The Energon Pub

Ok. Whats the deal with shockwave alternators bionaltech? I saw him and he looks a bit better than energon shockblast due to colors and most importantly the hand fun.
I dont like him being a car but its a fair trade.
So, Why is alternator shock wave not the go to shock wave? How big are each and are either to scale with the generations line?
Thanks guys n gals!

ShardFenix wrote:normal sized transformers that turn into guns are the dumbest thing imaginable. Even the people that scream G1! should see this. Who fired the guns people tansformed into? oh yeah other robots...so a deluxe that turns into a gun means something that can be used by no one because mass shifting does not exist. Hence gun transformers are just stupid. In alt-mode its just a lame-ass pistol laying on your shelf

Shockwave was more of a weapons platform that looked like a ray gun. Have a read of the Marvel comics, he pretty much stayed the same size and just floated in the air while unleashing big ol bursts of destruction. No need to be held!

Burn wrote:

ShardFenix wrote:normal sized transformers that turn into guns are the dumbest thing imaginable. Even the people that scream G1! should see this. Who fired the guns people tansformed into? oh yeah other robots...so a deluxe that turns into a gun means something that can be used by no one because mass shifting does not exist. Hence gun transformers are just stupid. In alt-mode its just a lame-ass pistol laying on your shelf

Shockwave was more of a weapons platform that looked like a ray gun. Have a read of the Marvel comics, he pretty much stayed the same size and just floated in the air while unleashing big ol bursts of destruction. No need to be held!

That would be fine and actually perfect. Im just thinking of the original toy which was a gun as well as the cartoon like this scene from the search for alpha trion

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Image:SearchforAlphaTrion_Shockwave_gun_mode.jpg

Burn wrote:

ShardFenix wrote:normal sized transformers that turn into guns are the dumbest thing imaginable. Even the people that scream G1! should see this. Who fired the guns people tansformed into? oh yeah other robots...so a deluxe that turns into a gun means something that can be used by no one because mass shifting does not exist. Hence gun transformers are just stupid. In alt-mode its just a lame-ass pistol laying on your shelf

Shockwave was more of a weapons platform that looked like a ray gun. Have a read of the Marvel comics, he pretty much stayed the same size and just floated in the air while unleashing big ol bursts of destruction. No need to be held!

Shockwave requires no hug, puny human.

lets be honest though...they will probably just make him a tank...

BeastProwl wrote:

Blurrz wrote:Everyone on the Seibertron.com staff gets sekrit infos. It's just I can't keep my mouth shut

VERY Off topic here, but If I don't ask now, I may not get the chance to later.
What the hell is that creepy thing in your sig and avatar box?

I believe it's a Spiny from Super Mario Bros.:



As for Shockwave, I too believe he'll be a tank due to Hasbro's current reality (except for movie toys of course) and scale kick that they're on. I don't care as long as it looks good, but I've got a commission from FrenzyRumble for one of his Shockwave's in the works, so that's what I'll have on my classics shelf anyways once I get it.

Personally I'd love to see the unreleased Titanium (and Arcee too for thjat matter) that was on show at Botcon 07 tooled up for plastic and dropped into the next Classics style line. Absolutely not going to happen but that was a cool looking Shockers.

I'm covered for my larger scale Classics shelves with E Shockblast, could just do with something that scales with the Classics Seekers and Sweeps.

decepta-scott wrote:Ok. Whats the deal with shockwave alternators bionaltech? I saw him and he looks a bit better than energon shockblast due to colors and most importantly the hand fun.
I dont like him being a car but its a fair trade.
So, Why is alternator shock wave not the go to shock wave? How big are each and are either to scale with the generations line?
Thanks guys n gals!

Alternators are a liittle over voyager sized. So being a car puts them massively out of scale with the classic deluxe vehicles. Energon Shockblast is a liittle taller in robot mode than Alternator Shocky, but because he has no real basis for his altmode the size difference works.

With that said, I feel the need to post the pic of the unreleased Shocky that was mentioned. I would have loved if they released him, but hopefully will get a new better mold in the not so distant future. In the meantime here is Titanium Shocky for your viewing pleasure.

Gun please. Nothing else will substitute.

I really enjoy his G1 alt mode. Looks cool when you shoot it in the dark and it reallly annoys people when you aim it right in they're faces and pull the trigger. He will also need squeelling sound effects.

Actually.....If they can't make him as cool as G1 than i don't want it at all.

trukk not munky hurr durr

ShardFenix wrote:trukk not munky hurr durr

They can make him anything they want i don't really care. But they'll be hard pressed to beat the coolness of the G1 figure and that's a fact.

EDIT: Hey wait.....did i just take the bait from a troll?.....dammit.

Mwahahahahaha

I win again!

I mean i understand the fact that he was a gun and all, but lets look at history

Soundwave- No longer a cassette player
Megatron- No longer a gun
Perceptor- No longer a microscope
Shockwave- Probably wont be a gun

Ill also say the robot mode for the DOTM one was personally pretty sweet. Alt-mode was just a stupid rearrangin of partsinto something vaguely tanklike but whatever haha

the WFC alt mode is pretty sweet.

ShardFenix wrote:Mwahahahahaha

I win again!

I mean i understand the fact that he was a gun and all, but lets look at history

Soundwave- No longer a cassette player
Megatron- No longer a gun
Perceptor- No longer a microscope
Shockwave- Probably wont be a gun

Ill also say the robot mode for the DOTM one was personally pretty sweet. Alt-mode was just a stupid rearrangin of partsinto something vaguely tanklike but whatever haha

Megatron is a gun in the classics line...

Well if we live past 2012 to see the release of classics 5.0, i'm sure Shockwave will be a gun.


Remember how Classics Megatron was based on a Nerf Marvrick?



Well good news, Nerf just released a new gun that looks decently Shockwave-esq.



Hopefully Hasbro notices the similarities and puts out shockwave. Well i don't see why Shockwave can't be a purple gun when Nerf has produced many blue guns. Seems legit!

ShardFenix wrote:Soundwave- No longer a cassette player

Damn kids woulnd't know what a cassetteplayer is.

ShardFenix wrote:Megatron- No longer a gun

ORLY?

ShardFenix wrote:Perceptor- No longer a microscope

Not really a playable alt. mode as it was.

ShardFenix wrote:Shockwave- Probably wont be a gun

I don't see why not.

I still wish they released the titanium one!

The G1 mold was and is very good. An upscaling of that with some added articulation and removal of the electronics and he'd be awesome. Same with an MP version, just in the opposite direction.

Just tell Hasbro to do this. It's not that difficult for them since they have the mold.

I for one wouldnt mind giving up the alt mode gun for a great classics scale bot mode for shocker. Infact for me I will only get him if he is to scale. If a voyager size would suffice, D.O.T.M. shocker is pretty sweet. Although him alt form is a bit lacking.
Back to the classics version, Id hope for something other than a tank. How about a ground mounted cannon? Ya know what I mean? A big ol cannon on a tri pod type deal.
They may be able to get that done while keeping to scale and then you will have a manned ground mounted cyber cannon to display and not just a pistol lying on a shelf.

I just want the bot mode to be G1ish. Apparently he is going to be a figure from the new game, so I am good with that. We probably won't get a Classics Shockwave. So I will make do with the game version, regardless of what his alt mode looks like.

SJ21 wrote:I just want the bot mode to be G1ish. Apparently he is going to be a figure from the new game, so I am good with that. We probably won't get a Classics Shockwave. So I will make do with the game version, regardless of what his alt mode looks like.

So he will be from the game? Is this official? If so, Id say we are in good shape.
I havnt seen the game shocker, but I have cyber O.P.,megs, B.B., cliff jumper and soundwave. All are excelend reinditions paying very close homage to the originals. I cant see them dropping the ball with shocker when they did so well with all of the other cyber versions.
As far as his alt mode, Im a bit sick of the tank but like you I am looking for an awesome bot mode. The alt mode is not so important for me with this figure.

decepta-scott wrote:So he will be from the game? Is this official? If so, Id say we are in good shape

This hasn't been made official yet but a reliable source mentioned this rumor earlier in this thread. I trust the source.

decepta-scott wrote:I havnt seen the game shocker, but I have cyber O.P.,megs, B.B., cliff jumper and soundwave. All are excelend reinditions paying very close homage to the originals. I cant see them dropping the ball with shocker when they did so well with all of the other cyber versions

Those figures were great as characters from the game. They looked just like the game. As Classics figures, not so much. Soundwave is great on the Classics shelf. Prime and Bumblebee just don't work for me. If Shockwave's bot mode looks as as good as Soundwave, I will buy it and be very happy.

You are right SJ21. I should have excluded cliff jumper and b.b. but primarily due to their size. Had they ben scaled down I think they would have worked alot better into a classics collection.
I still think they all look alot like their classic counterparts though and if shocker is done likewise we will be happy.

in the first game Shockwave transformed into a jet of sorts, it's Decepticon-y enough and I'm sure we'd be able to alter it to look like a big gun if we wanted that I think WFC Shockwave would be a fine stand-in for a Classics Shockwave.