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im con all the way here

Galvatron Prime wrote:

celestial wrote:dunno if i would be getting a welcome back hug from the decepticons or not..

Well considering how you left the Cons the first time, it may be a bit...touchy. I thought you were happy being a Bot

thats what i thought aswell but lately i have feelt unhappy as bot now and days and also felt darkness within me.
i done personalaty test and i got same results.

Optimus Frimal wrote:

celestial wrote:dunno if i would be getting a welcome back hug from the decepticons or not..

Hey, we're Decepticons, you could kill every single one of us, dance on our graves, resurrect us only to torture us for a thousand years, kill us again and then cremate us and scatter our ashes somewhere really horrid and we'd still forgive you, just as long as you are good at your job. You are good at your job, right?

well not close enough doing at my job.. i still not been able to kick down thecollector i fail everytime hes stronger than me.
even yet i hear his calling come and join me to the decepticon side in my dreams all the time its like a beacon.

Burn wrote:

Dreadwind wrote:Currently, and honestly, undecided about switching sides again.

You may as well switch. Judging by this thread it looks like 2/3 of the game are going to end up being Decepticons.

sigh....so we can expect the "not-enough-competition" cries in about 6 months after the reset....

devast8or wrote:

Burn wrote:

Dreadwind wrote:Currently, and honestly, undecided about switching sides again.

You may as well switch. Judging by this thread it looks like 2/3 of the game are going to end up being Decepticons.

sigh....so we can expect the "not-enough-competition" cries in about 6 months after the reset....

So what would be an acceptable way to allow players to change factions AFTER the reset? This may be important to discuss considering there will be 4 factions.

that their Team's average level is actually outnumbered, we don't want people switching FROM the outnumbered side after all?

Tammuz wrote:that their Team's average level is actually outnumbered, we don't want people switching FROM the outnumbered side after all?

Won't that be a moot point after the reset?

Well, I'm staying with the light side, it's just a tossup whether it'll be Autobot or Maximal.

It's slightly annoying how many players are switching Con. Like Devas8or asked, isn't anyone planning on switching to Bot? The game is going to be boring as hell for both sides if like the large majority of the most vocal players in the forums all lump onto one side.

OS, I've got a question for you, if you're willing to answer... What is going to be the difference between Maximal and Autobot, and Predacon and Decepticon? Different missions? Different Alt modes? Different bot modes? Will the Maximals and Autobots work together in missions against the Decepticons and Predacons? Or will all four be viewed as being in competition with each other for territory? I think it's relevent to any discussion on side switching between them.

Without that information, my feeling at the moment is that it should be easier than it is now, but there definitely needs to be limits to keep people from switching back and forth constantly. Maybe there could be the option to do so, but only like once every three or six months.

Edit: And Tammuz's idea is great, if it could be implemented. It would definitely be helpful if we could make sure the flow of players is always going to whatever side is outnumbered.

Galvatron Prime wrote:

Tammuz wrote:that their Team's average level is actually outnumbered, we don't want people switching FROM the outnumbered side after all?

Won't that be a moot point after the reset?

i think in the long term GP,the current trend in faction demographics will continue, so i have to look past the immediate situation and into the future, and prepare for it.

Deadboy wrote:Well, I'm staying with the light side, it's just a tossup whether it'll be Autobot or Maximal.

It's slightly annoying how many players are switching Con. Like Devas8or asked, isn't anyone planning on switching to Bot? The game is going to be boring as hell for both sides if like the large majority of the most vocal players in the forums all lump onto one side.

OS, I've got a question for you, if you're willing to answer... What is going to be the difference between Maximal and Autobot, and Predacon and Decepticon? Different missions? Different Alt modes? Different bot modes? Will the Maximals and Autobots work together in missions against the Decepticons and Predacons? Or will all four be viewed as being in competition with each other for territory? I think it's relevent to any discussion on side switching between them.

Without that information, my feeling at the moment is that it should be easier than it is now, but there definitely needs to be limits to keep people from switching back and forth constantly. Maybe there could be the option to do so, but only like once every three or six months.

Edit: And Tammuz's idea is great, if it could be implemented. It would definitely be helpful if we could make sure the flow of players is always going to whatever side is outnumbered.

i have a question or so to add ...
will it be possible for individual members of our teams to be on different (sub)Factions ..ie/ say one character is a Decepticon and another to be a Predacon ?

From HMW V2 FAQ:
- Only the whole team can switch side
- There will be special missions that separate decepticons from predacons, and autobots from maximals

I think that limiting the number of side switches could be good, and as an extra, the switcher not be able to bring his alt. modes to the other side (or there's no point to have four sides).

Nemesis Prime wrote:i have a question or so to add ...
will it be possible for individual members of our teams to be on different (sub)Factions ..ie/ say one character is a Decepticon and another to be a Predacon ?

Nope

Omega Sentinel wrote:
Your team can only be Predacon OR Decepticon. There will be specific missions for each faction but there will be 4 SEPERATE, COMPLETE FACTIONS. You cannot have a faction within a faction mixing autobot and maximal team members.

I'll explain the purpose behind this in the next couple of weeks, but just know that there will be 4 factions in HMW2 instead of just 2.

Deadboy wrote:OS, I've got a question for you, if you're willing to answer...

Well....OK

Deadboy wrote:What is going to be the difference between Maximal and Autobot, and Predacon and Decepticon?

Quite a bit. It is a seperate faction.

Deadboy wrote: Different missions?

Yep

Deadboy wrote: Different Alt modes?

Yep

Deadboy wrote: Different bot modes?

Yep

Deadboy wrote: Will the Maximals and Autobots work together in missions against the Decepticons and Predacons?

Yep

Deadboy wrote: Or will all four be viewed as being in competition with each other for territory?

Programmatically possible but still hashing out the ifs and hows on that one.

I have always been and I always will be an Autobot!!

As long as all four aren't each holding their own territory, than it should be easy (or at least easier) to switch back and forth between the allied factions, IMHO, but difficult to switch to the opposing factions. I almost think players should be able to switch Autobot/Maximal and Decepticon/Predacon on a whim, if that's the case. Switching good to evil or evil to good, definitely needs to be controlled in how often and by who is being outnumbered at what levels.

If you do institute them all having their own territory, then the two good teams and two evil teams become in competition with each other, and it shouldn't be any easier to switch Autobot to Maximal than it is good to evil.

It makes since to let ppl choose their faction when the reset first happens. My question, tho, is what will cost to do it after the fact? or will it cost anything? will alt modes be tranferable? Although the alt mode thing is a question for even a Pred to Con/Maximal to Bot switch.

Galvatron Prime wrote:It makes since to let ppl choose their faction when the reset first happens. My question, tho, is what will cost to do it after the fact? or will it cost anything?

Good questions. We need to hash this out.

Galvatron Prime wrote:will alt modes be tranferable? Although the alt mode thing is a question for even a Pred to Con/Maximal to Bot switch.

No. Alot of alt modes will be faction specific. When you switch factions your bots will revert to a protoform and you will need to re-select an alt mode. Small price to pay for a faction hop.

How about if you switch at the start of v.2 and then later on you want to switch back to your original side it'll cost say....... 50,000 Energon or more to switch back?

Blackmoon wrote:How about if you switch at the start of v.2 and then later on you want to switch back to your original side it'll cost say....... 50,000 Energon or more to switch back?

not stiff enough consequence

however, at some point, we'll have to address the inevitable need to switch as players from each faction will increase/decrease over time, thus precipitating the vicious cycle. would be wise to address how it's handled (as it's been suggested) now before we dish out some unfair treatment later--this way, all players know what's required for the switch.

Blackmoon wrote:How about if you switch at the start of v.2 and then later on you want to switch back to your original side it'll cost say....... 50,000 Energon or more to switch back?

i think a percentage charge would be more effective.

Tammuz wrote:

Blackmoon wrote:How about if you switch at the start of v.2 and then later on you want to switch back to your original side it'll cost say....... 50,000 Energon or more to switch back?

i think a percentage charge would be more effective.

I also think it should be only for con to pred. bot to maximal and vise versa. Switching form con/pred to bot/maximal should be very limited and only through OS's aproval

I've already stated this before, I am going Predacon.

But I was wondering something.

Are Preds/Maxis only going to have animal alts?

Now theres a bit of news of V2 that got my interest even more. No longer undecided on my choice, going Maximal for this new war.

Symbiote Spiderman14 wrote:

Tammuz wrote:

Blackmoon wrote:How about if you switch at the start of v.2 and then later on you want to switch back to your original side it'll cost say....... 50,000 Energon or more to switch back?

i think a percentage charge would be more effective.

I also think it should be only for con to pred. bot to maximal and vise versa. Switching form con/pred to bot/maximal should be very limited and only through OS's aproval

Well you should be able to go from Maximal to Autobot or Pred to Con without penalty. I mean you are still fighting on the same side, so to speak. I think a "fine" should have to be paid in order to switch from Good to evil or evil to good after the initial reset is done.

I'm a little uneasy about people just being able to switch from good to evil or vice versa just like that. What if one side has the upper hand in this new 'Risk' style format and people swap sides just to jump on the band wagon of the winning faction. That could make the game even more lop sided imo.

I think to an extent the current system should be maintained, though switches should be allowed at the mods or OS's discretion to maintain the balance of all sides within the game.