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News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:06 pm

tinncity wrote:how many new jazz masterpieces are out now? i know there is the coolville by toyworld which looks the best...and the downbeat by maketoys which looks ok...is there another one coming? i read somewhere that a new toy company was gonna make one?

Third party toys don't get galleries here (anymore, that is). They aren't official Transformers products.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:21 am

Sabrblade wrote:
tinncity wrote:how many new jazz masterpieces are out now? i know there is the coolville by toyworld which looks the best...and the downbeat by maketoys which looks ok...is there another one coming? i read somewhere that a new toy company was gonna make one?
Third party toys don't get galleries here (anymore, that is). They aren't official Transformers products.

As in, not made by either Hasbro, TakaraTomy or a licensee thereof. Third Party products aren't endorsed by either company (in fact, Hasbro groans every time it's brought up), so they don't find support here.
It did in the early days, but now there are so many, buying and doing galleries of them, along with the official toys in addition to maintaining the website, it's simply unfeasible. Not to mention all the companies do is play monkey see monkey do. The 3 versions of "MP Jazz" says enough.

by **tinncity** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:09 am

well then when is an "official" masterpiece jazz coming out? i'm just a guy that used to play with them as a kid and has a newfound interest in them. i don't care what company makes them as long as they're cool! i did always wonder though how third party companies can get away with copyright infringement? i guess it would be too costly to go after all of them?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:34 am

tinncity wrote:well then when is an "official" masterpiece jazz coming out?

There hasn't been any announcement of one yet. No one knows when TakaraTomy decides to make their announcements of new Masterpiece figures, nor can anyone tell which characters they'll choose to make next. It's all up to Takara.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:32 pm

tinncity wrote:well then when is an "official" masterpiece jazz coming out? i'm just a guy that used to play with them as a kid and has a newfound interest in them. i don't care what company makes them as long as they're cool!

It's not just TakaraTomy that makes the call, but also the company to license the car model from. In the 80's licensing was hardly ever done, but nowadays car manufacturers require it: that explains why current figures have mashed up or made-up models for cars and even aircraft. Between Binaltech/Alternators, Alternity and Masterpiece that use licensed models these brands have done business with Hasbro/TakaraTomy:

- Subaru
- Dodge
- Jeep
- Chevrolet
- Mazda
- Ford
- Honda (with a bit of a hitch)
- Toyota
- Nissan
- Suzuki
- Mitsuoka
- Lamborghini (after a change of heart)
- Volkswagen (another that later changed its mind)
- Lancia
- Fuso

Porsche, the company responsible for Jazz and Cliffjumper's car modes, has yet to give its approval. But during Binaltech and Alternators some characters got car models different from their G1 versions: Sideswipe and Sunstreaker (Dodge Viper instead of Lamborghini Countach), Smokescreen and Bluestreak/Silverstreak (Subaru Impreza instead of Nissan 330ZX), and Jazz:

Transformers Alternators Meister (Jazz) (Meister) Gallery

...as a Mazda RX-08, instead of Porsche 935 Turbo and renamed Meister after his Japanese name. That's the closest to an official MP Jazz we have. Well... not counting this guy:

Transformers Reveal The Shield Special Ops Jazz Gallery

Sorry for the history lesson. :oops:

tinncity wrote: i did always wonder though how third party companies can get away with copyright infringement? i guess it would be too costly to go after all of them?

The long and the short of it, is that they keep a low profile to not make a real financial threat, keeping their products out of domestic chains, not copying the designs exactly, instead making "inspired" designs and not using any of Hasbro's trademarked names for their figures. The result would be that even if Hasbro had a case, it would be a long, difficult and expensive process to pursue.
However, Hasbro has shut down knockoff companies that have flat-out copied designs and had them sold in stores, starting way back in the 80's and continuing to the 2007 Movie. Plus, they practically banned unlicensed product from BotCon (they did allow artists selling their fan art after protests). They will fight if threatened.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Wed Feb 08, 2017 4:46 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
tinncity wrote:well then when is an "official" masterpiece jazz coming out?
There hasn't been any announcement of one yet. No one knows when TakaraTomy decides to make their announcements of new Masterpiece figures, nor can anyone tell which characters they'll choose to make next. It's all up to Takara.

Not just Takara. Porsche's ownership is pretty complicated and might be part of the reason why the license is so elusive. To quote Wikipedia: "Porsche AG is headquartered in Stuttgart, and is owned by Volkswagen AG, which is itself majority-owned by Porsche Automobil Holding SE." It was a long struggle to get whichever of these companies to hand over the VW Beetle license, I feel like if Takara Tomy was able to negotiate for Jazz (and Cliffjumper) at the time they would have and we'd already have him. Maybe the majority-owner said fine, take the Bug license, but Porsche is protected?

Emerje

by **Airman343** » Fri Feb 17, 2017 12:23 pm

I'd like to see galleries of the go-bots/spy changers, especially those two that weren't produced (the mercedes-benz and hound)

by **Deathsanras** » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:30 am

Everything since Delta Magnus:
• MP-32 Convoy (Optimus Primal)
• MP-33 Inferno
• MP-34 Cheetus (Cheetor)
• MP-35 Grapple
• MP-11NR Ramjet
• MP-11NT Thrust
• MP-10K Convoy (BAPE Black Camo Ver.)
• Masterpiece Shattered Glass Optimus Prime

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:32 am

Galleries for Megatronia and her components would be awesome.

News Credits: 191 · by **Kurona** » Wed Mar 08, 2017 12:06 pm

The mainline releases in TR and RiD that haven't been covered yet.

Yeah, I know that's very basic, but I'd still love to see some professional photography of them especially to make pedantic points on redundant internet arguments

by **Deathsanras** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 2:47 am

Platinum Edition G1-deco Age of Extinction Dinobots (new heads).

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:55 am

The stickered versions of the toys that Fun Pub made special sticker sheets for at the end of last December.

by **Deathsanras** » Thu Apr 13, 2017 2:44 pm

Anything, if it breaks the current drought.

News Credits: 33 · by **Amelie** » Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:01 pm

Titan Returns Rodimus and Kupp having a demolition derby with several Gnaws.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:39 pm

Deathsanras wrote:Anything, if it breaks the current drought.

There is a very specific reason for that...

by **Jason5billion** » Sun Apr 30, 2017 7:34 pm

A Transformer with a brand new name and a ten changer would be nice. I know they've had a ten changer Megatron, but that was a long time ago.

Here's something they could do on shows and comic books but never in stores, and that's a Transformer named 5 Billion that would have 5 billion modes. Even with cartoons and comics, they would never get to all 5 billion modes within one person's lifetime.
God bless, Jason Scott Irelan

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sat May 27, 2017 8:49 am

I would like to see galleries of Titans Return Hot Rod, Titans Return Kup, Titans Return Kickback, Titans Return Bumblebee, Titans Return Roadburn, Titans Return Gnaw, Titans Return Triggerhappy, Titans Return Krok, Titans Return Octane, Titans Return Sixshot, Nautica, and THS-02 Galaxy Convoy (including comparison with Legends Cybertron Optimus and Supreme Starscream).

I would also like to see additions to some existing galleries. Specifically:
* Titans Return Blurr riding on both G1 Ultra Magnus and Combiner Wars Ultra Magnus
* Cybertron Leader-class Optimus Prime with his Super Mode transformed properly

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:51 am

I'd like to see galleries of all the Fox Kids Beast Wars redecos, complete with comparison pics of their respective mold mates. ;)^

by **ZeldaTheSwordsman** » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:34 pm

This isn't a request for a new gallery, per se, but rather a request for an existing gallery to be added to another category.

I think Hotwire needs to be added to the Masterforce gallery category. Joyride is there, so why has Hotwire been overlooked?

News Credits: 3 · by **Bradimus** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:00 am

I'd like to see all the Titan Master class figures that have not been covered yet, especially Sawback and Shuffler. Although I already have them I'm not the best photographer and I would like to be able to share picures of their animal heads with my cousin so he can better appreciate what Hasbro has done. I'd also like to see the upcoming new Titan Master class figures as well when they become available, in particular Ramhorn for the same reason mentioned above.

Thank you.

by **Stealth Claw** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:25 am

I'd love to see UW Devy and the Constructicons, maybe side by side shots of each version of the figures.

News Credits: 3600 · by **Seibertron** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:42 am

So after a 9 to 10 month hiatus from galleries, I decided that I wanted to do my return differently than I had been doing it. Seibertron.com survived without me doing galleries of the latest toys during that period, so I decided that I'm going to do a reverse of what I've been doing, at least for a little white.

For too long, I have put off older figures in lieu of working on galleries of newer figures. For the time being, I'm going to take this time to knock out some galleries that are sorely absent. Titans Return Trypticon led me to working on galleries for G1 Trypticon, which led me to Platinum Trypticon, to Encore Metroplex (and G1 Metroplex in a couple of weeks when I get a new set of stickers for mine), to Beast Wars II Gigastorm.

Gigastorm left me at a crossroads though. While I've done about 1/2 of the Beast Wars II figures, there was another half that I had long ignored. So I decided to do Gigastorm's gallery right and pull out all of the Beast Wars II figures, including the ones I had never done like Scuba (and Claw Jaw), Apache, Megastorm, Tako Tank, Diver and the Niagara Base, the Insectrons, and so on. At least a couple of those galleries were started back in 2007 but never finished. It's time to just finish all of those galleries and be done with them.

Once finished photographing those toys (hopefully later this week, though it will take longer to crop and post them all), I keep thinking this might be the perfect time to do Titans Return Sixshot and Quickswitch, along with their various G1 counterparts (Six Shot, Quickswitch, Greatshot, Sixknight, and both Sixshot reissues).

After that, I keep pondering that it might be fun to do nothing but Optimus Prime and Bumblebee galleries for a little while. I've photographed about 270 Optimus Prime toys and about 170 Bumblebee toys so far. How many more could I do before I run out of figures of them that I haven't done yet? I could probably do another 50 of each and still not be done with all of them.

Just kind of an update on where I am with galleries at the moment.

In the meantime ...

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Mon Aug 21, 2017 4:33 pm

As I recently completed watching all of Beast Wars Second subbed in English for the first time (and have slowly begun a re-watch of it), the prospect of more galleries for the Beast Wars Second toys excites me. ;)^

News Credits: 3600 · by **Seibertron** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:23 pm

I'm still working on the remaining BWII galleries. Today I worked on the Insectrons, Diver, Scuba, and all of their Hasbro Beast Wars counterparts today. Currently downloading the almost 1,000 photos I took today. Didn't realize I had taken that many photos!

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 10:29 pm

Seibertron wrote:I'm still working on the remaining BWII galleries. Today I worked on the Insectrons, Diver, Scuba, and all of their Hasbro Beast Wars counterparts today. Currently downloading the almost 1,000 photos I took today. Didn't realize I had taken that many photos!

Can't wait to see Scuba's gallery. I hope there's a bunch of pics of him driving the Tako Tank (since Ikard merely delivered it to Scuba). :DANCE: