>
shop.seibertron.com amazon.seibertron.com Facebook Twitter X YouTube Pinterest Instagram Myspace LinkedIn Patreon Podcast RSS
This page runs on affiliate links — your clicks may earn us a few Shanix. Want the full transmission? Roll out to our Affiliate Disclosure.

Autobots vs. Decepticons - A G1 Analysis (Episode 2 of 3)

There is more to Transformers than movies, cartoons, comics and toys. Discuss anything else Transformers here.

Autobots vs. Decepticons - A G1 Analysis (Episode 2 of 3)

Postby mossman » Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:03 pm

Motto: ""These are random thoughts, and I am a random person.""
Weapon: High-Voltage Electric Cannon
Ok, we're back for the second installment of my analysis. Previously we looked at land and air dominance, with the Autobots taking land and the Decepticons having a slight advantage in the air. Now it's time to focus on sea and space.



Part 3: Ocean Superiority

Most of the waterbound Transformers didn’t appear until 1988, so it took a while for this setting to factor into the conflict. However the Decepticons were particularly aggressive in trying to gain an advantage here, with the creation of the Seacons and others. Did they succeed? Let’s look at the numbers:

Category – (Autobot vs. Decepticon)
Count - 6 vs. 13
Strength - 6.3 vs. 7.5
Intelligence - 7.3 vs. 6.3
Speed - 7.0 vs. 4.5
Endurance - 6.8 vs. 7.2
Courage - 9.2 vs. 7.7
Firepower - 7.2 vs. 6.7
Skill - 7.7 vs. 7.0

The Autobots are really outnumbered here, with only half the troops of their opponents. Despite this, the Autobots have a clear intelligence, speed, courage, skill, and firepower advantage. In turn the Decepticons have the numbers and the strength advantage. Can this be the first time that raw numbers are not enough to gain the overall advantage?

The best Autobot is a rough match for the best Decepticon with Broadside taking on Scourge. Give this one to the Autobots then, right? Not so fast! The Autobots almost entirely operate on the surface of the water, with only 2 of their numbers able to go underwater. In contrast, most Decepticons operate underwater. That means the Decepticons can strike at the Autobots from underwater, where the Autobots have limited ability to strike back. Then you throw in the numbers, and this is one battle the Autobots will be hard pressed to win.

Verdict: Advantage :CON: Decepticons


Part 4: Space Superiority

Not many Transformers can operate in space. I know that in the cartoon Starscream and his folk just fly into space when they wanted to, but come on, they’re fighter jets. I only counted the robots if they were either a space vehicle or their bio indicated they could fly into space from Earth’s gravity well. And I’m not counting rocket ships which are a component of a base which is otherwise earthbound. It turns out that these factors limited the field substantially. Let’s look at the numbers:

Category – (Autobot vs. Decepticon)
Count – 4 vs. 4
Strength - 6.3 vs. 7.5
Intelligence - 8.5 vs. 7.8
Speed – 10 vs. 7.8
Endurance - 6.8 vs. 6.8
Courage - 8.5 vs. 6.5
Firepower - 7.0 vs. 7.5
Skill - 8.3 vs. 8.8

Well, we know there won’t be a numbers advantage here. However the Autobots do enjoy better intelligence, speed and courage than their evil counterparts. The Decepticons have the strength advantage with a slight edge in firepower and skill. The numbers are not enough to declare a winner here.

But the best of the Autobots are enough. With Sky Lynx, Jetfire, and Cloudburst matching or besting the Decepticons Sixshot and Astrotrain, the good guys will take this one. It isn’t a slam dunk, but the star power of the Autobots provide enough to tip the balance of power in their direction.

Verdict: Slight Advantage :BOT: Autobots


Two-thirds down, and the final installment left to go.

Next Time: Finishing Big and the Big Finish
mossman
Mini-Con
Posts: 20
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:17 am
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 10
Endurance: 10
Rank: 10
Courage: 10
Firepower: 9
Skill: 9

Re: Autobots vs. Decepticons - A G1 Analysis (Episode 2 of 3)

Postby quickmixed » Mon Jul 04, 2011 4:02 am

Im enjoying reading these. Nice work.

Im not sure if you're including the Micromasters but there was an Autobot set of 4 called the Astro squad. They were combining Micromasters and were all capable of space flight.
WANTED TO BUY

C-125:Shoki, C126:Getsui, C127:Yukikaze, C129:Seizan. MIB + unused stickers PM for details.
quickmixed
Vehicon
Posts: 366
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:00 pm

Re: Autobots vs. Decepticons - A G1 Analysis (Episode 2 of 3)

Postby mossman » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:02 am

Motto: ""These are random thoughts, and I am a random person.""
Weapon: High-Voltage Electric Cannon
I threw out the patrols and squads because there were so many, they used a different attribute scheme, and their stats were generally quite average in ability. That might be the most questionable omission I made though. I don't know. I think if they had been treated as individuals, each with their own bio, I would have put them in. Great observation.
mossman
Mini-Con
Posts: 20
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:17 am
Strength: 10
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 10
Endurance: 10
Rank: 10
Courage: 10
Firepower: 9
Skill: 9


Return to Transformers General Discussion


[ Incoming message. Source unknown. ] No Signal - Please Stand By [ Click to attempt signal recovery... ]


Transformers and More @ The Seibertron Store

Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "TIDAL WAVE + Mini-Con RAMJET Transformers Armada Giga-Con complete 2003 250416"
TIDAL WAVE + Mini- ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "SIDE BURN Transformers Legacy United Deluxe Class RID Hasbro 2024 New"
SIDE BURN Transfor ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "ARMADA GALVATRON Transformers Legacy United Leader Class Hasbro 2024 New"
ARMADA GALVATRON T ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "MX-00 UNICRON + DEAD END Transformers Micron Legends Armada Takara 2003 New"
MX-00 UNICRON + DE ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "REPUGNUS Transformers Cybertron Scout complete + s48r key Hasbro 2006 250427"
REPUGNUS Transform ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "ENERGON GALVATRON Transformers Legacy United Core Class Hasbro 2024 New"
ENERGON GALVATRON ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "THUNDERCRACKER Transformers Cybertron Legends of Cybertron complete 2006 230719A"
THUNDERCRACKER Tra ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "TRANSFORMERS #21 Cvr F Energon Universe Image Comics 2025 0425IM424 21F Howard"
TRANSFORMERS #21 C ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "JETFIRE Transformers Cybertron Burger King Fast Food Premium 2005 230719B"
JETFIRE Transforme ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "GAME OLDER Transformers BotBots Series 4 Retro Replays 2020 game cartridge"
GAME OLDER Transfo ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "TRANSFORMERS #21 Cvr G Energon Universe Image Comics 2025 0425IM425 21G Howard"
TRANSFORMERS #21 C ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "ARMADA WHEELJACK Transformers Legacy United Deluxe Class Hasbro 2025 New"
ARMADA WHEELJACK T ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "Transformers Legacy Evolution STRONGARM Deluxe Class RID Universe Hasbro 2023 Ne"
Transformers Legac ...
Visit shop.seibertron.com to buy "RED ALERT Transformers Cybertron Legends of Cybertron complete 2005 240906A"
RED ALERT Transfor ...
These are affiliate links. We may earn a commission.
Details subject to change. See listing for latest price and availability.

Featured Products on Amazon.com

Buy "Transformers Authentics Optimus Prime" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Toys Megatron Cyberverse Ultimate Class Action Figure - Repeatable Fusion Mega Shot Action Attack Move - Toys for Kids 6 and Up, 11.5-inch" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Generations Power of the Primes Titan Class Predaking" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Studio Series 09 Voyager Class Movie 2 Thundercracker" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Deluxe Stryker 1 Action Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Studio Series 10 Deluxe Class Movie 1 Autobot Jazz" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Titans Return Deluxe Misfire and Aimless" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers: Generations Power of The Primes Deluxe Class Dinobot Slug" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Deluxe Class Alpha Bravo Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Generations Titans Return Deluxe Slugslinger and Caliburst" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Attacker 15 Peterman Action Figure" on AMAZON
Buy "Transformers Movie Anniversary Edition Optimus Prime (Amazon Exclusive)" on AMAZON
These are affiliate links. We may earn a commission.
Details subject to change. See listing for latest price and availability.