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Which Optimus is that with wheel jack?

I look forward to generation selects, Starscream and Wind Razor

If they do a 2 pack with a repaint of starscream as Dirge and a repaint of the future hot shot as roadbuster that'd be fun

Not very likely but I still have that old Dirge and an update would be nice

Man, that Chromia figure just looks...bland. No character to it at all. It's just kind of taking up space.

Sandstorm...I'm mixed on him. I actually enjoyed the Generations take on him. My wife says he just looks goofy. I'm not going to argue with her...not because I agree, but because I've been married almost 25 years and know better.

THat Starscream is damned near perfect. Now...just waiting for a third party to make a cannon that snaps over the sword.

Silverbolt...wow. Just amazing. Absolutely spot on. I think we can skip any BW Masterpiece for him. This is it.

Theoretically speaking, if I were able to get Legacy United Beast Wars Silverbolt and Cybertron Starscream, which ones would you like to see first?

TK415 wrote:Which Optimus is that with wheel jack?

Where?

TK415 wrote:Which Optimus is that with wheel jack?

Bumblebee Movie Studio Series 38 Voyager Optimus Prime.

Sandstorm looks good, not something I need though. It actually looks very bulky/top heavy in Bot form and the alt modes don't look as streamline as I would like, especially the dune buggy. These things are really starting to look like toys more and more.

I can clearly say without doubt that this Sandstorm is a total pass making my Takara TG-29 supreme in my Neo-G1 fold...'nuff said!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Theoretically speaking, if I were able to get Legacy United Beast Wars Silverbolt and Cybertron Starscream, which ones would you like to see first?

Being so familiar with the original, I'd want to get Cybertron Starscream first to see what improvements they did on the original concept.

BW Silverbolt is also a must-have to complete my BW cast.

Overcracker wrote:

TK415 wrote:Which Optimus is that with wheel jack?

Bumblebee Movie Studio Series 38 Voyager Optimus Prime.

Awesome thanks man!

Did they forget to paint Silverbolt? Is he really going to be that dull gray all over?

Rodimus Prime wrote:Did they forget to paint Silverbolt? Is he really going to be that dull gray all over?

It's slightly silver plastic, but I don't know what you were expecting, he's actually a little more colorful than the original.




Emerje

william-james88 wrote:

Looks like the Twitter user who made this collage used the wrong cartoon models for Sandstorm, the ones made by a Russian fan. They're all fuzzy in quality, and the blacks are so dark and washed out you can barely see the windows on the side of the helicopter or the details on the hood of the dune buggy.

Here's the correct models.

The differences in colors are pretty much irrelevant.
Especially when many pictures got their color changed, and toy pictures depends on the camera and general lighting.

What matters with these comparison shots are the overall shapes of the toy VS the toon. And for a Generations line, that's as close as we can get.

Opinions:

Silverbolt, why? I have the original and always thought of him as perfect. And this 95 years later modern tooling, he looks well the same.

Canonball, damn shame, I wished they were aiming for Armada Red Alert and not Cybertron Red Alert. I understand because of the recolor stuff but I would've loved an Armada voyager Redalert who isn't horribly deformed.

Cybertron Starscream, now that is excellent! I hope they do the Thundercracker / Skywarp repaints. Armada Starscream was a bit mid, okay but just dull. Also a bit loose in the joints, atleast mine.

Chromia, at first I was very excited! Then I realized she doesn't look like the Cyberverse cartoon figure. The head is all wrong, she needs cartoony cute big eyes and lipstick. She just looks like a bland generations figure. Perfect as is, but not that Cyberverse Chromia. C'mon HAsbro you did Cyberverse Arcee perfectly, why not repeat that?

That purple bird thing lady chick looks cool.

Sandstorm looks like hell to transform, so big pass.

What I'm looking forward to is a new Devastator, will he be deluxe limbs?

noctorro wrote:Canonball, damn shame, I wished they were aiming for Armada Red Alert and not Cybertron Red Alert. I understand because of the recolor stuff but I would've loved an Armada voyager Redalert who isn't horribly deformed.

We are getting a Voyager Armada Red Alert.

noctorro wrote:Chromia, at first I was very excited! Then I realized she doesn't look like the Cyberverse cartoon figure. The head is all wrong, she needs cartoony cute big eyes and lipstick. She just looks like a bland generations figure. Perfect as is, but not that Cyberverse Chromia. C'mon HAsbro you did Cyberverse Arcee perfectly, why not repeat that?

Because this is Legacy, not the Cyberverse line proper. Legacy keeps G1-ifying everything from stylized lines.

Emerje wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Did they forget to paint Silverbolt? Is he really going to be that dull gray all over?

It's slightly silver plastic, but I don't know what you were expecting, he's actually a little more colorful than the original.

I guess I wanted a screen accurate figure. IIRC on screen he was more charcoal colored with shiny silver front parts.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Did they forget to paint Silverbolt? Is he really going to be that dull gray all over?

It's slightly silver plastic, but I don't know what you were expecting, he's actually a little more colorful than the original.

I guess I wanted a screen accurate figure. IIRC on screen he was more charcoal colored with shiny silver front parts.

Everything about the Maximals' and Predacons' robot parts was shiny in the cartoon.

noctorro wrote:What I'm looking forward to is a new Devastator, will he be deluxe limbs?

The limbs have been confirmed(?) to be deluxes AND voyagers. I guess deluxe arms and voyager legs. As for the torso, nothing is confirmed but I can guess both would be "leaders" who would come with the combining extra bits.

That sounds interesting, I had Devastator as a kid. Surprisingly due to the need for six separate bots and coming from low income family not to mention living in the countryside at the time which made it difficult to buy a lot of things without ordering from Sears Catalog.

Anyhoo, It would be interesting to see how they mix Deluxe with voyagers to create a larger bot when typically it's been closer to Legends scale Since I don't have breakdown yet I don't know how "big" Menasor is or how it compares to the old Devastator.

In the past two bots formed the chest/torso so how does/will it work out with a Voyager, and which one will it be? The configuration is pretty much set, so it couldn't be the arms and legs which leave Hook and/or Long Haul. 4 Deluxe and 2 Voyagers? Would also seem kind of odd being that they all looked the same size on screen. It would also put Devastator at $170 when complete versus the old version being smaller bots.

So does that mean they will just try to Titan this beast or sprinkle it out via the main line over teh course of 2-4 waves?

Till-all-R1 wrote:Anyhoo, It would be interesting to see how they mix Deluxe with voyagers to create a larger bot when typically it's been closer to Legends scale Since I don't have breakdown yet I don't know how "big" Menasor is or how it compares to the old Devastator.

Legacy Menasor is a smidge taller than the Combiner Wars Combiners and Siege Jetfire, roughly 12 inches or 1 foot tall. The Titan class Devastator was about 18 inches or 1.5 feet tall.

Till-all-R1 wrote:In the past two bots formed the chest/torso so how does/will it work out with a Voyager, and which one will it be?

At this time, we don't know anything about the torso components. The leak that revealed Scavenger and Bonecrusher to be Deluxes and Scrapper and Mixmaster to be Voyagers didn't mention Hook or Long Haul.

Till-all-R1 wrote:So does that mean they will just try to Titan this beast or sprinkle it out via the main line over teh course of 2-4 waves?

The latter.

Keep in mind that Devastator is SS86, not Legacy.

noctorro wrote:Silverbolt, why? I have the original and always thought of him as perfect. And this 95 years later modern tooling, he looks well the same.

He was a great figure for the time, easily one of the best, but there was a lot of room for improvement. The wings sat awkwardly over his shoulders for the action feature rather than on his back which isn't great. The cartoon also made him scale a lot larger (as well as fixing his wings) which the new figure reflects.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Did they forget to paint Silverbolt? Is he really going to be that dull gray all over?

It's slightly silver plastic, but I don't know what you were expecting, he's actually a little more colorful than the original.

I guess I wanted a screen accurate figure. IIRC on screen he was more charcoal colored with shiny silver front parts.

Everything about the Maximals' and Predacons' robot parts was shiny in the cartoon.

Even the Beast Wars Again repaints haven't been that dedicated. As far as his color goes, maybe it was a little darker on the show, but so much of that was set at night and in dark spaces that it's hard to really say for sure. I think it's spot on.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Did they forget to paint Silverbolt? Is he really going to be that dull gray all over?

It's slightly silver plastic, but I don't know what you were expecting, he's actually a little more colorful than the original.

I guess I wanted a screen accurate figure. IIRC on screen he was more charcoal colored with shiny silver front parts.

Everything about the Maximals' and Predacons' robot parts was shiny in the cartoon.

Even the Beast Wars Again repaints haven't been that dedicated. As far as his color goes, maybe it was a little darker on the show, but so much of that was set at night and in dark spaces that it's hard to really say for sure. I think it's spot on.

He was supposed to be a fused wolf and eagle, right? I guess I can buy his top half being that color if we're talking a gray wolf, but I think even those are a bit darker. And his legs are supposed to be an eagle's. Do eagles have gray legs?

I'm sorry if I come off nitpicky, I'm just trying to make it make sense. He just doesn't look like he did on the show. The others, as ridiculous as some of their colors were, at least adhered to their show colors somewhat.

Well, here's two different scans of Silverbolt's official Mainframe promo art (one from Transformers: The Ultimate Guide, the other from Beast Wars Universe) for comparison:




The differences in lighting are accurate to how they both appear in each book, respectively.