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Jetfire never were a Decepticon?

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Re: Jetfire never were a Decepticon?

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:32 am

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christo wrote:i guess i was wrong then, but where does the name jetfire come from then? in the wiki it says that his name is jetfire, and he is sometimes called skyfire.
anyways, i will say jetfire as i have always done.


I dont mean to sound rude but........we've answered your question a few times already.

The Toy and the comic character were called "JETFIRE" so thats were it comes from.

The cartoon character was called "SKYFIRE".

Now the reasons they changed the cartoon characters name and desgin are a bit convoluted.

To put it shorty, Takara requested a model change because they werent allowed to use the Jetfire design when airing the cartoon in Japan and its other markets.

This was what the character and the toy originally looked like.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHJtwmt9JAU

But like I said Takara couldnt use the likeness so the requested the characters appearance be changed.

Hasbro then chose to also change the characters name so as to not break with any "false advertising rules" since the character no longer looked like the toy.

Advertising rules were much different in the 80's.
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Re: Jetfire never were a Decepticon?

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jul 03, 2009 2:33 pm

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In other words, the Jetfire toy was made first, but his show design was changed before his cartoon debut, and when he finally appeared in the cartoon, his appearance was different from his toy, and his name was also changed to Skyfire. But it was never "Jetfire" in the show, just for the toy, comic character (who also used the "Skyfire" character model), and the toy commercial.
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Re: Jetfire never were a Decepticon?

Postby fenrir72 » Sat Jul 04, 2009 9:43 pm

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For the love of christ christo, put the issue to rest. Toy=Jetfire, cartoon=Skyfire. The reasons are in wiki..............end of story.
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Re: Jetfire never were a Decepticon?

Postby T-Macksimus » Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:02 pm

I hate getting caught with my "American"ness showing. :P

Thanks for correcting my improper name usage. If any line deserves the utmost degree of respect it is that one. I've been under the weather lately and my focus has been less than stellar.
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Re: Jetfire never were a Decepticon?

Postby Dagon » Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:46 am

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Yeah, those ROBOTECH designers sure knew what they were doing! :P



Ahem, Not to start a secondary debate but....

Yes. Those SDF MACROSS designers did know what they were doing. :-B



Has there ever been a more controversial origin to any Transformer character/toy ever? Seriously. Everything about Jet/Skyfire (only written that way to preserve the superiority of alphabetical order, ok?) is up for argument.
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Re: Jetfire never were a Decepticon?

Postby Editor » Mon Jul 06, 2009 12:00 pm

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No worries T-mack, It's not like i don't have the full set of Robotech novels and DVD's sitting at home. (which I do)

As for the controversy aspect, I can't thing of any that would even come near to ***fire's. the shear number of forces in play are staggering.

Just for companies alone:
Takatoku
Bandai
Big West
Studio Nue
Takara
Hasbro
Matchbox
Harmany Gold
Sunbow
Marvel

It's such a mess, it's amazing that he was ever released in the first place.
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