The Energon Pub

OK, that is kiiiiinda expensive. Given the sheer cost of the originals on eBay though (at least over here in the UK) I think it's worth it.

What I really want though is a Gigatron reissue.

william-james88 wrote:While we had some news of an Encore Reissue of Transformers Car Robots God Fire Convoy, we now have a confirmation from the Loopaza Mega Store that this is indeed happening. We also have the MSRP price for this set, which has been revealed to be 30,000 Yen, which is the equivalent of $265 USD at the moment. Of course, many stores in Japan often sell their toys at 20%-30% off MSRP but any of those savings are usually lost on anyone either importing the toys or buying them from local importers. So for anyone outside Japan, this will probably be what you will be paying when all is said and done.

Sold! I owned both, exclusive Japanese Toys-R-Us version and the Korean Boxed Version. I HAD to sell them both!! NEVER AGAIN! God Fire Convoy/Omega Prime, is the single greatest Toy I have ever wanted to own outside of G-1 Masterpieces and The ressurected Movie Masterpiece Line, I shall have him as mine!!.

While it's true that the cost to produce these have gone up thanks to their part counts and electronics, people are forgetting something else rather important: These are only getting a limited collector release. Don't get me wrong, they wont be exclusive and will be sold at several retailers, but they aren't going to be made in the numbers they were made in in 2000. Smaller runs for collectors, probably in a nice display box at least, will always cost more.

Pricing these at less than the cost of two Unite Warriors sets seems about right to me.

The Movie the Best line probably didn't suffer all that much from inflation when you factor in possible mold alterations for better plastic color matching, premium paint decos, and smaller production runs. Since even molds from 2017 in the line saw a hefty markup it just doesn't seem like inflation was a major factor.

Emerje

I pulled out my Prime and Magnus to to take some pictures comparing it to Legends Super God Jinrai, and I was surprised at how similarly both combinations work.

Magnus legs and feet, form boots for Prime.
Magnus arms form arm covers / bigger arms for prime.
Magnus's torso goes over Prime like an armor vest in a very similar configuration.

Anyway, Height-wise they end up being about the same size, but damn, if God Fire Convoy (Omega Prime) isn't at least 3 times as heavy, and bulky.

Plus there's all of Prime's trailer / Super mode parts left over, to add to the part count.

Overcracker wrote:I pulled out my Prime and Magnus to to take some pictures comparing it to Legends Super God Jinrai, and I was surprised at how similarly both combinations work.

Magnus legs and feet, form boots for Prime.
Magnus arms form arm covers / bigger arms for prime.
Magnus's torso goes over Prime like an armor vest in a very similar configuration.

Anyway, Height-wise they end up being about the same size, but damn, if God Fire Convoy (Omega Prime) isn't at least 3 times as heavy, and bulky.

Plus there's all of Prime's trailer / Super mode parts left over, to add to the part count.

The style of combination between two robots (core + armor) is pretty common in other series, but Transformers has only done it... 2 times, 3 if we're counting Victory Saber?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Overcracker wrote:I pulled out my Prime and Magnus to to take some pictures comparing it to Legends Super God Jinrai, and I was surprised at how similarly both combinations work.

Magnus legs and feet, form boots for Prime.
Magnus arms form arm covers / bigger arms for prime.
Magnus's torso goes over Prime like an armor vest in a very similar configuration.

Anyway, Height-wise they end up being about the same size, but damn, if God Fire Convoy (Omega Prime) isn't at least 3 times as heavy, and bulky.

Plus there's all of Prime's trailer / Super mode parts left over, to add to the part count.

The style of combination between two robots (core + armor) is pretty common in other series, but Transformers has only done it... 2 times, 3 if we're counting Victory Saber?

True, assuming you don't count Energon Prime + Wing Saber, or Cybertron Prime + Wing Saber in those Inner Robot + Armor combinations.

Overcracker wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Overcracker wrote:I pulled out my Prime and Magnus to to take some pictures comparing it to Legends Super God Jinrai, and I was surprised at how similarly both combinations work.

Magnus legs and feet, form boots for Prime.
Magnus arms form arm covers / bigger arms for prime.
Magnus's torso goes over Prime like an armor vest in a very similar configuration.

Anyway, Height-wise they end up being about the same size, but damn, if God Fire Convoy (Omega Prime) isn't at least 3 times as heavy, and bulky.

Plus there's all of Prime's trailer / Super mode parts left over, to add to the part count.

The style of combination between two robots (core + armor) is pretty common in other series, but Transformers has only done it... 2 times, 3 if we're counting Victory Saber?

True, assuming you don't count Energon Prime + Wing Saber, or Cybertron Prime + Wing Saber in those Inner Robot + Armor combinations.

Movie jetfire?

I've Got God Fire Convoy and the Universe versions too. I've got some less than perfect Hasbro ones If I recall.

I like them but I don't tend to use them much due to fragility and the chrome ware potential. I've always wanted the Black ones though. My Go to one was the Banana yellow one though - I always liked that one.

I'd rather welcome a store exclusive or Web exclusive repaint of them along with the reissue. Not sure what the appropriate deco would be though perhaps some sort of Nemesis Prime or Grand Scourge inspired deco. They'd look great in darker colours but if they used a bit of grey and other colours they'd not step on the toes of the black ones then.

I guess another idea might be to go with Powered Convoy inspired deco with lots of Blue and Black. I have seen the actual fire truck that SFC is based on in white though and that looked nice. I suppose they could even see if they have that Defensor head around still some place and release that.

But for the straight re-issue i'm not over bothered - as like others have said I have the original one/s still.

But if they sell it at a premium price it might not get a lot of interest what with the RID one being pretty easy to get still and not expensive if you buy them in parts lots. Heck the hardest thing to get is likely the small pistol everything else is easy to find.

I have not Idea where the idea they are rare or expensive comes from. Maybe the Japanese Giftset is but the RID one is really easy to get. Sure there are some muppets on ebay trying to con people into paying a premium for all sorts of crap (like Armada Scavenger) but that doesn't mean other people are.

Courtesy of Takara Tomy and via site sponsor TFSource, we have the official images of the upcoming reissue in the Transformers Encore line of the Car Robots God Fire Convoy combined form of God Magnus and Fire Convoy - or Ultra Magnus and Optimus Prime for Anglophone audiences. Check them out below, and compare them to the Seibertron.com galleries of the original release of the toys.

Two of the first non G1 Transformers I bought when I got back into collecting.

Still great toys.

I always wanted them repainted as Scourge and Motormaster with their combined form Nemesis Prime.

I always felt that the only flaw in this Prime was his feet being a bit small in robot mode. I remember buying Fire Convoy years ago at a local shop that sold collectibles which is gone today.

It's a great figure IMO which I even got the Sams Club release and I removed the screw holding the ladder making it much more enjoyable in Battle mode and paired up with AM Firebolt.

So I read that the tires issue is most common with the Hasbro figures...?

Windsweeper wrote:Two of the first non G1 Transformers I bought when I got back into collecting.

Still great toys.

Same here. I need to pull them out and have a play with them again. They're just so good!

I wonder if this is the final product or hand painted prototypes because it doesn't look like there's a lot of bare plastic on these. If they're giving these the masterpiece treatment and giving them a nice consistent coat of paint they're going to look amazing!

If these are indeed indicative of the final figures then the biggest change is the lack of red and blue chrome on Fire Convoy and God Magnus respectively. If that's the case then I'm definitely sold on these.

Emerje

I bought the Japanese Versions back when Hasbro wasn't saying they were bringing the toys over here, and I have never been able to figure out how to combine them with the instructions.

Translucent Super God Sword!!!!!

It doesn't look like there's as much chrome on these as before, as God Magnus's front bumper, Fire Convoy's standard robot chest and eyes, and Super Fire Convoy's eyes don't look to be that shiny in these (admittedly rather dulled) images.

It seems all the chrome short of the Autobot symbols, rims, and antenna is no longer chrome (I would say this is a good change).

Fire Convoy has C-001 on his front bumper (I'm guessing God Magnus might have his Car Robots designation too, it's just too hard to see in these photos).

The most obvious change is the coloration of the Super God Sword. It's no longer solid blue with a blue sticker but clear gray / purple with a silver sticker. This is animation accurate.

For those who were looking for it to pair with your Brave Maximus, it's not going to match as nicely.

Randy

Sword included to help with combined mode stability/pose-ability?

Kyleor wrote:Sword included to help with combined mode stability/pose-ability?

More like "sword included because it should be included".

I transformed my original just a few months ago when cleaning my Transformers, and it really was a great toy. The pair of figures were some of the very few (out of 900 or so) that I transformed, without instructions, no less. While the first Transformers in my collection were from '84, I started collecting as an adult as the RID series started. This pair/combiner was definitely a favorite, although I still like Sideburns a great deal, too... especially the blue version. I wonder what the interest in the reissue will be like? That's a pretty steep price tag. I can't imagine the orginals are anywhere near that price.

Bah, I keep holding my finger over the TFsource pre-order, but I just can't bring myself to do it

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fenrir72 wrote:http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-033857&page=top

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That's a little more palatable, even though it will a giant box that can't go through SAL.

Thus far, the main differences in this set from the originals appear to be some mild paint differences (on both the toys and the sword), less chrome, and possibly brand new voice clips recorded by Satoshi Hashimoto (Fire Convoy's original voice actor).

fenrir72 wrote:http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-033857&page=top

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Huh. They aren't usually the first ones to list. It's nice to finally see an overseas listing... I was waiting for confirmation this was actually "Encore".

Even better images of this set - https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B0765ZPG6X

Including some new pics, as there are 14 in all.