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News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:30 am

...Or maybe they're just premier editions, or versions, of characters, when compared to the rest of the line that would have simpler transformations, like One-Steps and Power Battlers... :-?

Compare with the Generations-like Prime First Edition vs. the simpler and gimmicky Prime RiD.

News Credits: 11 · by **RAR** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:22 am

Kurona wrote:So basically... wait for the Recon version?

He couldn't stop a pig in a passage.

News Credits: 1642 · by **D-Maximal_Primal** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:10 pm

Thanks to the Transformers Peru Facebook page, we have some new images of the upcoming Premier Edition Voyager class Grimlock! Grimlock is a new gray and silver deco of his Voyager Age of Extinction figure, and can be seen in-box here. Also included are some shots of Bumblebee and Berserker, and if one looks closely, they will see Slash pictures on Bumblebee's box. Check out the images below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!

News Credits: 419 · by **Bronzewolf** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:34 pm

Not to mention Two-step mega Bumblebee and Legend/legion Bumblebee

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:20 pm

That would be the DotM Cyberverse Legion Class Bumblebee, if I'm not mistaken. So in short with a penchant for drawing conclusions, half of the line will be redecos: 2 out of the 4 Deluxes, and 1 out of 2 Voyagers. :lol:

by **MGrotusque** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:45 pm

Decepticon Berserker??? Now that sounds interesting.

News Credits: 11 · by **RAR** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:02 pm

MGrotusque wrote:Decepticon Berserker??? Now that sounds interesting.

Skip back a few pages and you will see more pics of that toy and of Barricade and others too.

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Slash seems like a nice enough deco.

As I have said before what I'd like to see is the toys that were missing from the previous boxed sets to be made in the appropriate colours to fill in some of those gaps. So that would be things like a G1 deco Slash and Scorn for example.

If you go pocking about on the internet you can see the pre-production art for Slash and they provide a number of colour options since at one point there was going to be multiple Slash dinos as minions of Scorn if each was a slightly different deco that would have been nice to see.

$20.00 is a bit to expensive to make so many frivolous repaints though.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:37 pm

RAR wrote:$20.00 is a bit to expensive to make so many frivolous repaints though.

Especially as there's nothing premium about them, this way you just pay top-dollar to get hideously un(/under)painted figures sooner :HEADHURTS:

News Credits: 61 · by **EvasionModeBumblebee** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:46 pm

Even the box art for that Bumblebee isn't based on his new mode, it's a straight copy of his DOTM form. Perhaps that'll be his mode early in the movie? :-?

My hope may be restored for a better Bumblebee figure down the road

News Credits: 419 · by **Bronzewolf** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:25 pm

Yeah, the whole "Hey, Bumblebee is old again" thing still confuses me. Does he like his old mode more or something? Since this is all about the "Knights" of Cybertron, why wouldn't he keep his more sleek, knight-like mode?

Unless that's exactly what it is! They want to subliminally define who's a knight and who's not by their robot mode, therefore, so as not to get people confused, they took Bumblebee back to his old look so he's not sleek and knight-like!

This concludes my conversation with myself.

News Credits: 42 · by **TF-fan kev777** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:29 pm

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:
My hope may be restored for a better Bumblebee figure down the road

There will always be hope for a better (or at least another) Bumblebee figure down the road. In every TF line. Forever. :-D

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:32 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:...Or maybe they're just premier editions, or versions, of characters, when compared to the rest of the line that would have simpler transformations, like One-Steps and Power Battlers... Compare with the Generations-like Prime First Edition vs. the simpler and gimmicky Prime RiD.

Thats exactly what it is. This picture pretty much sells it:

Notice how there are other Last Knight toys, at the same development stage (finished and ready to ship) and yet they dont have that logo. The only ones with them are the deluxes, voyagers and Leader (Optimus) which were branded as Generations toys in AOE as to distinguish them from the other products for a different age group. Well since they dont want to interupt the generations line this time (as Hasbro stated in an interview), both lines will run concurrently and thus this is just a different name to distinguish these movie figures intended for an "older" audience from both the other generations line and the more kiddie toys. And the word they chose is Premier which is a play on words on the fact that its movie related (premiere) and in a similar vein to the first edition toys of before. The higher price is, as Va'al said, purely capitalism hidden in the shape of a nice box.

One thing to Zelze though, I didnt find most RID Prime toys t be gimicky, many were in the same vein as the first editions, like Wheeljack for instance. And their Optimus and Megatron were as complex as their first edition counterparts. Plus there is no denying which Vehicon toy is better

Overcracker wrote:I would wager its going to be similar to what they did with the Premium Edition figures for the 2007 Movie Line. Where certain main line figures got "premium" paint jobs.

Pretty sure you would lose that bet. There is nothing of these that indicate they are anything close to those aside from a misinterpreted word. These are coming first in the line (unlike the ones you mentioned) and they are coming as part of the standard retail line unveiled already, they are also a mix of new molds and older ones (again, unlike the idea of only being premium versions of existing molds) and lastly these arent in any way premier paint jobs, especially when you compare this bumblebee to the original. The only thing this has in common with the premium line is 5 letters.

In the end, there is 0 evidence at all that this is anything else than just your standard movie line. Toyfair may finally give us more evidence against that but for now there is none.

RAR wrote:Slash seems like a nice enough deco.

And the famous 2016/2017 retrojip continues!

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:35 pm

william-james88 wrote:
RAR wrote:Slash seems like a nice enough deco.

And the famous 2016/2017 retrojip continues!

I hadn't even noticed that! That does look nice, I like the color combo, will half to see better pics of him :-?

News Credits: 419 · by **Bronzewolf** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:38 pm

Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
RAR wrote:Slash seems like a nice enough deco.

And the famous 2016/2017 retrojip continues!

I hadn't even noticed that! That does look nice, I like the color combo, will half to see better pics of him

Retrojip?

Also, yeah, Slash looks pretty cool. I missed him the first time around, so i'm super interested in picking him up now.

News Credits: 174 · by **Hellscream9999** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:49 pm

Bronzewolf wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
RAR wrote:Slash seems like a nice enough deco.

And the famous 2016/2017 retrojip continues!

I hadn't even noticed that! That does look nice, I like the color combo, will half to see better pics of him

Retrojip?

Also, yeah, Slash looks pretty cool. I missed him the first time around, so i'm super interested in picking him up now.

Yeah, shame about the weird thigh-leg ratios and the monkey arms, beast mode looks epic though 8-)

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:29 pm

Bronzewolf wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
RAR wrote:Slash seems like a nice enough deco.

And the famous 2016/2017 retrojip continues!

I hadn't even noticed that! That does look nice, I like the color combo, will half to see better pics of him

Retrojip?

It means feeling retroactively cheated when you realize that a later release of a figure offers more or something better than the one they first gave you.

Like how this

was revealed after this guy came out

Or how these two were priced the same with the one with way more accessories came out later:

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:53 am

NIce silver Grimlock with red eyes. That voyager mold is one of my all time faves so I may be tempted to replace my AoE one with this updated deco.

by **frogbat** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:43 am

I'm glad I'm not a kid interested in transformers... cos if I were, all these many lines would confuse me

Nice packaging... seems more compact or am I mistakenly as I can't recall the previous packaging?

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 4:37 am

william-james88 wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
RAR wrote:Slash seems like a nice enough deco.

And the famous 2016/2017 retrojip continues!

I hadn't even noticed that! That does look nice, I like the color combo, will half to see better pics of him

Retrojip?

It means feeling retroactively cheated when you realize that a later release of a figure offers more or something better than the one they first gave you.

Like how this

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was revealed after this guy came out

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Or how these two were priced the same with the one with way more accessories came out later:

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Eh, that's not really the same thing. In Slash's case, sure, the new figure will probably be a better fit with the G1 style repaints in the grays and silver colors and make him more appealing, but for the other examples they're representative of different versions of the same character. If what you want is a regular blue and red Prime you aren't going to get that from the Minicon and Power Serge versions no matter how many new things they come from. It's not like the original G2 Optimus Prime made '84 Optimus Prime no longer desirable thanks to all the extra stuff. Personally I'd take TAV-21 over the remold any day. As far as those deluxe figures go, I think of it more like the Power Serge remold came with extra stuff, not as the original came with less since it comes with the same number of accessories as pretty much all of the other figures in the line.

Emerje

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:02 am

A vietnamese seller on facebook has the recently revealed Slash and Grimlock figures from The Transformers: Last Knight for sale, but it is a private account. TFW user Saito Satoru has access and posted the images found there. You can see both of them in their more screen accurate grey/silver decos below.

Any of you feel like double dipping?

by **LE0KING** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:12 am

I never bought the original slash because I didn't like the colors. So I may get this.

by **Microraptor** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:13 am

Loving the blue metallics on Slash.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:15 am

LE0KING wrote:I never bought the original slash because I didn't like the colors. So I may get this.

Your so damn lucky. I also think this looks great, but the fact that I already bought the previous one makes me really ticked off that I have to buy the same toy again just to get a decent deco. You wont have to live with the guilt of noe having wasted money, you get the good stuff straight away

by **LE0KING** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:18 am

william-james88 wrote:
LE0KING wrote:I never bought the original slash because I didn't like the colors. So I may get this.

Your so damn lucky. I also think this looks great, but the fact that I already bought the previous one makes me really ticked off that I have to buy the same toy again just to get a decent deco. You wont have to live with the guilt of noe having wasted money, you get the good stuff straight away

In my experience when I have to buy two versions of the same mold I just slap a purple autobot logo on the ugliest version And put it with the sg's.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Thu Feb 09, 2017 10:19 am

LE0KING wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
LE0KING wrote:I never bought the original slash because I didn't like the colors. So I may get this.

Your so damn lucky. I also think this looks great, but the fact that I already bought the previous one makes me really ticked off that I have to buy the same toy again just to get a decent deco. You wont have to live with the guilt of noe having wasted money, you get the good stuff straight away

In my experience when I have to buy two versions of the same mold I just slap a purple autobot logo on the ugliest version And put it with the sg's.

I never got into SG, so its a little late for me to start now.