretarder** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:02 pm

Name_Violation wrote:life totals are now equal to number of creatures in play. armageddon, wrath of god, play a forest. tap forest, play llanowar elves. go.

good thing i had a Aerie Ouphes in play when you WOG'ed us, now he comes back and I'm still at 1, AND I have a Teferi's Drake that is going to phase into play on my turn and THEN I kill your face! Plus I have a blacker lotus, just because.

(i kill fellow geeks)

News Credits: 3 · by **Archanubis** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:45 pm

Simple solution.

Rock falls.

Everyone dies.

by **Bloodlust** » Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:15 pm

Or just remember,

Fire PWNS cards

Also, my AT-AT with General Veers, AT-AT pilot and AT-AT lasers PWNS all of your creatures

News Credits: 42 · by **Psychout** » Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:23 am

Can we keep the off topic stuff to this thread please?

People will want to use this thread to see what's going on in the new game and for us to answer their questions.

Thanks guys. B-)

Like steve2275 on Facebook · by **steve2275** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:06 am

Xitamysda wrote:You know, Im really liking the sound of most of there idea guys, If implemented with the right balance 2.0 could be something to really look forward to.

I especially liked the staying in the field until you die and maybe new signups starting with a point or two to spend. Things like that might help get a few extra players hooked.

define die

by **Warrant** » Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:47 am

steve2275 wrote:define die

Think Waspinator, you fight until some one blast you into Scrap then you get to drag yourself to the CR Chamber so you can go back out to repeat it all over again.

Also I would like to see in V2 some more detailed "gear list" but all in all I think We hit all the good stuff by now

News Credits: 1 · by **New Omen** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:24 pm

One of the main appeals of HMW is character creation and the creativity surrounding our wonderful multicoloured icons. So would V2 allow for pics and/or links to be added to our chars Bio's?

http://www.youtube.com/user/mitchsantona · by **mitchsantona** » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:57 pm

Not a big fan of the 6 on 1 or 1 on 6 in missions. Almost would rather wait till they are totally full before they start. Or at least some ratio, like what was discussed.

As far as wishes:

Strength = attack power with melee weapons or no weapons
Endurance = more resiliant to damage. (Noticably) and able to wear better armor.
Intelligence = Smarter attack pattern to single out the weaker enemy first or learn new special tactics
Speed = The same as how it behaves now
Courage = The same as how it behaves now
Rank = Allow extra moves per team, like "Velocitron leads a concentrated attack on Douchobot" All Decepticons gain 10 XP and Douchobot loses 50 Health. Velocitron gains 20 XP.
Skill = Able to learn new manuevers and weild certain weapons
Firepower = How much damage a projectile weapon induces.

by **RAVAGE version 1** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:06 pm

What are the odds of there being an App for the iPhone released that makes it easier to log into and play the game? eventually maybe at least? :grin:

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:18 pm

Isn't there already a iphone app for it? Called "Internet Browser"? Since that's what the game runs in...

by **RAVAGE version 1** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:35 pm

Man Absolute Zero your soooooo smart! thanks for helping me out there!!!
An App would make it much easier to play the game rather than going through the process it takes to sign in, select bot and send them off. If you don't have anything intelligent or helpful to say, keep your comments to yourself so you don't sound like an idiot.

News Credits: 3 · by **Name_Violation** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:38 pm

PREDAC0N MEGATRON wrote:What are the odds of there being an App for the iPhone released that makes it easier to log into and play the game? eventually maybe at least?

i hope one never comes out. if people cbf to play in a browser or on a computer thats their prob. why should people get special treatment beacuse they bought a phone?

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 5:18 pm

PREDAC0N MEGATRON wrote:Man Absolute Zero your soooooo smart! thanks for helping me out there!!!
An App would make it much easier to play the game rather than going through the process it takes to sign in, select bot and send them off. If you don't have anything intelligent or helpful to say, keep your comments to yourself so you don't sound like an idiot.

And if you don't have anything civil to say then keep your comments to yourself before we slap a warning on you.

News Credits: 1 · by **Redimus** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:32 pm

Name_Violation wrote:
PREDAC0N MEGATRON wrote:What are the odds of there being an App for the iPhone released that makes it easier to log into and play the game? eventually maybe at least?

i hope one never comes out. if people cbf to play in a browser or on a computer thats their prob. why should people get special treatment beacuse they bought a phone?

Why is having an app to play on your phone easier a bad thing (unless your reason for not wanting one is enitrly selfish)?

I havnt got an iPhone, but I'd imagine it'd make the game more populer (and therefore give us more oponanats/allies) if the game could be easily played on it. That said, im guessing it'd take a fair bit of knoladge on the specifics of iPhone programming and I would wonder if he'd have the tiem to learn em just for a free job he's doing.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 6:46 pm

As far as I know there's no current plans for a mobile version. If such a thing were to be undertaken i'd much rather see it done for the whole site rather than just a section of it.

Now before people get up in arms about the benefits of a mobile version, you don't need to. I know the benefits are there. And for those who think it wouldn't be fair because it'll give people more time to play, well you know, get over that. People can sit in front of their computer 18 hours a day and no one has a problem with that.

News Credits: 1 · by **Absolute Zero** » Sat Sep 19, 2009 9:51 pm

Burn wrote:As far as I know there's no current plans for a mobile version. If such a thing were to be undertaken i'd much rather see it done for the whole site rather than just a section of it.

Now before people get up in arms about the benefits of a mobile version, you don't need to. I know the benefits are there. And for those who think it wouldn't be fair because it'll give people more time to play, well you know, get over that. People can sit in front of their computer 18 hours a day and no one has a problem with that.

That's not true. There was a time a few years ago when people where complaining that there needed to be a time limit to how long a person could play the game everyday. "I can't catch up to so-and-so in the ranks, they play to much. It's not fair." was the basic arguement.