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News Credits: 1452 · Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:46 pm

Well.. I'm just getting use to the whole seeker term. I'm guessing it's just the name for the Decepticon plane type Transformers

So I know there's definetly.

-Starscream
-Thundercracker
-Skywarp
-Sunstorm

Is Blitzwing a seeker? Are there any more?

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:55 pm

Blurrz wrote:Well.. I'm just getting use to the whole seeker term. I'm guessing it's just the name for the Decepticon plane type Transformers

So I know there's definetly.

-Starscream
-Thundercracker
-Skywarp
-Sunstorm

Is Blitzwing a seeker? Are there any more?

Starscream - Clone: Sunstorm
Thundercracker
Skywarp
Ramjet
Thrust
Dirge

It's hinted in the cartoon that there are a lot of seeker types, and in War Within, the seekers were mass produced grunts for Megatron

News Credits: 1452 · Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:03 pm

Thanks! What do you mean by Sunstorm being a clone of Starscream?

Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:09 pm

Shockwave made a clone of Starscream during the time the Autobots & Decepticons came back to Cybertron in War & Peace. There were actually more than just Starscream if I remember correctly. Sunstorm just happened to activate one day & decided to be a loose cannon w/his own agenda.

Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:13 pm

Decepticlone Soundwave wrote:Shockwave made a clone of Starscream during the time the Autobots & Decepticons came back to Cybertron in War & Peace. There were actually more than just Starscream if I remember correctly. Sunstorm just happened to activate one day & decided to be a loose cannon w/his own agenda.

In his toy bio he wasn't a clone though. I prefered the way he was in his bio to how he was implemented in the comic, he could have been so much better.

News Credits: 1 · Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:18 pm

Decepticlone Soundwave wrote:Shockwave made a clone of Starscream during the time the Autobots & Decepticons came back to Cybertron in War & Peace. There were actually more than just Starscream if I remember correctly. Sunstorm just happened to activate one day & decided to be a loose cannon w/his own agenda.

well, acting upon somebody elses, apparently

News Credits: 38 · Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:42 pm

Uncrazzimatic wrote:
Decepticlone Soundwave wrote:Shockwave made a clone of Starscream during the time the Autobots & Decepticons came back to Cybertron in War & Peace. There were actually more than just Starscream if I remember correctly. Sunstorm just happened to activate one day & decided to be a loose cannon w/his own agenda.

In his toy bio he wasn't a clone though. I prefered the way he was in his bio to how he was implemented in the comic, he could have been so much better.

I use a combonation of comic and bio for Sunstorm if I use him. There are also a number of unnamed generic types too.

News Credits: 1 · Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:36 am

Blurrz wrote:Well.. I'm just getting use to the whole seeker term. I'm guessing it's just the name for the Decepticon plane type Transformers

So I know there's definetly.

-Starscream
-Thundercracker
-Skywarp
-Sunstorm

Is Blitzwing a seeker? Are there any more?

Original seekers:

Starscream

Thundercracker

Skywarp (Slightly different mold)

Cone heads:

Thrust

Ramjet

Dirge (I allways have trouble remembering this one. I think it's because the name isn't in use anymore.)

Other: Sunstorm (who is nothing more than a miscolor of Starscream from what I can tell)

Cyclonus and Scourge (At least one of them was upgraded from either Skywarp or Thundercracker so they still count.)

Allso if you look through the database on this site they actully list all the seekers for you. I just thought I'd make this list off memory before I looked it up and posted this link. Seekers

Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:39 am

Yes, you arecorrect that the 'con plane types are the seekers. This does not incluse Astrotrain/Blitzwing. Those are Triple changers.

News Credits: 2 · Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:23 pm

Hey, Saber Prime, could you edit your post with this link, so it doesn't stretch the page so much?

Code: Select all: [url]http://www.seibertron.com/database/list.php?view=&f_subgroup_id=3[/url]

Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:40 pm

Saber Prime wrote:Other: Sunstorm (who is nothing more than a miscolor of Starscream from what I can tell)

That's not really true though is it? Sure the colour was chosen because of what may have been a miscoloured Starscream (I have yet to see anything that disproves that they were meant to be generic seekers and its the previous panel where they resembled the named ones thats miscoloured) but the guy has a toy, bio and comic appearance, hes a real character with his ownpersonality now like it or not.

News Credits: 2 · Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:42 pm

Uncrazzimatic wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:Other: Sunstorm (who is nothing more than a miscolor of Starscream from what I can tell)

That's not really true though is it? Sure the colour was chosen because of what may have been a miscoloured Starscream (I have yet to see anything that disproves that they were meant to be generic seekers and its the previous panel where they resembled the named ones thats miscoloured) but the guy has a toy, bio and comic appearance, hes a real character with his ownpersonality now like it or not.

Except Sunstorm wasn't given any of that until 2003, 19 years after the color accident that created him.

News Credits: 3 · Fri Jun 08, 2007 2:49 pm

You know..my twin brother gets really pissed when I refer to him as a miscolour of me.

Give poor sunstorm some credit

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Fri Jun 08, 2007 3:54 pm

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Fri Jun 08, 2007 4:08 pm

Shadowman wrote:
Uncrazzimatic wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:Other: Sunstorm (who is nothing more than a miscolor of Starscream from what I can tell)

That's not really true though is it? Sure the colour was chosen because of what may have been a miscoloured Starscream (I have yet to see anything that disproves that they were meant to be generic seekers and its the previous panel where they resembled the named ones thats miscoloured) but the guy has a toy, bio and comic appearance, hes a real character with his ownpersonality now like it or not.

Except Sunstorm wasn't given any of that until 2003, 19 years after the color accident that created him.

I'm not disputing that that's his origin, I'm saying that describeing him as just a Starscream miscolour is not really adequate, as there is more to the character than that. It's like saying that Skywarp and Thundercracker are repainted Starscreams, it's true, but it doesn't really reflect who they are.

Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:52 pm

Reading through all the links, it seems that there are around at least 8 (9?) major Seeker characters, and a whole lot more numerable and unnamed ones. I didn't know there where so many!

Sat Jun 09, 2007 11:49 pm

I also hear that sunstorm was a simply color mess up but i think that after so many people asked who he was and such they decided to make him starscreams radioactive twin /clone thing.

News Credits: 1452 · Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:06 am

Actually i think the story behind Sunstorm was that he did appear in the tv show once, and then when Hasbro released Starscream, e-hobby made an exclusive repaint of Sunstorm, and there you have it, another named Seeker.

News Credits: 1 · Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:51 am

You know not alot of people realize this unless they actully have or at least seen the toys buy Skywarp is actully a remold. He has added details on the wings that the other seekers don't have.

This is more apperent on the Armada versions but G1 was done that way too.

Tue Jun 12, 2007 2:10 am

Saber Prime wrote:You know not alot of people realize this unless they actully have or at least seen the toys buy Skywarp is actully a remold. He has added details on the wings that the other seekers don't have.

This is more apperent on the Armada versions but G1 was done that way too.

The Armada ones I noticed, but care to enlighten us on the G1 differences? :-?

News Credits: 38 · Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:02 am

Emperor Primacron the 1st wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:You know not alot of people realize this unless they actully have or at least seen the toys buy Skywarp is actully a remold. He has added details on the wings that the other seekers don't have.

This is more apperent on the Armada versions but G1 was done that way too.

The Armada ones I noticed, but care to enlighten us on the G1 differences?

I just checked my original G1 Skywarp to Original G1 Starscream and there are no differences that I can see. They are absolutely identical.

Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:02 am

The one thing I noticed is that a lot of F-15 Seekers seem to have red lines on their wings, and Skywarp is one of the few who doesn't. But its one of the few differances, I think.

Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:20 am

I always thought that Seekers were a much larger bunch than just the ones protrayed in the cartoon and comic. Even with Sunstorm, who sort of doesn't count as a Seeker I think, 7 members of a feared, elite unit seems small. I know there's only like 6 Wreckers, but the Seekers always struck me as being multiples.