The Energon Pub

While the toy has been available to preorder on Hasbro Pulse for a while now (at $169.99 USD), we have some new product shots from Takara now that they are revealing the product themselves for their own preorder.

It turns out, while these are real photos and not renders, they have the exact same poses found on the renders on Hasbro Pulse. These give us the best indication yet at the finished product.

You can order it here : https://hasbropulse.com/products/transf ... lack-zarak

Black Zarack looks glorious.

They left out two headed dragon mode

Rodimus Knight wrote:Black Zarack looks glorious.

Oh, so glorious indeed!

I'm so glad that I preordered AND fully paid mine months ago.

Looking forward to Zarak, dunno where he's going but that's another problem for another day.

BZ will be going into PotP Predaking's space (next to Legends Grand Max), on my Titan Shelf. I'll have to find a new spot for PotP Predaking and his *eventual* Rival MP Raiden. Ark is currently in my sons bedroom in ship mode as the odd Titan out, and it looks as if he will be that way for a while.

The price is so expensive through.

EDIT: - I wish this was available via Amazon Japan, instead of was a TTM exclusive...

primalxconvoy wrote:The price is so expensive through.

EDIT: - I wish this was available via Amazon Japan, instead of was a TTM exclusive...

You mean the Takara price for Select Black Zarak?
My condolences.

I feel privileged to have paid 225$can plus tax and shipping for mine. Especially when the normal price for a Titan is 250$can plus taxes over here.

I think I am going to put this guy in robot mode and Scorponok in either city or scorpion mode (probably scorpion). The head on this one is absolutely stunning. It kinda makes me wish I got Grand Max so I can display Fort Max in city mode, oh well.

Absolutely gorgeous. Now I want a leader Scorponok to differentiate him from BZ. BZ looks so much better

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Absolutely gorgeous. Now I want a leader Scorponok to differentiate him from BZ. BZ looks so much better

The OG Scorponok can be considered a leader. A big leader, but still. If you can tolerate getting an incomplete one, as long that it have it's headmaster, you can get one for a (very relatively) reasonable price.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Absolutely gorgeous. Now I want a leader Scorponok to differentiate him from BZ. BZ looks so much better

The OG Scorponok can be considered a leader. A big leader, but still. If you can tolerate getting an incomplete one, as long that it have it's headmaster, you can get one for a (very relatively) reasonable price.

With his bulk, he's more like commander class I think. And I wish I could get 2 of Black Zarak to display in both robot and scorpion mode.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Absolutely gorgeous. Now I want a leader Scorponok to differentiate him from BZ. BZ looks so much better

I suppose you could install the inevitable recoloured add-on kit that will make it taller than the standard height of the recent Scorp?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Absolutely gorgeous. Now I want a leader Scorponok to differentiate him from BZ. BZ looks so much better

The OG Scorponok can be considered a leader. A big leader, but still. If you can tolerate getting an incomplete one, as long that it have it's headmaster, you can get one for a (very relatively) reasonable price.

With his bulk, he's more like commander class I think. And I wish I could get 2 of Black Zarak to display in both robot and scorpion mode.

I'd consider the G1 Scorponok more of a Supreme class, myself.

The only option for a "leader" Scorponok is the Energon one.

I'm surprised that not even 3P thought of making a Marvel comic accurate "G1" leader Scorponok yet.

-Kanrabat- wrote:The only option for a "leader" Scorponok is the Energon one.

I'm surprised that not even 3P thought of making a Marvel comic accurate "G1" leader Scorponok yet.

https://youtu.be/PKNbxvDRxS4

primalxconvoy wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:The only option for a "leader" Scorponok is the Energon one.

I'm surprised that not even 3P thought of making a Marvel comic accurate "G1" leader Scorponok yet.

https://youtu.be/PKNbxvDRxS4

Oh, I remember that one!
Too bad that it's just 3D printed and only ONE guy can make and sell it. Must be worth a fortune if Shapeways is any indications.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Absolutely gorgeous. Now I want a leader Scorponok to differentiate him from BZ. BZ looks so much better

The OG Scorponok can be considered a leader. A big leader, but still. If you can tolerate getting an incomplete one, as long that it have it's headmaster, you can get one for a (very relatively) reasonable price.

With his bulk, he's more like commander class I think. And I wish I could get 2 of Black Zarak to display in both robot and scorpion mode.

I'd consider the G1 Scorponok more of a Supreme class, myself.

Aren't those classes about the same?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Absolutely gorgeous. Now I want a leader Scorponok to differentiate him from BZ. BZ looks so much better

The OG Scorponok can be considered a leader. A big leader, but still. If you can tolerate getting an incomplete one, as long that it have it's headmaster, you can get one for a (very relatively) reasonable price.

With his bulk, he's more like commander class I think. And I wish I could get 2 of Black Zarak to display in both robot and scorpion mode.

I'd consider the G1 Scorponok more of a Supreme class, myself.

Aren't those classes about the same?

Commander is smaller.




Another comparison (G1 Star Convoy was Commander-sized):

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Absolutely gorgeous. Now I want a leader Scorponok to differentiate him from BZ. BZ looks so much better

The OG Scorponok can be considered a leader. A big leader, but still. If you can tolerate getting an incomplete one, as long that it have it's headmaster, you can get one for a (very relatively) reasonable price.

With his bulk, he's more like commander class I think. And I wish I could get 2 of Black Zarak to display in both robot and scorpion mode.

I'd consider the G1 Scorponok more of a Supreme class, myself.

Aren't those classes about the same?

Commander is smaller.

And definitely lighter.

I wonder how much they would charge today if they'd make something as big and as massive as Armada Unicron today?
100$us?

-Kanrabat- wrote:I wonder how much they would charge today if they'd make something as big and as massive as Armada Unicron today?
100$us?

The reissues of Cybertron Starscream and Primus in Platinum Edition and TLK, respectively, were exorbitantly more expensive than their original price, and Starscream was among the simplest Supremes while Primus was the among the smallest.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I wonder how much they would charge today if they'd make something as big and as massive as Armada Unicron today?
100$us?

I'd put the starting price at $150 at least. That was the Toys R Us (RIP) price in the US for TLK G2 Primus back in 2017.

Edit: I forgot about Greenicron, who I got for $100 from Amazon Japan in 2019. So I'd say somewhere between $100 and $150.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I wonder how much they would charge today if they'd make something as big and as massive as Armada Unicron today?
100$us?

I'd put the starting price at $150 at least. That was the Toys R Us (RIP) price in the US for TLK G2 Primus back in 2017.

Edit: I forgot about Greenicron, who I got for $100 from Amazon Japan in 2019. So I'd say somewhere between $100 and $150.

Almost the same price as a titan then.
This makes the old Supreme class pretty pointless for new toys today.

Inflation is a thing. Supreme class would be more expensive nowadays. Plus they had lights and sounds which is something we don't have anymore.

Hasbro Pulse sent me some emails this week. They're all basically this: