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Question about the Matrix of Leadership in the comics

Postby william-james88 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:44 am

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While I really like the comics, I have a tough time with how inconsistent some aspects are. Like things dont line up with the order of the primes, Megatron Origins no longer gels with the rest continuity wise and other things.

But the one that bothers me the most is how inconsistent the idea of the Matrix of Leadership is, even in Roberts' own writing.

My idea of the matrix, from the shows, is that it is super powerful and can give its bearer strength. And it can also be used as a weapon, if wielded by the right person (oh ****, I might have answered my own question). And then we get to the comics where:

In All Hail Megatron, it seems like its a big deal the Decepticons got it off Pime's chest, but they dont use it and nothing is made of it (do we see Optimus get it back?)

In Lost Light, its much more of an artifact. Not powerful, but meaningful and ancient, plus it contains a map. This version works with the later reveal that the more mythical aspect of Cybertronian lore is just myth afterall (probably)

But then I read that chaos 2 parter where Optimus asks Hot Rod about how it felt when he connected with the Matrix and there is definitely something there to it. With different people experiencing a connection differently.

And then we see that connection in Autocracy where the matrix definitely has a power to itself. And immense power, rebuilding Prime and giving him strength (ala G1 cartoon lore).

So like what is it? How powerful is the Matrix? Am I the only one who finds it inconsistent?
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Re: Question about the Matrix of Leadership in the comics

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:03 am

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As far as Megatron Origin goes, which carries on into the -Ations, the Decepticons aren't really interested in it. Megatron himself doesn't really even seem to care it exists.

All Hail Megatron was a soft reboot, so any "insight" gained within it only really has any bearing on that story and later the Ongoing that followed it.

The Primacy Trilogy was prequels made to cater to latter continuity IE MTMTE/RiD.

There is no consistency to things such as the Matrix because the tone and mandate was changed at least three times throughout IDWverse publication history.

1)Furman's ongoing narrative from Megatron: Origin to Spotlight: Sideswipe.

2)All Hail Megatron to CHAOS.

3)DOoP to present day.

The best you can do is to define the consistencies and rules per volume, as opposed to those shared throughout the IDWverse.
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Re: Question about the Matrix of Leadership in the comics

Postby william-james88 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 9:14 am

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Thanks for your reply. Makes sense (well no it does not, but I get it)
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Re: Question about the Matrix of Leadership in the comics

Postby ScottyP » Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:51 pm

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I've gotta agree with ANSR on this one, it just varies so much by era. On top of that, I feel like there's still things we're going to learn about it in the few issues left.
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Re: Question about the Matrix of Leadership in the comics

Postby OptimusMegatron878 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 11:02 pm

So please settle this for me...is there actually a Decepticon matrix?
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