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News Credits: 650 · by **ScottyP** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:21 am

This is Combiner Wars we're talking about, so it'll be released as Skywarp first

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:22 am

Holy cow! Hasbro had to have known what they were doing when they let the museum put this in their collection!

by **Sigmus Prime** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:23 am

As long as he's mis-transformed, this will be an automatic buy for me. I'm bummed if this means he won't be released using the Leader Thundercracker remold (not soon, anyways), but I do like the Voyager-class size.

He needs poseable fingers.

by **Doubledealer93** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:25 am

finally, a new seeker mold. the classics ones are really showing their age.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:33 am

Whatever it is, I want the whole Seeker affair. Classic Seekers, Coneheads, Rainmakers, all of them. I would buy up every friggin' one.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:37 am

Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?

News Credits: 1 · by **Gauntlet101010** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:38 am

I really, really like the Classic Seeker mould, but I gotta admit it's way too small next to Hegemon and the Autobots. I like this. It actually seems just about right. The right size with the right amount of G1 influence. And the Classics Seekers may not look totally stupid next to him.

I just might be down for seven of these (the main six + Sunstorm). But I'm not going crazy with making another Seeker army.

If the Seeekers are getting an upgrade in size I may need a new Voyager Soundwave (I've stuck with Music Label so far; it looks good next to Classics SS) ...

by **Sigmus Prime** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:42 am

Mindmaster wrote:Whatever it is, I want the whole Seeker affair. Classic Seekers, Coneheads, Rainmakers, all of them. I would buy up every friggin' one.

I salute you, sir.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:43 am

Cobotron wrote:Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?

Why not Generations 2016? Standing next to Brainstorm on that display gives me the sense of a return to pre/post CW stuff. :-?

News Credits: 16 · by **It Is Him** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:43 am

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I really, really like the Classic Seeker mould, but I gotta admit it's way too small next to Hegemon and the Autobots. I like this. It actually seems just about right. The right size with the right amount of G1 influence. And the Classics Seekers may not look totally stupid next to him.

I just might be down for seven of these (the main six + Sunstorm). But I'm not going crazy with making another Seeker army.

If the Seeekers are getting an upgrade in size I may need a new Voyager Soundwave (I've stuck with Music Label so far; it looks good next to Classics SS) ...

FOC Soundwave is used in the comic books. Easily my favorite Generations mold.

News Credits: 41 · by **Cobotron** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:45 am

Va'al wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?

Why not Generations 2016? Standing next to Brainstorm on that display gives me the sense of a return to pre/post CW stuff.

Don't know. Just a hunch. character design looks more like the new RID stuff. He looks very simple. His feet are static.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:49 am

Cobotron wrote:
Va'al wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?

Why not Generations 2016? Standing next to Brainstorm on that display gives me the sense of a return to pre/post CW stuff.
Don't know. Just a hunch. character design looks more like the new RID stuff. He looks very simple. His feet are static.

I don't think we've heard of Starscream showing up in RID, though.
We know Jazz and Drift will, but I think that's about it. :-?

by **Sigmus Prime** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:51 am

No, this looks way too close to his comic book counterpart for it to be from the RID toyline.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:54 am

Are you sure we are talking Combiner Wars here? As in that they actually combine with other figures? I've looked at that Starscream closely, and I see no possible ports anywhere. In fact, I dont see any knee joints, the legs are one solid piece. This leads me to believe that it's an upsized simplified figure, among the likes of Beast Hunters Deluxe Twinstrike and Windrazor. As for "Prowl": Same story, it's a retool of Beast Hunters Simplified Deluxe Smokscreen.

Sorry guys...

by **Sigmus Prime** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:56 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Are you sure we are talking Combiner Wars here? As in that they actually combine with other figures? I've looked at that Starscream closely, and I see no possible ports anywhere. In fact, I dont see any knee joints, the legs are one solid piece. This leads me to believe that it's an upsized simplified figure, among the likes of Beast Hunters Deluxe Twinstrike and Windrazor. As for "Prowl": Same story, it's a retool of Beast Hunters Simplified Deluxe Smokscreen.

Sorry guys...

NO! I refuse to accept your logic!

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:57 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Are you sure we are talking Combiner Wars here? As in that they actually combine with other figures? I've looked at that Starscream closely, and I see no possible ports anywhere. In fact, I dont see any knee joints, the legs are one solid piece. This leads me to believe that it's an upsized simplified figure, among the likes of Beast Hunters Deluxe Twinstrike and Windrazor. As for "Prowl": Same story, it's a retool of Beast Hunters Simplified Deluxe Smokscreen.

Sorry guys...

It's why I'm marking all of these as rumours.

News Credits: 650 · by **ScottyP** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:04 am

The engineering on this makes it look like a CW deluxe. Protos are sometimes oversized perhaps? Could also be an incomplete/canned idea. Hooray for speculation?

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:10 am

ScottyP wrote:The engineering on this makes it look like a CW deluxe. Protos are sometimes oversized perhaps? Could also be an incomplete/canned idea. Hooray for speculation?

Maybe an upscaled Legends toy?

Transformers Generations Starscream Gallery

I'm not sure to what extent prototypes are that much bigger than the final result, to be honest. Not the ones I've seen, at least. :-?

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:10 am

Looking at Starscream again, I think I've identified the "parent" mold of this toy:

Generations Legends Starscream

The transformation matches, and aside from lack of proper knee joints, the addition of missile pods and a blockier design, it's that toy "upsized".

EDIT: Ninja'ed by Va'al. :lol:

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:13 am

Cobotron wrote:Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?

Combinrs Wars Leaders are not combiners so it's not far fetched that this guy is not.

I wich Starscream would return in the new RID series. However, I doubt it because it ended badly for him in Beast Hunters.

by **Sigmus Prime** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:28 am

...

Okay, I want my Leader-class Starscream right now.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:32 am

-Kanrabat- wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?

Combinrs Wars Leaders are not combiners so it's not far fetched that this guy is not.

That prototype is Voyager-sized...

News Credits: 13 · by **OptimalOptimus2** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:34 am

Starscream appears to be in mid-transformation. I'm guessing those are his wings by his waist. :-?

by **Moosey** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:34 am

I don't have an opinion till they share more. For all we know, this could just be an example of how they make toys, showing kids the process of prototypes, sculpting, final product, etc... (this is at that children's museum, right?)

News Credits: 100 · by **-Kanrabat-** » Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:36 am

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Cobotron wrote:Guys, just judging by what I'm looking at, and based on it's construction. I think these might be 2015 RID toys.
Wheres the combiner peg?

Combinrs Wars Leaders are not combiners so it's not far fetched that this guy is not.

That prototype is Voyager-sized...

I know. I should have added that voyeger combiner wars figures are a thing. Just take a look a cyclonus, remold/repaint of Brainstorm.