The Energon Pub

News Credits: 273 · by **Delicon** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:23 pm

There are many. I think the Titanium line despite some of its faults actually produced a few very nice figures.

My favorites are...

Hotzone - I never bought the GDO Hotspot because this was a far better figure to me.
Scourge - I had the Classicsverse Scourge and the BotCon one also but this was the best of the 3.
WW Megatron - Even though this is a "Cybertronian" form his robo mode is a much better G1 look than almost any other Megatron.
The Seekers - Some were better than others, Starscream and Thundercracker were kinda duds in robot mode due to coloring issues. The Skywarp and Sunstorm were top notch, though. Very cool vehicle molds for all.
Soundwave - The transformable Lazerbeak is a nice bonus on such a small figure.
Rodimus Prime - I love this one. He leads my post-86 movie Autobots on my shelf.
Ultra Magnus - A lot of thought went into this toy, much more than his plain white classics counterpart.

News Credits: 1 · by **leakin' lubricant** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 11:00 am

Shadowstream wrote:Can't state enough times how I love the Classics Voyager Leader molds, which may not be underrated per say, but given how most collectors around here tend to replace both of them with those made by failworld toyworld, I do get the sense that they are really unpopular. Megatron I can understand, the wings and nerf gun transformation are off-putting at first glance, but to me the wings at least add a certain flare to an otherwise straightforward and predictable body shape, not to mention a face that doesn't look like an incontinent old man. Same goes for Classics Prime in most respects. The arm panels I think really add to the silhouette, and give a certain vibe toward his tough but defensive nature. Between Hegemon being about as boring looking as Megatron has ever been and Orion being a fat disproportionate mess, topped off with how undeniably crap the recently revealed Generations figures are, I think those two molds will be standing at the forefront of my collection for a long time to come.

CLASSICS VOYAGERS 4EVER!

I agree with this whole heartedly, I also dislike how the Toyworld offerings are replacing these fine molds, I boughts these upon their release and am yet to find a figure that can beat them, admittidly I did replace Classics Megs with the United repaint, which I feel is the best looking Megatron I have ever seen.

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:19 pm

leakin' lubricant wrote:I agree with this whole heartedly, I also dislike how the Toyworld offerings are replacing these fine molds, I boughts these upon their release and am yet to find a figure that can beat them, admittidly I did replace Classics Megs with the United repaint, which I feel is the best looking Megatron I have ever seen.

i like toyworld quite a bit. but for hegemon, i dont really want a perfect G1 representation on my classics shelf. to me thats not what classics is about. and i dont know if classics megs is underated or not, but ive always loved that toy. even its silly purple and orange original. hes just fun to play with. and youre right, united is hands down the best. i had hasbros, then bought henkei. for the longest time i wrote off the united version thinking "bah, ive already got a proper colored megatron". but the united one is quite striking, enough to make me buy him a third time!

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:24 pm

Classics Megs is awesome but I don't think of him as underrated. There is a thread on best Transformer toys by design and his name keeps coming up.

There is one figure though that I seem to be the only champion for: Animated Lockdown.

He is not said to be bad but no-one really cares much for the guy. Or even that whole toyline while we are at it (especially now that no one will use that arcee as a stand in). But to me it is the Toyline with the most ingenius designs and engineering. I love how most of them seem like non transforming figures either in their robot or car modes and I love how the exagerated cartoon design is replicated in the toys. Leader Megatron is so simple to transform and yet bot his modes look like finished figures with minimal kibble from either mode.

And my favourite of that line is Lockdown, by far.

by **Shadowstream** » Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:10 pm

I find United Megs to be too plain for my liking and Classics Megs to be too fabulous, whereas Henkei Megatron hits a sweet middle ground of not being too much of one or the other. I'd still like to have the United one just for the sake of having all three, but... eh, some other time. As for Toyworld's Orion... well I've stated my opinion about that ill-proportioned mess so many times I don't see any reason to repeat myself here.
Actually I will: That stupid POS can only compete with energon fatumis prime, and I still think that was completely Toyworld's fault for screwing up an otherwise perfectly good design, and not that the design simply couldn't work in plastic form any other way.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:28 am

william-james88 wrote:Classics Megs is awesome but I don't think of him as underrated. There is a thread on best Transformer toys by design and his name keeps coming up.

There is one figure though that I seem to be the only champion for: Animated Lockdown.

He is not said to be bad but no-one really cares much for the guy. Or even that whole toyline while we are at it (especially now that no one will use that arcee as a stand in). But to me it is the Toyline with the most ingenius designs and engineering. I love how most of them seem like non transforming figures either in their robot or car modes and I love how the exagerated cartoon design is replicated in the toys. Leader Megatron is so simple to transform and yet bot his modes look like finished figures with minimal kibble from either mode.

And my favourite of that line is Lockdown, by far.

I'm a big fan of that line as well, want both Lockdowns for my collection, also want RotF Lockdown.

Found a new fave figure of mine, the Jet Drone from the BM line. I know it's not very accurate, but its fun to play with.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 8:20 am

ZeroWolf wrote:And my favourite of that line is Lockdown, by far.

I'm a big fan of that line as well, want both Lockdowns for my collection, also want RotF Lockdown.

Found a new fave figure of mine, the Jet Drone from the BM line. I know it's not very accurate, but its fun to play with.[/quote]

I want that RotF Lockdown too, but that price is high and tells me that it cant be that underrated.
And I also love the Jet Drone. The transformation is great and he has a show accurate mode for his legs. Also, his colors work well for a more show accurate Jetstorm.

Shadowstream wrote:Actually I will: That stupid POS can only compete with energon fatumis prime, and I still think that was completely Toyworld's fault for screwing up an otherwise perfectly good design, and not that the design simply couldn't work in plastic form any other way.

Out of curiosity, I looked up what Orion looked like (I only collect Hasbro due to budget (and legitimacy, but thats just an excuse for lack of budget)). I could not believe that was a third party's attempt at an "accurate" Optimus. I have no clue how he would work with anyone's collection or what purpose that toy serves. Maybe as a classics figure, but even then we have Classics Optimus who is cheaper and has a better chest. And that chest, what is going on there? What are they trying to do?

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 1:35 pm

william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:And my favourite of that line is Lockdown, by far.

I'm a big fan of that line as well, want both Lockdowns for my collection, also want RotF Lockdown.

Found a new fave figure of mine, the Jet Drone from the BM line. I know it's not very accurate, but its fun to play with.

I want that RotF Lockdown too, but that price is high and tells me that it cant be that underrated.

I'm still looking for Animated Lockdown.

It's clearly a well liked one, because eBay prices are silly.

But I am very much in love with the RotF one, and definitely not underrated at all.

News Credits: 650 · by **ScottyP** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:08 pm

Va'al wrote:
I'm still looking for Animated Lockdown.
It's clearly a well liked one, because eBay prices are silly.

Once in a blue moon the vintage shop near me gets a loose one and marks it at like, $8. I'll keep an eye out, sir! I owe you one.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:27 pm

ScottyP wrote:
Va'al wrote:
I'm still looking for Animated Lockdown.
It's clearly a well liked one, because eBay prices are silly.

Once in a blue moon the vintage shop near me gets a loose one and marks it at like, $8. I'll keep an eye out, sir! I owe you one.

The prices are only crazy for MISB. You can find loose complete ones for standard deluxe prices. Like this for instance: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transformers-Animated-deluxe-Lockdown-100-Complete-with-Instructions-/191240980353?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item2c86d9c781

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 3:04 pm

william-james88 wrote:
ScottyP wrote:
Va'al wrote:
I'm still looking for Animated Lockdown.
It's clearly a well liked one, because eBay prices are silly.

Once in a blue moon the vintage shop near me gets a loose one and marks it at like, $8. I'll keep an eye out, sir! I owe you one.

The prices are only crazy for MISB. You can find loose complete ones for standard deluxe prices. Like this for instance: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Transformers-Animated-deluxe-Lockdown-100-Complete-with-Instructions-/191240980353?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item2c86d9c781

'May not ship to United Kingdom.' :-(

News Credits: 7 · by **Noideaforaname** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 4:30 pm

This guy:

Injector was my "holy grail" as a kid, which I never got since I was more into Jurassic Park at the time. I adore his goofy Giger-esque ugliness.

The Fuzors as a whole are my most beloved group of TFs:

Unsurprisingly, I was obsessed with "spliced" monsters as a kid.

PCCs are another "why does everyone hate them?" group of figures, though they've gotten a fair amount of support later on.

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:04 pm

Noideaforaname wrote:INJECTOR!

I love Injector as well. Enough to have him both loose and sealed.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:32 pm

PCC advocate right here!

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:50 pm

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Noideaforaname wrote:INJECTOR!

I love Injector as well. Enough to have him both loose and sealed.

I have the Japanese version: Rātorāta. Love him

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:58 pm

also fell in love with the fuzors, though I've not got many of their number so far, but I love sky shadow, took me ages to find his 'real' right hand :lol:

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Jul 29, 2014 7:05 pm

ahh! you know who i just thought of?

beast wars transmetal 2 scourge. hes got strange legs and lotsa kibble, but theres a lot of great stuff. his wings are broken up and kinda hollow, which hold his missile things and they look really cool. the missile things double as melee weapons and he looks pretty good wielding them. i also always liked his color palette. the orange chrome is quite nice.

just the overall feel of the figure... hes creepy! reminds me of tarantulas.

News Credits: 1 · by **MightyMagnus78** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 1:07 am

AOE Slash, can't believe the hate he gets. Dino-mode is spot on, he's got an ingenious transformation and he looks badass in robot mode. Sure he has a little kibble and his articulation is limited but the same could be said of many TF's, some of which seem to receive 'iconic' status. :saint:

News Credits: 273 · by **Delicon** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 4:41 pm

Classics Megatron? Really? I have never been so happy to sell off a transformer in my life...he's a serious insult to the character. I was glad to see they were finally coming out with a deserving figure.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:16 pm

Delicon wrote:Classics Megatron? Really? I have never been so happy to sell off a transformer in my life...he's a serious insult to the character. I was glad to see they were finally coming out with a deserving figure.

Which classics Megatron? Nerf gun or the deluxe tank that came with the deluxe prime mold which was horrible.?

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 5:35 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
Delicon wrote:Classics Megatron? Really? I have never been so happy to sell off a transformer in my life...he's a serious insult to the character. I was glad to see they were finally coming out with a deserving figure.
Which classics Megatron? Nerf gun or the deluxe tank that came with the deluxe prime mold which was horrible.?

i get why nerf megs would be unpopular. silly colors and shell forming, but as i said it didnt bother me. i love that megs. tank megs was the let down for me. stupid spinney gun hand thing... but i actually grew to like that one. i ended up buying the united purple version (misb won on ebay for 9 bucks from a seller i was already buying stuff from) and after having him in hand again, hes not so bad.

News Credits: 273 · by **Delicon** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:26 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
Delicon wrote:Classics Megatron? Really? I have never been so happy to sell off a transformer in my life...he's a serious insult to the character. I was glad to see they were finally coming out with a deserving figure.

Which classics Megatron? Nerf gun or the deluxe tank that came with the deluxe prime mold which was horrible.?

I disliked them both but Nerf Megatron was my target here.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:57 am

Delicon wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Delicon wrote:Classics Megatron? Really? I have never been so happy to sell off a transformer in my life...he's a serious insult to the character. I was glad to see they were finally coming out with a deserving figure.

Which classics Megatron? Nerf gun or the deluxe tank that came with the deluxe prime mold which was horrible.?

I disliked them both but Nerf Megatron was my target here.

See I've been after the henkei! version, the mold doesn't bother me that much, Iqquite like the idea of megs having wings. Though don't get me wrong, I'm getting the new leader one as well. Would of got the armada version if I didn't already have the armada Megatron :lol:

News Credits: 65 · by **Wolfman Jake** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:30 am

ZeroWolf wrote:
Delicon wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Delicon wrote:Classics Megatron? Really? I have never been so happy to sell off a transformer in my life...he's a serious insult to the character. I was glad to see they were finally coming out with a deserving figure.

Which classics Megatron? Nerf gun or the deluxe tank that came with the deluxe prime mold which was horrible.?

I disliked them both but Nerf Megatron was my target here.

See I've been after the henkei! version, the mold doesn't bother me that much, Iqquite like the idea of megs having wings. Though don't get me wrong, I'm getting the new leader one as well. Would of got the armada version if I didn't already have the armada Megatron

I appreciate the wings on Voyager Classics Megatron. They give a bit more credence to his ability to fly around like the rest of the Decepticons. If I picture a flying formation of Decepticons with Megatron and several seekers, it's much easier to imagine his Voyager Classics bot mode cruising along through the air than his G1 robot or worse yet, a giant Nerf gun.

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:46 am

Wolfman Jake wrote:
I appreciate the wings on Voyager Classics Megatron. They give a bit more credence to his ability to fly around like the rest of the Decepticons. If I picture a flying formation of Decepticons with Megatron and several seekers, it's much easier to imagine his Voyager Classics bot mode cruising along through the air than his G1 robot or worse yet, a giant Nerf gun.

But then that would make soundwave the only dufus flying with self propulsion