The Energon Pub

It's probably a prototype of Cloud Optimus

I always figured these were a year of the monkey thing.

The fact that the autobot symbol is silver makes me think that this maybe a test sample for the classics prime that came with evasion mode movie prime. If that is the case, then maybe this redco was dropped before we even had a whiff of the two set.

Another thing to consider, this toy was also found on Weibo

maybe it's a custom job....from the standard figure?

Stuartmaximus wrote:maybe it's a custom job....from the standard figure?

Not a custom, there are too many produced (assembly line style) for it to be that. Click on the link to see the seller's previously sold items and you will see a truckload of this guy.

like how this figure looks not enough for me buy again

Maybe they scrapped it once they realized how many Classics Prime redecos they've made?

Microraptor wrote:Maybe they scrapped it once they realized how many Classics Prime redecos they've made?

Didn't stop the Seekers from happening.

... I had a nightmare once where we got all the seekers, but they were all repaints of a bumblebee mold with the seeker head.

The "factory extras" will want to be changed to "factory quality control rejects" since that's what the seller is actually peddling.

If anyone buys from him/her please be very aware they use the same stock picture for all their auctions for an item, what you see *may* be the quality level of what you get, but very likely not. They also do not list the defects for each individual auction, if they say anything about what is wrong with the item at all.

Kyleor wrote:The "factory extras" will want to be changed to "factory quality control rejects" since that's what the seller is actually peddling.

If anyone buys from him/her please be very aware they use the same stock picture for all their auctions for an item, what you see *may* be the quality level of what you get, but very likely not. They also do not list the defects for each individual auction, if they say anything about what is wrong with the item at all.

There is a feedback thread for Lena. It's a mixed bag but as a customer I can say that many times it is in fact company extras and NOT failed QC. Here are the folowing figures that I can give my seal of aproval that have no defect whatsoever compared to the released versions:

MP Megatron
Legends Gelshark
Cloud Shockwave
Gen Tankor
Legends Tankor (bought for 6$ each shipping included!!!!!!!!!!)
Gen Roadbuster
Legends Whirl
Special edition clear gen roller
Universe Motromaster
TF Expo Exclusive MP Sideswipe (the mistake here was the name on the exclusive sticker sheet, but the toy is perfect Woohoo!)

A few weeks ago, we were made aware of an upcoming Platinum Planet of Junk set that would be around the 80$ price range. Theories were abound. Was it a reissue of some G1 Wreck Gar molds with some novelties? Or a reissue of the RTS Wreck Gar mold? Or a Combiner made up of a bunch of Deluxe Groove redecos? Or to take the title literally, a combiner made up of Motormaster and 4 redecos of Breakdown?

Well, thanks to Cybertron Philippines we now know that it is he following:
Wreck-Gar as a redeco of Reveal the Shield Wreck-Gar
Autobot Hot Rod (NOT "Rodimus") as a redeco of Classics Rodimus
Junkion Scrapheap as a redeco of e-HOBBY United Scrapheap

About Rodimus, it should be noted that he is called Hot Rod again. Lastly, be sure to check out the new 30th Movie Anniversary logo found on the box pictured below. This is the first time we have seen this logo being used and it would hint that it will be used on other sets and toys throughout the year.

Let us know what you think in the discussion!





Fellow Seibertronian Sabreblade helped us by jotting down the writing found on the box:

PLANET OF JUNK CLASH

WRECK-GAR and the Junkions aren't easy to understand - they speak in scattered phrases learned from Earth TV signals - but they're fiercely protective of their planet and the scrap piles that cover it. When the Autobots arrive, the Junkions come out weapons swinging. Before things get ugly, AUTOBOT HOT ROD ends the battle not with a bang, but with a bah-weep-granah weep ni ni bong.

WRECK-GAR

The Junkion leader wants to make sure the (something) AUTOBOT visitors get mud in their eye, by-and-by. Film at 11:00.

The text is too blurry to tell what that word is, but it looks like "snoopy" or "speedy".

AUTOBOT HOT ROD

Uses the TRANSFORMERS' universal greeting and instantly turns the Junkions from enemies to allies.

JUNKION SCRAPHEAP

When your leader speaks only in phrases learned from Earth TV, the battle plan may sound a bit unusual.

Depending on price and availability I may have to get this. I'm lacking a good rodimus and always wanted wreck gar

I could go for scrapheap just by himself. He's different enough all on his own.

It's too bad it didn't redeco the old Universe Hound mould as Detrius, I'd have bought it then.

Super cool for anyone who is missing these guys.
Also slightly tempting from an Army Building perspective.
Decos look nice, but do Rod's yellow legs look a tad funky?
Gotta wonder if anything was done about the handle bar issue on the moto-cicles.

Scrap Head is OK - Wreck gar is decent upgrade fodder I suppose - Hotrod is oddly decorated but might look interesting in Protector Armour perhaps.

Not the greatest set overall. and yes it is a missed oppurtunity to make the long desired Detritus from Classics Hound... so that is a repaint that the 3rd parties will likely beat Hasbro too using their own MP style Hound moulds.

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Oh and regarding the earlier points I have no objection what so ever with Generation One Mould being used to make "New" Generation One Characters like Road Rage or Crosscut.

I would say however that such reissues (when a new Character) have more right to claim to be G1 toys even if they are released decades later than any toy that specifically resembles a current comic does - and even Botcon toys do simply as it's a matter of style & context.

But context is Important as I would for example offer the distinction of saying Masterpiece Prowl represents and Original Transformers Character (or G1 Character if you prefer) - bit that does not make him a G1 toy - but as I say I have no objection what so over saying Road rage is Generation One any more than I wouldn't have an objection to a 1990's European Copper box reissue being G1 also.

I would however offer the same kind of specific distinction between Character and Toyline to a whole host of other product like Q-Robo, Alternity, Binaltech/Alternators and so on.

I would also totally count Japanese G1 as an acceptable thing to Call Generation One even if it's not the same continuity as Western Transformers exactly because of context again. However I would be careful with my terminology when describing IDW Comics as that is so unlike the original Universe in so many ways that frankly it sort of "Breaks" the premise and can't so easily be said to be more than something that is "Based On G1" or to put it another way I legitimately feel IDW as a Universe is further away from "Original Transformers" in some cases than Kiss Players is.

Why.. ? well it has to do with Characterisation - they change the personalities and when you do that what you are making becomes more of a re-imagining than a simple "other take" on a situation. but also the Context - if the Lost Light was the Ark say then you have a stronger argument for the Pro-G1 interpretation but the more differences you add the more it drifts away.

In conclusion IDW is another type of Transformers story loosely based on G1 just as Transformers Energon or Transformers Animated is. .. it may however be a closer relative than Transformers Prime is though in some ways but I can't condone it being called "Generation One" in any way that suggests it's interchangable with the 1980s content, or product directly derived from the 1980's content (like Road Rage).

two bikes and a car!....hmmm....i'd really have to see video reviews of these before i decided to buy when they no doubt will eventually appear on store shelves here in the UK seeing as we've already had aĺl the recent previous Platinum Editions here anyway.


the only downside of having those on store shelves in the UK is that like with the previous Platinum Editions here in the UK to begin with.........went for silly money(hiked prices) which'll no doubt be the case with these!

RAR wrote:Scrap Head is OK - Wreck gar is decent upgrade fodder I suppose - Hotrod is oddly decorated but might look interesting in Protector Armour perhaps.

Not the greatest set overall. and yes it is a missed oppurtunity to make the long desired Detritus from Classics Hound... so that is a repaint that the 3rd parties will likely beat Hasbro too using their own MP style Hound moulds.

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Oh and regarding the earlier points I have no objection what so ever with Generation One Mould being used to make "New" Generation One Characters like Road Rage or Crosscut.

I would say however that such reissues (when a new Character) have more right to claim to be G1 toys even if they are released decades later than any toy that specifically resembles a current comic does - and even Botcon toys do simply as it's a matter of style & context.

But context is Important as I would for example offer the distinction of saying Masterpiece Prowl represents and Original Transformers Character (or G1 Character if you prefer) - bit that does not make him a G1 toy - but as I say I have no objection what so over saying Road rage is Generation One any more than I wouldn't have an objection to a 1990's European Copper box reissue being G1 also.

I would however offer the same kind of specific distinction between Character and Toyline to a whole host of other product like Q-Robo, Alternity, Binaltech/Alternators and so on.

I would also totally count Japanese G1 as an acceptable thing to Call Generation One even if it's not the same continuity as Western Transformers exactly because of context again. However I would be careful with my terminology when describing IDW Comics as that is so unlike the original Universe in so many ways that frankly it sort of "Breaks" the premise and can't so easily be said to be more than something that is "Based On G1" or to put it another way I legitimately feel IDW as a Universe is further away from "Original Transformers" in some cases than Kiss Players is.

Why.. ? well it has to do with Characterisation - they change the personalities and when you do that what you are making becomes more of a re-imagining than a simple "other take" on a situation. but also the Context - if the Lost Light was the Ark say then you have a stronger argument for the Pro-G1 interpretation but the more differences you add the more it drifts away.

In conclusion IDW is another type of Transformers story loosely based on G1 just as Transformers Energon or Transformers Animated is. .. it may however be a closer relative than Transformers Prime is though in some ways but I can't condone it being called "Generation One" in any way that suggests it's interchangable with the 1980s content, or product directly derived from the 1980's content (like Road Rage).

While this is really a topic for another thread, IDW is Gen 1 redux. A lot of characters started out as their G1 selves but ongoing development changed them (aka something the G1 toon never did).

If this is priced around $40 i might have to get it, those are great molds and these iterations look pretty damn good. But if it priced anything above $40 then hell no, its just hasbro taking advantage of dumbass collectors again and i wont support that.

I would be down for this if it weren't for the fact Hot Rod's legs have been saddled with the worst deco i've seen yet.