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Why Was Jazz Smaller Than Bumblebee?

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Why Was Jazz Smaller Than Bumblebee?

Postby Bumbled » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:37 am

I was quite surprised by this... and I posted another topic about this as well only thing saying "Was Jazz bigger than Bumblebee?" So this one is why?

My say, and Michael Bay's, well at least I think.

I read on another website that Michael Bay couldn't make Jazz bigger because he was a Pontiac Solstice. So that's what i think as well. The Camaro was bigger...

Why do you think he was smaller?
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Postby D-340 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 2:43 am

Because the Camero is bigger than the Solstice. Have you even seen a Pontiac Soltice up close? Man they're tiny. I'm actually suprised Jazz didn't look smaller.
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Postby Zinger » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:18 am

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Well, they could've just as easily have made Jazz NOT a Pontiac Solstice, and have chosen a bigger car for his Alt.Mode. But I suppose in Jazz's case they wanted to go with something small, sleek, and sexy.
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Postby KingEmperor » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:28 am

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^^^ Actually, I think I read an interview with Michael Bay sometime ago that he was given the Solstice to work with. He didn't want it, but he didn't have a choice.
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Postby Auto Bot » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:50 am

That's probably the deal with GM.

Business politics.
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Postby Zinger » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:51 am

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^^ That seems like a slightly more likely cause. But I would imagine that as director, he'd have more power over choosing what cars to use for the robot characters. But maybe that's the reason Jazz was killed off; He didn't like the Solstice (Just kidding.)
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Postby Auto Bot » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:39 am

Zinger wrote:^^ That seems like a slightly more likely cause. But I would imagine that as director, he'd have more power over choosing what cars to use for the robot characters. But maybe that's the reason Jazz was killed off; He didn't like the Solstice (Just kidding.)


Don't be kidding. Maybe that CAN BE the real reason behind it.
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Postby Zinger » Thu Aug 02, 2007 4:43 am

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Oh Jeebus. You're right. :sad:
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Postby immediate autobot » Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:08 am

um in an interview, micheal said he hated jazz's alternate form but liked the guy, just hated his size and look, which is part of the reason ppl believe he was killed off
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Postby Galvatron628 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:35 am

My theory:

They wanted to used the new camaro for the movie, so they talked to GM and it ended up turning into a deal where they HAD to use GM vehicles for cars in the movie. Now if you've seen a Solstice in real life, you know it resembles a porsche quite a bit. So they sacrificed his size to make his alt mode resemble his original!
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Postby Bladewing » Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:43 am

Maybe it was so he could find a parking space more easily?
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Postby immediate autobot » Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:45 am

Bladewing wrote:Maybe it was so he could find a parking space more easily?

yeah this does make the most sense, so its agreed,
looks like another mystery solved by the seibertron forum gang, our work here is done
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Postby Auto Bot » Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:15 am

immediate autobot wrote:
Bladewing wrote:Maybe it was so he could find a parking space more easily?

yeah this does make the most sense, so its agreed,
looks like another mystery solved by the seibertron forum gang, our work here is done


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Postby RatchetMD » Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:49 am

Jazz didn't eat his vegetables.
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Postby Auto Bot » Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:58 am

RatchetMD wrote:Jazz didn't eat his vegetables.


And.. his growth tablets!
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Postby Tankman » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:01 am

He drank coffee and smoked
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Postby RatchetMD » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:04 am

Tankman wrote:He drank coffee and smoked


Does coffee stunt your growth? I've never heard that. /:)
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Postby Tankman » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:10 am

It's just somethin i've heard from my parents
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Postby RatchetMD » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:12 am

Tankman wrote:It's just somethin i've heard from my parents


They just didn't want you bouncing off the walls. :wink:
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Postby Tankman » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:14 am

I'm hyper enough
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Postby Briggs » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:34 am

Zinger wrote:Well, they could've just as easily have made Jazz NOT a Pontiac Solstice, and have chosen a bigger car for his Alt.Mode. But I suppose in Jazz's case they wanted to go with something small, sleek, and sexy.


Bay said that he wanted Jazz bigger, but he saved 3mil on the budget by making him a solstice, he didnt seem happy with his decision, but, money always takes priority.
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Postby Ravage XK » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:43 am

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I dont get why Jazz had to die. As far as I could see he was torn in two. Why would that kill him?

If the TF life is its spark and the body is just a shell couldnt he have just got a new lower half of the body?

I find the whole concept of a robot dying a bit odd. Unless the brain or storage unit where its personality and memories are stored is destroyed then surley it can be put into another shell?

Maybe it just makes for better story telling?

Poor Jazz.
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Postby Tankman » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:45 am

Ravage XK wrote:I dont get why Jazz had to die. As far as I could see he was torn in two. Why would that kill him?

If the TF life is its spark and the body is just a shell couldnt he have just got a new lower half of the body?

I find the whole concept of a robot dying a bit odd. Unless the brain or storage unit where its personality and memories are stored is destroyed then surley it can be put into another shell?

Maybe it just makes for better story telling?

Poor Jazz.


It's just stupid. Frenzy got his head choped off and he some how managed to survive
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Postby Ravage XK » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:48 am

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Tankman wrote:
Ravage XK wrote:I dont get why Jazz had to die. As far as I could see he was torn in two. Why would that kill him?

If the TF life is its spark and the body is just a shell couldnt he have just got a new lower half of the body?

I find the whole concept of a robot dying a bit odd. Unless the brain or storage unit where its personality and memories are stored is destroyed then surley it can be put into another shell?

Maybe it just makes for better story telling?

Poor Jazz.


It's just stupid. Frenzy got his head choped off and he some how managed to survive


Yes he did! I forgot about that. Perhaps there is hope for Jazz yet?
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Postby Tankman » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:52 am

He probably shut down so he won't use up his energy and just needs to be reactivated
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