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News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:47 am

I wasn't gonna get the Sweep unless I saw it in stores, because I figured it was the exact same as Scourge just with the hand switched, but now I might have to order it online. And I also like the brighter blue better.

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 10:53 am

It is odd because when Hotrod & Scourge first started showing up in stores, I only saw Scourge maybe 2 or 3 times (and it was only ever 1 of him), Whereas I saw Hotrod on a regular basis. I don't want to say he was a shelf warmer, but he was always around. Still, I guess with the slowness of product restocking, even all those Hotrods are gone now. Generations Voyagers (Kingdom or SS), only come about once case every few weeks, and they sell quickly.

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:13 am

o.supreme wrote:It is odd because when Hotrod & Scourge first started showing up in stores, I only saw Scourge maybe 2 or 3 times (and it was only ever 1 of him), Whereas I saw Hotrod on a regular basis. I don't want to say he was a shelf warmer, but he was always around. Still, I guess with the slowness of product restocking, even all those Hotrods are gone now. Generations Voyagers (Kingdom or SS), only come about once case every few weeks, and they sell quickly.

Voyagers are going to be a problem for a while since Hasbro is making them 3 to a case meaning someone is always shortpacked. The problem with Scourge is that he was shortpacked 1 for every 2 Hot Rods. Then Hot Rod was shortpacked with Bee movie Screamer in the next wave. That's why you saw him around for a while.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:14 am

The Sweeps?

Pah!

Worthless release not even coming with a broom accessory. [-(

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:17 am

I knew about the 2:1 ratio, but I think it's the slowness of the product coming to stores which is the bigger issue, I guess that's why ordering from Pulse is at least a guarantee.

So, who does The Sweep come packed with? I think the last new SS Voyager I saw in store was Starscream (and only once). Haven't seen BB "Thrust" or Wreck-Gar yet.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:18 am

o.supreme wrote:It is odd because when Hotrod & Scourge first started showing up in stores, I only saw Scourge maybe 2 or 3 times (and it was only ever 1 of him), Whereas I saw Hotrod on a regular basis. I don't want to say he was a shelf warmer, but he was always around. Still, I guess with the slowness of product restocking, even all those Hotrods are gone now. Generations Voyagers (Kingdom or SS), only come about once case every few weeks, and they sell quickly.

Is Blurr still sticking around or has he sold out as well?

News Credits: 12 · by **Razorbeast88** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:19 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:The Sweeps?

Pah!

Worthless release not even coming with a broom accessory.

Yeah and there isn't even a chimney transformer for them to team up with smh

News Credits: 48 · by **Nemesis Primal** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:19 am

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:It is odd because when Hotrod & Scourge first started showing up in stores, I only saw Scourge maybe 2 or 3 times (and it was only ever 1 of him), Whereas I saw Hotrod on a regular basis. I don't want to say he was a shelf warmer, but he was always around. Still, I guess with the slowness of product restocking, even all those Hotrods are gone now. Generations Voyagers (Kingdom or SS), only come about once case every few weeks, and they sell quickly.

Voyagers are going to be a problem for a while since Hasbro is making them 3 to a case meaning someone is always shortpacked. The problem with Scourge is that he was shortpacked 1 for every 2 Hot Rods. Then Hot Rod was shortpacked with Bee movie Screamer in the next wave. That's why you saw him around for a while.

And also people were buying duplicate Scourges to use as Sweeps, since we didn't know about this release yet.

o.supreme wrote:So, who does The Sweep come packed with? I think the last new SS Voyager I saw in store was Starscream (and only once). Haven't seen BB "Thrust" or Wreck-Gar yet.

This case is supposed to be 2 Sweeps, 1 Wreck-Gar.

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:23 am

william-james88 wrote:Is Blurr still sticking around or has he sold out as well?

I haven't seen any SS86 deluxe in my area since early summer. The last of the Kup/Blurr/Jazz wave are gone, though they did hang around for a while

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:25 am

Nemesis Primal wrote:
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
o.supreme wrote:It is odd because when Hotrod & Scourge first started showing up in stores, I only saw Scourge maybe 2 or 3 times (and it was only ever 1 of him), Whereas I saw Hotrod on a regular basis. I don't want to say he was a shelf warmer, but he was always around. Still, I guess with the slowness of product restocking, even all those Hotrods are gone now. Generations Voyagers (Kingdom or SS), only come about once case every few weeks, and they sell quickly.

Voyagers are going to be a problem for a while since Hasbro is making them 3 to a case meaning someone is always shortpacked. The problem with Scourge is that he was shortpacked 1 for every 2 Hot Rods. Then Hot Rod was shortpacked with Bee movie Screamer in the next wave. That's why you saw him around for a while.
And also people were buying duplicate Scourges to use as Sweeps, since we didn't know about this release yet.

o.supreme wrote:So, who does The Sweep come packed with? I think the last new SS Voyager I saw in store was Starscream (and only once). Haven't seen BB "Thrust" or Wreck-Gar yet.
This case is supposed to be 2 Sweeps, 1 Wreck-Gar.

Yeah, they kind of mitigated things by making Wreck-Gar shortpacked, but in back to back waves, so you essentially get even distribution of BB Thrust, Wreck Gar and Sweep over 2 waves.

News Credits: 56 · by **o.supreme** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 11:30 am

Makes sense, that's what they did in Kingdom, bringing back Cyclonus who was initially sort packed in wave 1, into wave 3 with Rhinox. I'm hoping Inferno will be offered again when Tigatron eventually comes out.

News Credits: 19 · by **blackeyedprime** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 12:06 pm

Kinda hoping SS gets a gaming greats line similar to star wars figures, it would be a nice way of getting some newer versions of the baynus game only figures, cell shaded Devy which would probably fit with ss86 stuff, FOC stuff (eeeww) and a 8bit style Ultra Magnus & Rodimus colored Magnus from mystery of Convoy

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:10 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:Worthless release not even coming with a broom accessory.

If it did we would have to pay leader class price. Like Siege Astrotrain. >:oP

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:26 am

Rodimus Prime wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:Worthless release not even coming with a broom accessory.
If it did we would have to pay leader class price. Like Siege Astrotrain.

Lol, true that! :lol:

News Credits: 11 · by **Munkky** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:07 pm

I got Slag today, he looks good in both modes, but I'd say the dinosaur mode is my favourite of the two. The transformation is a lot more complicated than Grimlock's, to the point where I was caught off guard a few times, but he's a chonky lil boi with a good amount of weight to him, he doesn't feel brittle or flimsy at all, and looks good next to Grimlock. The less said about Daniel the better.

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:04 pm

Razorbeast88 wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:The Sweeps?

Pah!

Worthless release not even coming with a broom accessory.

Yeah and there isn't even a chimney transformer for them to team up with smh

In the UK, some people might imagine this when they hear of "the Sweeps":

- https://youtu.be/0zThQ4jDNEc

Every time Unicron says "And these shall be your minions, the Sweeps", I imagine them all making that annoying sound effect, and requiring Scourge to translate for them to Galvatron, just like Matthew Corbett.

Anyway, I thought this new version came with a different face? It's a bit silly not to.

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:38 pm

Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

News Credits: 9 · by **Sowndwave76** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 4:50 pm

Sorry if this is old news by now, but I saw photos that showed Sweep being a lighter variation of blue than Scourge. I wish he wasn’t such an electric blue color… Either more desaturated, or a shade of Scourge’s blue would’ve been better imo… But I am happy they’re not exactly the same.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:04 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

Smaller than Origins Bee?

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:21 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

But it's bigger than the POTP version, right?

News Credits: 5 · by **Nuclearxpotato** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:27 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

But it's bigger than the POTP version, right?

The Titan's Return one was half the price, so it better be.

News Credits: 11 · by **primalxconvoy** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:32 pm

Nuclearxpotato wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

But it's bigger than the POTP version, right?

The Titan's Return one was half the price, so it better be.

And these little beauties are even cheaper!

- https://showzstore.com/mechfanstoys-mft ... p0094.html

Just a shame they aren't selling the set with the clear purple and the other one with gold parts...

https://youtu.be/nMv6hj6y73Q

News Credits: 331 · by **chuckdawg1999** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 5:48 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.
Smaller than Origins Bee?

Good question, I'll have to check when I open it up. Off the cuff, I want to say no.

primalxconvoy wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

But it's bigger than the POTP version, right?

I want to say yes but I don't have one handy to compare.

News Credits: 5 · by **Nuclearxpotato** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:04 pm

chuckdawg1999 wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

But it's bigger than the POTP version, right?

I want to say yes but I don't have one handy to compare.

I think comparing it to PotP Brawn or Beachcomber would be close enough. If I remember correctly they were around the same height (as were most other Legends at the time)

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Thu Sep 16, 2021 7:10 pm

Nuclearxpotato wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Well, I got Gnaw and man is it small. Like, I really didn't expect it to be THAT small. Most of the box is the plastic tray. If the back panel came attached there would be even MORE empty plastic space.

But it's bigger than the POTP version, right?

I want to say yes but I don't have one handy to compare.

I think comparing it to PotP Brawn or Beachcomber would be close enough. If I remember correctly they were around the same height (as were most other Legends at the time)

Stop being fools and just check out the damn video review.

I mean, for Shark's sake. :BANG_HEAD: