orangeitis wrote:Hope Hasbro makes a better mold of him in the future. That sounds horrifying.
Not western children, no. More children in this country seem to lack decent parenting. That coupled with certain groups focusing more on censoring and building rules around the things hurting the children, rather than encouraging their parents to discipline them better causes us to get the short end of the stick when it comes to... well anything, really. And by "us", I'm not talking about only adults. The smart, disciplined kids are suffering from it too.Gearslide wrote:It doesn't feel like the figure was designed with children in mind.
orangeitis wrote:Hope Hasbro makes a better mold of him in the future. That sounds horrifying.
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
First of all, opinion may differ on all of them, not just ol' CJ there. Second, the FEs are originally Hasbro's too. And what else is Hasbro's? CHUGs, the figures from the movie trilogy, the Animated line... their track record is just as good as it is bad IMO. I don't see how there's more of a chance of Hasbro making a crappier figure.PrimeStriker wrote:orangeitis wrote:Hope Hasbro makes a better mold of him in the future. That sounds horrifying.
.....Have you not seen what Hasbro does to molds already made? Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Bulkhead, Starscream, and (opinion may differ here) Cliffjumper all suffer from being worse than their original molds. Hasbro is more than likely to screw it up than fix it.
orangeitis wrote:First of all, opinion may differ on all of them, not just ol' CJ there. Second, the FEs are originally Hasbro's too. And what else is Hasbro's? CHUGs, the figures from the movie trilogy, the Animated line... their track record is just as good as it is bad IMO. I don't see how there's more of a chance of Hasbro making a crappier figure.PrimeStriker wrote:orangeitis wrote:Hope Hasbro makes a better mold of him in the future. That sounds horrifying.
.....Have you not seen what Hasbro does to molds already made? Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Bulkhead, Starscream, and (opinion may differ here) Cliffjumper all suffer from being worse than their original molds. Hasbro is more than likely to screw it up than fix it.
Actually Hasbro DID release Breakdown here in the states... Cyberverse Breakdown. And if you're talking about the same mold, well we weren't.Autobot032 wrote:Hasbro isn't releasing Breakdown here, so it's a moot point, really. And Hasbro's toys are getting thinner and cheaper in terms of quality. No reason to be tooting Hasbro's horn. I bought FOC Jazz today and it feels like junk.
orangeitis wrote:Actually Hasbro DID release Breakdown here in the states... Cyberverse Breakdown. And if you're talking about the same mold, well we weren't.
orangeitis wrote:And so what about FoC Jazz? He disappointed me too, but the Shockwave I bought with him didn't. It don't matter either way though, liking or disliking either is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
orangeitis wrote:I just said that I hope Hasbro releases a better Breakdown mold. I know Hasbro said they aren't bringing that particular mold over here, but that's not what I want, I want a brand-new mold. And since Cyberverse Breakdown is out over here, you can't say we aren't getting a Breakdown at all.
Autobot032 wrote:Wow. You surely do have an argumentative streak in you the size of Texas. Good grief.
It's your opinion that Cyberverse Breakdown is pointless. And you are talking about the existing Voyager. I was not. I want a new Voyager mold for Breakdown. One that don't break when he falls down.Autobot032 wrote:orangeitis wrote:Actually Hasbro DID release Breakdown here in the states... Cyberverse Breakdown. And if you're talking about the same mold, well we weren't.
First of all, bringing up Cyberverse/Legends Breakdown is pointless. He's not the figure we're speaking of. We're talking about the Voyager. You know it, I know it, we all know it, now you're just reaching for the sake of doing so.
Yes, it is irrelevant. This is about Breakdown, not Jazz.Autobot032 wrote:orangeitis wrote:And so what about FoC Jazz? He disappointed me too, but the Shockwave I bought with him didn't. It don't matter either way though, liking or disliking either is irrelevant to the topic at hand.
...irrelevant? If a figure breaks due to subpar construction and materials quality, it's going to lead to disliking the figure. Plenty of people, myself included, in this thread, like the figure. If we didn't like it, we wouldn't own it. If it wasn't relevant, there wouldn't be a justified complaint about the figure breaking. (If one doesn't give a damn, they're certainly not going to post a thread about the figure.)
It's irrelevant that your forgot that the Cyberverse version of Breakdown existed, and it is merely your opinion that "Hasbro's offering" is unimportant, or that "TakaraTomy gave us the real deal figure, not some cheapass attempt.". You're welcome to your opinion about it, but your opinion holds no weight when presented to someone else in an argument.Autobot032 wrote:orangeitis wrote:I just said that I hope Hasbro releases a better Breakdown mold. I know Hasbro said they aren't bringing that particular mold over here, but that's not what I want, I want a brand-new mold. And since Cyberverse Breakdown is out over here, you can't say we aren't getting a Breakdown at all.
Oh, for goodness sake. You're really going to go THAT far? "You can't say we don't, cuz we do. Even though it's not the figure we're talking about. Even though I'm bringing it up for no good reason. You still can't say it, because some form of him does exist. Etc, etc, etc..."
You know why I didn't mention the Cyberverse? I forgot it existed. The dang thing is so ridiculous, so small, such a letdown to the name Breakdown, it's completely forgotten. I didn't mention it because I truly and honestly forgot that it existed. That's how unimportant Hasbro's offering has been to me. TakaraTomy gave us the real deal figure, not some cheapass attempt.
Okay, technically you CAN say it, but it would be wrong. And about your opinion, see above.Autobot032 wrote:So, yeah, I can say we're not getting a Breakdown at all. Some people like Cyberverse. Some people prefer the full sized figures. I'm one of the many who prefer the real deal. It's factual that Breakdown was released here as a Cyberverse. It's my opinion (and quite a few share it) that it's a pointless figure and therefore doesn't matter.
Yes, I can judge the toy without holding it in my hands if enough evidence suggests that I would dislike it. And several cases of it breaking, and even more of it being brittle makes me dislike it.Autobot032 wrote:And you want a new Breakdown mold? Seriously? Until you've held the TakaraTomy figure in your hands, you can't make a fair judgment. Lemme tell ya, that figure is A+, F.E. quality, all the way. (Well, almost all the way. The plastic is too darn thin. But, aside from the plastic, the rest of him is Ah-Maze-Ing.)
Same to you. If you quote me implying that your opinion takes precedent over mine, I'm gonna have to respond telling you that it doesn't.Autobot032 wrote:You are welcome to your opinion, but remember that this is a public forum and when you voice your opinion for all to see, someone's going to respond. Whether it's positive or negative, they're going to respond. I personally don't agree with your opinion.
But I don't share your opinion that Hasbro sucks, so why would I do that?Autobot032 wrote:"So what about FoC Jazz?"
That's the kind of thinking that lets Hasbro get away with giving us crap. No matter how much of a fan you are, even you could be on the side that says "Okay, Hasbro. You've done it. I'm done. You suck." And if we keep letting them do this, if we say nothing, then that's the path we'll go down before it's all said and done.
When even TakaraTomy, well known for it's catering to the collector fan base, cuts corners and uses thinner plastic, well, that's a sign the times they are a-changin' and not for the better.
njb902 wrote:the engineering of the toy is great, it's just the darn plastic. I even like his micron, can't say the same for the rest of the takara line. so beef up the plastic and get us one stateside I can trust my neice to play with.
orangeitis wrote:it is merely your opinion that "Hasbro's offering" is unimportant, or that "TakaraTomy gave us the real deal figure, not some cheapass attempt.". You're welcome to your opinion about it, but your opinion holds no weight when presented to someone else in an argument.
I didn't say his opinion was wrong at all, especially in the section you've quoted.Cyber Bishop wrote:Uh his opinion is not wrong, it is his opinion. Plz read the post I made about opinions..orangeitis wrote:it is merely your opinion that "Hasbro's offering" is unimportant, or that "TakaraTomy gave us the real deal figure, not some cheapass attempt.". You're welcome to your opinion about it, but your opinion holds no weight when presented to someone else in an argument.
And with all due respect Mr. admin, I'm tired of hearing about them when I'm apparently not doing anything wrong. If I did do something that you deem wrong, then just cast the mod hammer at me and get it over with. If I haven't done anything wrong, then maybe you should look toward those frivolous PMs you're getting, rather than me.Cyber Bishop wrote:I am tired of PM's complaints about you..
Autobot032 wrote:orangeitis wrote:First of all, opinion may differ on all of them, not just ol' CJ there. Second, the FEs are originally Hasbro's too. And what else is Hasbro's? CHUGs, the figures from the movie trilogy, the Animated line... their track record is just as good as it is bad IMO. I don't see how there's more of a chance of Hasbro making a crappier figure.PrimeStriker wrote:orangeitis wrote:Hope Hasbro makes a better mold of him in the future. That sounds horrifying.
.....Have you not seen what Hasbro does to molds already made? Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Bulkhead, Starscream, and (opinion may differ here) Cliffjumper all suffer from being worse than their original molds. Hasbro is more than likely to screw it up than fix it.
Hasbro isn't releasing Breakdown here, so it's a moot point, really. And Hasbro's toys are getting thinner and cheaper in terms of quality. No reason to be tooting Hasbro's horn. I bought FOC Jazz today and it feels like junk.
And I just PMed you back. I clearly explained that have never ever asserted that only my opinion matters, and I have never ever argued with subjective opinion over objective facts. It is my principle as a rationalist and a skeptic to argue with only facts, try to help others when I feel that they aren't, and correct my arguments when I am found to be wrong.Cyber Bishop wrote:Mr. orangeitis I replied to your PM (and was hit with a few telling me what you posted here)... And since you blurted this out in public then I will blurt this out, You need to respect others opinions instead of constantly arguing and making others feel that your opinion is the only one that matters.
Last warning.
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