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just because a movie has alot of effects doesnt mean it should win anything, especially when the cg isnt even that great. They CGI in DOTM wasnt bad but it wasnt great either. when you see cg in the movie you know its cg cause it looks like cg, great cg should look like its a real life prop on the set not like it was added in later. It would be one thing if they did something nwe bit they didnt, the effects looked the same as the first movie. Out of all the movies there either planet of the apes or harry potter should've won, not a fan of either movie but the effects were awesome. but as we all know its the oscars so the things that should win never do.

-_- true talent ignored again.

And so the onslaught of fan boys begins...

"Oscars are bullshit WAH!"
"Oscars are fixed WAH!"
"Nobody cares about Oscars anyway WAH!"

Sorry guys, Hugo was extremely well received. DOTM was not. Everyone knew it had no chance of winning.

This is what you will get in the oscars with those aged 70+ judges

Starscream GaGa wrote:And so the onslaught of fan boys begins...

"Oscars are bullshit WAH!"
"Oscars are fixed WAH!"
"Nobody cares about Oscars anyway WAH!"

Sorry guys, Hugo was extremely well received. DOTM was not. Everyone knew it had no chance of winning.

Everyone exept me.

When TF lost to the f@!king pooh-hole bear in Oscar Visual Effects 2007, I know that TF would never receive any prize in Oscar.

RhA wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:How come the oscars are bullshit? They probably saw all the special effects and were like, woo... crazy i guess... well, from what I actually made out from all the craziness... And then they forget about it, coz it leaves no lasting impression.
Its not just about how crazy the visuals are, its about how effectively they are applied. I don't really care about the oscars, but if thats how they were rating special effects, I completely agree.

The oscars are bullshit because it's a circle jerk.

Yep, it's Hollywood loving on Hollywood. And in that world, Martin Scorsese beats out Michael Bay every time.

DevastaTTor wrote:

RhA wrote:

MINDVVIPE wrote:How come the oscars are bullshit? They probably saw all the special effects and were like, woo... crazy i guess... well, from what I actually made out from all the craziness... And then they forget about it, coz it leaves no lasting impression.
Its not just about how crazy the visuals are, its about how effectively they are applied. I don't really care about the oscars, but if thats how they were rating special effects, I completely agree.

The oscars are bullshit because it's a circle jerk.

Yep, it's Hollywood loving on Hollywood. And in that world, Martin Scorsese beats out Michael Bay every time.

Hollywood hates Michael Bay, but loves the money he brings in. Haha.

wow not to sound negative i knew we wouldnt get anything but hugo did clean sweep those award shows always seem to be rigged to me fans who vote for winners are ones i watch , mtv, teen choice.

really hugo didnt make that much money at boxoffice to some of films that it was up against at boxoffice

People the awards are NOT about how much they got in box office!

Starscream GaGa wrote:People the awards are NOT about how much they got in box office!

We know, it's about old farts giving themselves awards and somehow they've convinced everyone those awards are the most important. The movies that win these awards were only made to win awards. Like RhA said, circle jerk. I quit caring about the Oscars a long time ago because of that, this is yet another nail in that coffin.

The categories DoTM was nominated for are what I like to refer to as the 'Window dressing awards'. They're categories worth having to recognise the production teams' achievements, but whether they're good or bad they'll never make or break a movie.

I know people wanted DoTM to win something but realistically it was never going to happen. You're always going to get different winners depending on how they're chosen i.e. fans, judges, or members of the industry. Some people may call that 'rigged', but its simply different groups with different standards. The Oscars are probably the most pretigious of the movie awards. To let a movie like DoTM or Rise of The Planet of The Apes beat something like Hugo or War Horse would be like saying an X-Factor tune is better than Mozart or Pink Floyd.

Bottom line: who gives a sh!t about awards ceremonies?

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Starscream GaGa wrote:People the awards are NOT about how much they got in box office!

We know, it's about old farts giving themselves awards and somehow they've convinced everyone those awards are the most important. The movies that win these awards were only made to win awards. Like RhA said, circle jerk. I quit caring about the Oscars a long time ago because of that, this is yet another nail in that coffin.

If you didn't care you wouldn't be posting here.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:The movies that win these awards were only made to win awards.

And the Transformers movies were only made to make money, so what exactly qualifies as a good movie? That is a question that can only be answered by your own opinion and applies only to you.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:I quit caring about the Oscars a long time ago because of that, this is yet another nail in that coffin.

And if Transformers had won an Oscar you'd be saying that the Oscars had finally changed their ways and started to improve. Let's be honest, there's going to be quite a bit of bias floating around no matter which side of the fence you come down on. I could argue that if it wasn't for the Oscars then movies like The King's Speech, A Beautiful Mind or Gandhi would never win an award.

Megatron Wolf wrote:just because a movie has alot of effects doesnt mean it should win anything, especially when the cg isnt even that great. They CGI in DOTM wasnt bad but it wasnt great either. when you see cg in the movie you know its cg cause it looks like cg, great cg should look like its a real life prop on the set not like it was added in later. It would be one thing if they did something nwe bit they didnt, the effects looked the same as the first movie. Out of all the movies there either planet of the apes or harry potter should've won, not a fan of either movie but the effects were awesome. but as we all know its the oscars so the things that should win never do.

Agreed, some of the cg in DOTM was great, but other parts just looked bad. I haven't seem Hugo, Apes or HP, but I thought the cg in Real Steel was really good and better, as a whole, than DOTM.

Awwwwww...how sad. Well don't worry. Maybe TF3 can still win some Razzie-awards.

To be honest I think Transformers movies are not oscars material.

Actually, the only thing I can rescue from the movies are the redesigns of the characters which I like the most.
I didn't even bought all the characters toys, I just pick the ones I thought were the best executed.

I only watched transformers on the theater once each, and I haven't been interested on watch them again, not even on cable.

Transformers Prime is a much better show. I have watched the entire first season twice, while I wait for the second.
You don't need to dinamite every single pixel on screen or to make a close up of some blonde ass to make something
that people will want to watch over and over.

I don't hate transformers movies, I liked them while I was on the theater.
But they have a flavor that don't last enough.

Starscream GaGa wrote:People the awards are NOT about how much they got in box office!

I agree and in the categories TF3 was nominated, it's still about how sound or effects assist to tell the story. With all the TF films, story took a back seat to great, in-your-face effects.

TF3 was probably the most technically advanced film of the year. I think we can all agree on that. But the better story always wins the day in Hollywood, especially when awards season roles around.

Eh, not surprised. Hugo was obviously going to be the "movie that no one heard of that won all the awards" since we first heard the nominations.

It's not like DotM's billions earned, upcoming sequel, theme park ride, and toys are in any way tarnished.

Seriously, did anyone really think that DOTM would win?

I'm more interested in the comedy awards anyway, at least those are mostly funny.

MINDVVIPE wrote:HAH, all that work and it loses to a movie thats much more story driven.

And you'd be kidding yourself if you think if Transformers was more story driven than it was (like the movie or not, it did have a story) that it would have had a chance against movies like HUGO.
The Academy awards are not for movies like TF. Heck, IMO, Planet of the Apes proabably should have won, but we all know it never had a chance either.

Starscream GaGa wrote:And so the onslaught of fan boys begins...

"Oscars are bullshit WAH!"
"Oscars are fixed WAH!"
"Nobody cares about Oscars anyway WAH!"

Sorry guys, Hugo was extremely well received. DOTM was not. Everyone knew it had no chance of winning.

And if they did win all three, or even one award all the haters would be saying the exact same thing.
"The Oscars suck anyhow WAH!"
"The story still sucked WAH!"
Ah man. Now Micheal Bay's ego is going to be bigger than ever and we'll never get a propper TF movieWAH, WAH, WAH!!!"
..And so on and so. Its a double edge sword really.

Seibertron wrote:Transformers Dark of the Moon lost to Hugo for Sound Editing.

And it lost again to Huge for Sound Mixing

I wonder if was like that just because Michael Bay is the director.

5150 Cruiser wrote: And if they did win all three, or even one award all the haters would be saying the exact same thing.
"The Oscars suck anyhow WAH!"
"The story still sucked WAH!"
Ah man. Now Micheal Bay's ego is going to be bigger than ever and we'll never get a propper TF movieWAH, WAH, WAH!!!"
..And so on and so. Its a double edge sword really.

I agree.

I never even heard of this damn movie. The worst movies always win at the Oscars. That's why I didn't give a damn about it in the first place.

How could DotM lose all three awards to Hugo? There weren't even any good effects in Hugo! There weren't any good sounds either. Hugo was all-around average. DotM should have won at least the special effects awards.

SlyTF1 wrote:I never even heard of this damn movie.

Well, that is just your problem I guess.

BTW; many of you who have posted critical comments here were most likely exited to hear about TF3 getting nominated some months ago, but now suddenly oscars are just a joke, bullshit, rigged etc. Funny how it always goes. Then again, should TF3 had won something, would you still consider oscars being a joke, bs and so on. Obviously yes, for that's what you are saying here.

The worst movies always win at the Oscars

See. Isn't that just great that TF didn't win anything? Thank god for that... So why are you so upset ?