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Only 5 arrests.

Thats not that great, seeing as how I'm looking at a buttload of TF movie torrents at a certain website I frequent.

Ah well, maybe they'll crack down a lot more on pirating movies. Then us pirates will have to resort to different methods to evolve the pirating process.

Good that they were caught. I don't approve of pirating at all. Go see it in a theater, there's no excuse.

1337W422102 wrote:No offense, but you're stupid enough to even want to WATCH a **** quality cam of any movie, the least you deserve is to get anally raped in jail.

How the hell is someone not meant to take offense from that?

I'm shocked at the drone like behaviour of some of the people in this threads. Just because something is declared illegal doesn't give you the right to consider the people involved on a par with hoodies who rob grannies.

I can't believe NOBODY has stated the obvious now - the pricks at Paramount decided to delay the movie over here in the UK for three painful weeks. Spare me your "Cry me a river!" bullshit, especially since anyone that says it has probably gotten to see the movie, there are no excuses for this.

This is a big reason why people are so willing to risk pirating it - so that their brothers in the UK and other countries can see it before it comes out.

I can't believe that not one of you considered that some people CAN'T see it on the big screen. Just shows how isolated and unaware Americans can be.

Spark Light wrote:

1337W422102 wrote:No offense, but you're stupid enough to even want to WATCH a **** quality cam of any movie, the least you deserve is to get anally raped in jail.

How the hell is someone not meant to take offense from that?

I'm shocked at the drone like behaviour of some of the people in this threads. Just because something is declared illegal doesn't give you the right to consider the people involved on a par with hoodies who rob grannies.

I can't believe NOBODY has stated the obvious now - the pricks at Paramount decided to delay the movie over here in the UK for three painful weeks. Spare me your "Cry me a river!" bullshit, especially since anyone that says it has probably gotten to see the movie, there are no excuses for this.

This is a big reason why people are so willing to risk pirating it - so that their brothers in the UK and other countries can see it before it comes out.

I can't believe that not one of you considered that some people CAN'T see it on the big screen. Just shows how isolated and unaware Americans can be.

Whereas I can agree with some of this sentiment, wouldn't that last sentence of yours... the one with the large, country-wide blanket statement, be as close-minded as the statements you're complaining about?

Spark Light wrote:

1337W422102 wrote:No offense, but you're stupid enough to even want to WATCH a **** quality cam of any movie, the least you deserve is to get anally raped in jail.

How the hell is someone not meant to take offense from that?

I'm shocked at the drone like behaviour of some of the people in this threads. Just because something is declared illegal doesn't give you the right to consider the people involved on a par with hoodies who rob grannies.

I can't believe NOBODY has stated the obvious now - the pricks at Paramount decided to delay the movie over here in the UK for three painful weeks. Spare me your "Cry me a river!" bullshit, especially since anyone that says it has probably gotten to see the movie, there are no excuses for this.

This is a big reason why people are so willing to risk pirating it - so that their brothers in the UK and other countries can see it before it comes out.

I can't believe that not one of you considered that some people CAN'T see it on the big screen. Just shows how isolated and unaware Americans can be.

You're joking right?

There is only 1 reason people go into theaters and pirate movies.

To make money from selling copies.

Nobody, out of the kindness of their heart, is going to go into a theater and make a cam-copy of a film to send to their "brothers" over in the UK, because they can't watch it.

However, people will give it to the pirating/torrent communities out there, not just for the people in the Uk, but for everyone. Not just those who don't get the movie yet, but for the entire pirating community.

Shame on them!

Don't mess with Transformers!

Spark Light wrote:

1337W422102 wrote:No offense, but you're stupid enough to even want to WATCH a **** quality cam of any movie, the least you deserve is to get anally raped in jail.

How the hell is someone not meant to take offense from that?

I'm shocked at the drone like behaviour of some of the people in this threads. Just because something is declared illegal doesn't give you the right to consider the people involved on a par with hoodies who rob grannies.

I can't believe NOBODY has stated the obvious now - the pricks at Paramount decided to delay the movie over here in the UK for three painful weeks. Spare me your "Cry me a river!" bullshit, especially since anyone that says it has probably gotten to see the movie, there are no excuses for this.

This is a big reason why people are so willing to risk pirating it - so that their brothers in the UK and other countries can see it before it comes out.

I can't believe that not one of you considered that some people CAN'T see it on the big screen. Just shows how isolated and unaware Americans can be.

This is my take on the entire thing.

Piracy is breaking the law, that's a given. Do these people deserve to be "raped in prison", not even close. These people are not kid touchers or murderers they are more than likely just kids or younger adults who think they can impress their friends with a pirated copy of the movie.

The vast majority of the cam releases on the Internet come from people who work at the theatres or know people who do. People are going to make poor choices but chances are if you took their camera away and fined them $500 they would never attempt to do it again.

North America needs to do what some other countries are doing. Release retail copies of the movies on DVD with excellent picture quality, 2 channel audio and no extras for $10 at theatrical launch. Then release the full DVD several months later.

Also the movie industry is full of sharks anyway, every DVD now has at least 2-3 different versions with different extras or extended scenes. They are screwing themselves by screwing us and honestly, they deserve a little bit of it.

Oh and anyone who can afford fast enough Internet access to download a 800MB-1.4GB DivX cam copy or a DVD5/9 copy can afford a $5-$10 movie ticket, easily.

Too late. It's been out since the first week. Sorry guys! I'm sure the arrests weren't of the ones who successfully pirated it July 4th.

Spark Light wrote:

1337W422102 wrote:No offense, but you're stupid enough to even want to WATCH a **** quality cam of any movie, the least you deserve is to get anally raped in jail.

How the hell is someone not meant to take offense from that?

I'm shocked at the drone like behaviour of some of the people in this threads. Just because something is declared illegal doesn't give you the right to consider the people involved on a par with hoodies who rob grannies.

I can't believe NOBODY has stated the obvious now - the pricks at Paramount decided to delay the movie over here in the UK for three painful weeks. Spare me your "Cry me a river!" bullshit, especially since anyone that says it has probably gotten to see the movie, there are no excuses for this.

This is a big reason why people are so willing to risk pirating it - so that their brothers in the UK and other countries can see it before it comes out.

I can't believe that not one of you considered that some people CAN'T see it on the big screen. Just shows how isolated and unaware Americans can be.

You misunderstand me. I'm not American. I couldn't care less about piracy. If it stops poopy movies from being made, hell, I'm for it.

What I don't support is unwatchable video and sound quality. If someone wanted to watch the movie without paying for it, that's their decision. I didn't pirate this movie, but sure's hell feel bad having had to pay to see it.

If they CAN'T see it on the big screen, then find the DVD rip (I'm not going into more detail due to that 'omg teh pyritz R teh 3vil' taboo) so you can at least have a version with watchable video and audio quality.

You're joking right?

There is only 1 reason people go into theaters and pirate movies.

To make money from selling copies.

Nobody, out of the kindness of their heart, is going to go into a theater and make a cam-copy of a film to send to their "brothers" over in the UK, because they can't watch it.

Then explain why most of these are available for free online, which you acknowledge down further? The reason Piracy is SO HIGH for this movie is that people in the UK and what not have gotten used to getting movies on time. And quite frankly, Paramount DESERVE to have their movie pirated for such a terrible decision. And for destroying Star Trek while we're at it.

Cam copies are rarely ever sold. Only DVD Pirates would bother.

Spark Light wrote:...And for destroying Star Trek while we're at it.

The woman captain from Star Trek Voyager is better than Kirk...

They have been VERY vigilent concerning Transformers. Personally I have seen it three times in the theater and have no desire to watch a bootleg. HOWEVER I know someone who is into torrentsu and has told me that ALL the available DL's around so far are total crap CAM jobs with people screaming and screens cropped. Usually a great copy or what they call "Telesync" of a new release is available just days after theatrical, but TF is on its 10th day and still bubkus.

Good for Paramount or whoever is responsible, TF NEEDS to be seen in a theater.

Who would want a cam shot movie? A dvd leak is so much better.

KSC wrote:They have been VERY vigilent concerning Transformers. Personally I have seen it three times in the theater and have no desire to watch a bootleg. HOWEVER I know someone who is into torrentsu and has told me that ALL the available DL's around so far are total crap CAM jobs with people screaming and screens cropped. Usually a great copy or what they call "Telesync" of a new release is available just days after theatrical, but TF is on its 10th day and still bubkus.

Good for Paramount or whoever is responsible, TF NEEDS to be seen in a theater.

Nevermind.

JTKranix wrote:

KSC wrote:They have been VERY vigilent concerning Transformers. Personally I have seen it three times in the theater and have no desire to watch a bootleg. HOWEVER I know someone who is into torrentsu and has told me that ALL the available DL's around so far are total crap CAM jobs with people screaming and screens cropped. Usually a great copy or what they call "Telesync" of a new release is available just days after theatrical, but TF is on its 10th day and still bubkus.

Good for Paramount or whoever is responsible, TF NEEDS to be seen in a theater.

Nevermind.

Well, if you were going to suggest it was me, that's fine. No offense taken you can only take me by my word.

I did wanna agree with you on the "other country" thing though. Russia has a HUGE pirating problem. They actually release dvds just a few weeks after the theatrical release. For two films called Night Watch/Day Watch they even made deals with bootleggers giving them LEGIT copies to sell on the streets

I know I've sent an email off to a Paramount rep with the web addresses to a couple of pirated versions of the movie... That's my stance on piracy, the only good pirate wears a peg leg & a hook for his hand! I've seen the movie only once, but plan to go see it again in the theater this weekend... I have no qualms paying money to watch a flick I have an interest in... If I don't want to see a movie that badly, I'll wait until a buddy of mine picks them up on DVD & watch it over at their place...

5 arrests in america isn't really that big of a blow against "the ebul pirates!" considering most Cam job pirate copies of new films don't come from America anyways.

Methusalen wrote:I know I've sent an email off to a Paramount rep with the web addresses to a couple of pirated versions of the movie... That's my stance on piracy, the only good pirate wears a peg leg & a hook for his hand! I've seen the movie only once, but plan to go see it again in the theater this weekend... I have no qualms paying money to watch a flick I have an interest in... If I don't want to see a movie that badly, I'll wait until a buddy of mine picks them up on DVD & watch it over at their place...

Nevermind again. I'm not going to start a war.

I have to laugh at people who record the film on their mobiles, picture quality would be horrible, and since everything in the movie moves so quickly, getting a still would be nigh impossible.

Since the DVD's are released so quick, what's the harm in waiting 3 months?

finally someone has been cought doing this if only they would catch poeple downoading piarcy music that would be a step up.

i_amtrunks wrote:Since the DVD's are released so quick, what's the harm in waiting 3 months?

Why wait 3 months when the DVD screener is most likely leaked on the web somewhere? You know how some people are.

dragons wrote:finally someone has been cought doing this if only they would catch poeple downoading piarcy music that would be a step up.

Caught FILMING it. You'd have to arrest 10% of the world to stop the DLing of it.

And stop neverminding JTK, speak your mind man.

theres already bootleg movies of TF. ive seen a bunch of them. but i dont want to buy it cause its better on theatre than on bootleg. i despise bootleggers

KSC wrote:

dragons wrote:finally someone has been cought doing this if only they would catch poeple downoading piarcy music that would be a step up.

Caught FILMING it. You'd have to arrest 10% of the world to stop the DLing of it.

And stop neverminding JTK, speak your mind man.

It would be more than 10%, it would easily be closer to 60-70%.

Piracy is wrong but it does promote industry advancement. Music and Video tapes turn into CD's and DVD's. CD's turn into audio files with DRM, DVD's turn into Blu-ray, HD-DVD and video files with DRM.

No one thinks of the big picture. Yeah, movie and music pirates are law breakers but how many people are pirates and do not even realize it? How many people have that copy of Windows or Microsoft Office that they didn't pay for? How many people still have copies of movies on VHS from HBO or Cinemax in the 80's tucked away in a closet someplace?

It's all piracy. It's all wrong but to what extent should these people be punished? "raped in prison" for what? Downloading pirated anti-virus to keep their computer from being compromised? "raped in prison" for pirating a copy of Microsoft Word so their kid can do school work?

The punishment should fit the crime.