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Postby Malikon » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:25 pm

I was impressed with him when I found out he cut 30 percent of his income to make sure that the film was made in the US with his own crew. I like that loyalty, that he wants to use his own people even if it comes out of his pocket directly.
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Postby i_amtrunks » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:52 pm

By heart he means money right?
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Postby Blozor » Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:50 pm

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Great, more humans.
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Postby Rushie » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:00 pm

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Blozor wrote:Great, more humans.

No, not 'more' humans. He said not to make things bigger. So there won't be more humans, just the same people with the TFs guest starring again ;)
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Postby D-340 » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:05 pm

Sounds like we're in for more humans, explosions, T&A, and not enough TFs, and zero character development for the Decepticons. Yippee. :roll:
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Re: Bay Briefly Talks Transformers 2

Postby Nemesis Cyberplex » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:06 pm

Toyotus Superion wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Robinson wrote:
E! Online caught up with Transformers director Michael Bay at Hollywood Film Festival's Hollywood Awards and asked about the sequel:

So, where do you go with it? How do you up the stakes?
It's not about upping it. It's about still keeping the heart.

Any new characters coming in?
Oh, yeah…a lot of fun stuff. I keep telling the writers, remember the heart and the magic, remember the heart and the magic. It's not about being bigger.

DreamWorks is targeting a June 26, 2009 release date for the follow-up.


See? He's not the ego driven monster that everyone has him pegged to be. It's a shame.

And I'm glad he said what he said...I think he finally gets it now.


Well, listening to the movie commentary, hes still ego driven. But I think he did right by us with the first movie and will do even better with the 2nd!
You know, I didn't get that version of the movie, but I was curious....is his commentary pretty much 2 hours of fan bashing? Because that's what I can imagine it to be.
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Postby First-Aid » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:23 pm

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D-340 wrote:Sounds like we're in for more humans, explosions, T&A, and not enough TFs, and zero character development for the Decepticons. Yippee. :roll:


Lack of character development was also a problem in the first X-Men movie. The problem is that there are so many characters to develop, logically there isn't enough time to develop them. introduce them and give you a basic idea of their character in the first movie, further develop the storyline and characters in the second, and introduce Unicron and Primus in the third one. ANyone else think a CGI space battle between Primus and Unicron would be awesome?
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First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.


Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Postby Robinson » Wed Oct 24, 2007 7:40 pm

Boy, some people sure do infer a lot of information from 3 little sentences that really don't say a whole lot.
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Postby RodimalToyota » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:08 pm

Cool, nice to see Bay atually getting the feeling of the story and the characters, instead of just how many explosions or camera spazzing he has to have.
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Postby D-340 » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:34 pm

First-Aid wrote:
D-340 wrote:Sounds like we're in for more humans, explosions, T&A, and not enough TFs, and zero character development for the Decepticons. Yippee. :roll:


Lack of character development was also a problem in the first X-Men movie. The problem is that there are so many characters to develop, logically there isn't enough time to develop them. introduce them and give you a basic idea of their character in the first movie, further develop the storyline and characters in the second, and introduce Unicron and Primus in the third one. ANyone else think a CGI space battle between Primus and Unicron would be awesome?


Ok, yeah you got a point. Maybe I'm just jumping the gun. The disappointment of all the bonus content on the DVD has got me all burnt up about Bay's handling of TFs.
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Postby SoooTrypticon » Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:44 pm

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Postby First-Aid » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:06 pm

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D-340 wrote:
First-Aid wrote:
D-340 wrote:Sounds like we're in for more humans, explosions, T&A, and not enough TFs, and zero character development for the Decepticons. Yippee. :roll:


Lack of character development was also a problem in the first X-Men movie. The problem is that there are so many characters to develop, logically there isn't enough time to develop them. introduce them and give you a basic idea of their character in the first movie, further develop the storyline and characters in the second, and introduce Unicron and Primus in the third one. ANyone else think a CGI space battle between Primus and Unicron would be awesome?


Ok, yeah you got a point. Maybe I'm just jumping the gun. The disappointment of all the bonus content on the DVD has got me all burnt up about Bay's handling of TFs.


I agree...the extra features on the DVD were really lame. We'll just let them make it up to us in the second movie.

BTW I have money on a resurrected Jazz in the sequel, thanks to a slowly regenerating AllSpark..:-P
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First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.


Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Postby General Magnus » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:46 pm

And the haters cried havok and let loose the dogs of complaining...
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Postby Burn » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:49 pm

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General Magnus wrote:And the haters cried havok and let loose the dogs of complaining...


And it's not scheduled for release for about 20 months.

I'll be biting my tongue a lot no doubt.
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Postby dabattousai » Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:56 pm

lodelco wrote:I'm all for keeping the magic and the heart but what is this about 'bigger'?

New Transformers, aircraft carrier and that rumour about Devestator...thats definitely big.


As much as I would love a Devestator, I don't think it's going to be that name seeing the DVD kept Brawl as Devestator and now everyone that isn't into the toys or keeps tabs on what's going on in the interwebs will be like "Why the hell is this guy named Devestator, that was the tank in the first one."
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Postby Nemesis Cyberplex » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:07 pm

General Magnus wrote:And the haters cried havok and let loose the dogs of complaining...
What, you can't like a movie & still complain about it?

This is the internet....it was built on complaints & porn....get over it.
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Postby First-Aid » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:15 pm

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Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:
General Magnus wrote:And the haters cried havok and let loose the dogs of complaining...
What, you can't like a movie & still complain about it?

This is the internet....it was built on complaints & porn....get over it.


True...but which of the two made the most impact? My money's on porn...
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TF-fan kev777 wrote:
First-Aid wrote:Okay, did anyone else notice that we all get a wonderful shot of Starscreams crotch anytime he sits in that throne? That's unnerving. Couldn't they have put n extra flap in there? It's....weird.


Its kind of like Basic Instinct, but not in a good way...


Goddammit, now I can't unsee it.
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Postby Nemesis Cyberplex » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:35 pm

First-Aid wrote:
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:
General Magnus wrote:And the haters cried havok and let loose the dogs of complaining...
What, you can't like a movie & still complain about it?

This is the internet....it was built on complaints & porn....get over it.


True...but which of the two made the most impact? My money's on porn...
Well, there was Cullen getting into the movie....oh & Megatron....lots of things happened with him due to complaining....he got a better head for starters....not to mention even though Frank Welker wasn't Megs in the movie, he's been Megs for pretty much all other movie-related stuff such as the game & the prequel video that came with the movie.

I'm not saying complaining is always good, but in a lot of cases if there's enough of an outcry, people that care will hear it & at least take it into consideration when making a decision to go with one idea or another.
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Postby iopele » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:35 pm

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Postby TheDawg » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:37 pm

So he's talked the talk, but can he walk the walk? :-?

Like Robinson said, I wouldn't make too many assumptions on a 5-second interview. This is just the beginning. Who knows what else is gonna come.
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Postby Leonardo » Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:38 am

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:
General Magnus wrote:And the haters cried havok and let loose the dogs of complaining...
What, you can't like a movie & still complain about it?


That's true. Being able to see the positive and negative in both things we like and things we dislike is a good thing.

We do complain an awful lot, though!
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Re: Bay Briefly Talks Transformers 2

Postby Toyotus Superion » Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:33 am

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Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:
Toyotus Superion wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Robinson wrote:
E! Online caught up with Transformers director Michael Bay at Hollywood Film Festival's Hollywood Awards and asked about the sequel:

So, where do you go with it? How do you up the stakes?
It's not about upping it. It's about still keeping the heart.

Any new characters coming in?
Oh, yeah…a lot of fun stuff. I keep telling the writers, remember the heart and the magic, remember the heart and the magic. It's not about being bigger.

DreamWorks is targeting a June 26, 2009 release date for the follow-up.


See? He's not the ego driven monster that everyone has him pegged to be. It's a shame.

And I'm glad he said what he said...I think he finally gets it now.


Well, listening to the movie commentary, hes still ego driven. But I think he did right by us with the first movie and will do even better with the 2nd!
You know, I didn't get that version of the movie, but I was curious....is his commentary pretty much 2 hours of fan bashing? Because that's what I can imagine it to be.


No way! He admitted alot that the fans were right on alot of stuff.
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Re: Bay Briefly Talks Transformers 2

Postby Nemesis Cyberplex » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:37 am

Toyotus Superion wrote:
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:
Toyotus Superion wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Robinson wrote:
E! Online caught up with Transformers director Michael Bay at Hollywood Film Festival's Hollywood Awards and asked about the sequel:

So, where do you go with it? How do you up the stakes?
It's not about upping it. It's about still keeping the heart.

Any new characters coming in?
Oh, yeah…a lot of fun stuff. I keep telling the writers, remember the heart and the magic, remember the heart and the magic. It's not about being bigger.

DreamWorks is targeting a June 26, 2009 release date for the follow-up.


See? He's not the ego driven monster that everyone has him pegged to be. It's a shame.

And I'm glad he said what he said...I think he finally gets it now.


Well, listening to the movie commentary, hes still ego driven. But I think he did right by us with the first movie and will do even better with the 2nd!
You know, I didn't get that version of the movie, but I was curious....is his commentary pretty much 2 hours of fan bashing? Because that's what I can imagine it to be.


No way! He admitted alot that the fans were right on alot of stuff.
Really? wow. That might be worth getting someday then. I ended up getting the version that had the prequel movie, & it only came with the standard version. Does anybody know if the commentary is on the HD-DVD version?
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Re: Bay Briefly Talks Transformers 2

Postby Toyotus Superion » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:42 am

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Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:
Toyotus Superion wrote:
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:
Toyotus Superion wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Robinson wrote:
E! Online caught up with Transformers director Michael Bay at Hollywood Film Festival's Hollywood Awards and asked about the sequel:

So, where do you go with it? How do you up the stakes?
It's not about upping it. It's about still keeping the heart.

Any new characters coming in?
Oh, yeah…a lot of fun stuff. I keep telling the writers, remember the heart and the magic, remember the heart and the magic. It's not about being bigger.

DreamWorks is targeting a June 26, 2009 release date for the follow-up.


See? He's not the ego driven monster that everyone has him pegged to be. It's a shame.

And I'm glad he said what he said...I think he finally gets it now.


Well, listening to the movie commentary, hes still ego driven. But I think he did right by us with the first movie and will do even better with the 2nd!
You know, I didn't get that version of the movie, but I was curious....is his commentary pretty much 2 hours of fan bashing? Because that's what I can imagine it to be.


No way! He admitted alot that the fans were right on alot of stuff.
Really? wow. That might be worth getting someday then. I ended up getting the version that had the prequel movie, & it only came with the standard version. Does anybody know if the commentary is on the HD-DVD version?


I bought the walmart version too, but when i opened it and saw the regular edition movie, i returned the movie and kept the prequal box part lol. Then I bought the target special edition one. Yeah, the HD one does have the commentary.
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Re: Bay Briefly Talks Transformers 2

Postby Nemesis Cyberplex » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:46 am

Toyotus Superion wrote:
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:
Toyotus Superion wrote:
Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:
Toyotus Superion wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:
Robinson wrote:
E! Online caught up with Transformers director Michael Bay at Hollywood Film Festival's Hollywood Awards and asked about the sequel:

So, where do you go with it? How do you up the stakes?
It's not about upping it. It's about still keeping the heart.

Any new characters coming in?
Oh, yeah…a lot of fun stuff. I keep telling the writers, remember the heart and the magic, remember the heart and the magic. It's not about being bigger.

DreamWorks is targeting a June 26, 2009 release date for the follow-up.


See? He's not the ego driven monster that everyone has him pegged to be. It's a shame.

And I'm glad he said what he said...I think he finally gets it now.


Well, listening to the movie commentary, hes still ego driven. But I think he did right by us with the first movie and will do even better with the 2nd!
You know, I didn't get that version of the movie, but I was curious....is his commentary pretty much 2 hours of fan bashing? Because that's what I can imagine it to be.


No way! He admitted alot that the fans were right on alot of stuff.
Really? wow. That might be worth getting someday then. I ended up getting the version that had the prequel movie, & it only came with the standard version. Does anybody know if the commentary is on the HD-DVD version?


I bought the walmart version too, but when i opened it and saw the regular edition movie, i returned the movie and kept the prequal box part lol. Then I bought the target special edition one. Yeah, the HD one does have the commentary.
Oh good. I was planning on getting that with an HD-dvd upgrade for my 360 for christmas....If I can scrape the funds together to do that....
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