Rodimus Prime wrote:Also, watching the film made me decide to sell my RoTF Jet Convoy figure...
RhA wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Also, watching the film made me decide to sell my RoTF Jet Convoy figure...
Them be fightin' words.
Rodimus Prime wrote:...and I must say, it's really not as bad as I remembered. I used to watch it just for the action scenes, and I would skip all the bull crap. But watching it from start to finish, the only things irked me were the juvenile stunts, such as the dogs humping, Wheelie's leg humping, and Devastator ballz.
I still think the other 2 films are better, and I still think Megan Fox is more attractive than Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. Even if she overdid the collagen in her lips.
Also, watching the film made me decide to sell my RoTF Jet Convoy figure...
Capt.Failure wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:...and I must say, it's really not as bad as I remembered. I used to watch it just for the action scenes, and I would skip all the bull crap. But watching it from start to finish, the only things irked me were the juvenile stunts, such as the dogs humping, Wheelie's leg humping, and Devastator ballz.
I still think the other 2 films are better, and I still think Megan Fox is more attractive than Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. Even if she overdid the collagen in her lips.
Also, watching the film made me decide to sell my RoTF Jet Convoy figure...
Sorta makes all the rage about the film silly, doesn't it?
Rodimus Prime wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:...and I must say, it's really not as bad as I remembered. I used to watch it just for the action scenes, and I would skip all the bull crap. But watching it from start to finish, the only things irked me were the juvenile stunts, such as the dogs humping, Wheelie's leg humping, and Devastator ballz.
I still think the other 2 films are better, and I still think Megan Fox is more attractive than Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. Even if she overdid the collagen in her lips.
Also, watching the film made me decide to sell my RoTF Jet Convoy figure...
Sorta makes all the rage about the film silly, doesn't it?
Yeah, it does. Sure, it has flaws, but it's just a movie. Bayverse doesn't define the TF Universe. It just happens to be its most widely distributed continuity. And I like all of Bay's movies, except Pearl Harbor.
Capt.Failure wrote:
Also I agree with you. He makes solid action films but Pearl Harbor was an abomination. However that's entirely blamable on Randal Wallance, the screen writer, who decided to go for making "the next Titanic" to which the studio executives agreed. Bay doesn't have the creative control you might think and when the executives say so his hands are tied.
RotF's problems stem from similar issues, namely the lack of a finished script and executives with no interest in pausing production until the Writer's Strike ended.
There's a reason writers write and directors direct, just look at the Star Wars prequels.
That said RotF is way better than the Star Wars prequels, so yeah.
Rodimus Prime wrote:I thought Episode III was better than RoTF. It was a very well crafted emotional action epic, tying all 6 movies together. The only drawbacks, IMO, were the poopy acting of Hayden Christensen and Ian McDiarmid after he was deformed. The fight between Obi-Wan and Anakin and Yoda and the Emperor was awesome, though it had an abrupt and anti-climactic ending. The only main gripe I have is that after Episode III, I no longer saw Vader as a ruthless galactic badass, but instead as a pathetic, jealous fool who got duped very easily. On the flip side, I really didn't like Yoda in the OS, and after Episodes II and II, I had a lot more respect for him. (When he broke out the green saber in Episode II, I actually cheered out loud in the theater.) I attempted to watch Star Wars (yes, I still call it that, f**k it being "Episode IV") a while after, and I couldn't even finish it, because every time I saw Vader I just shook my head. Haven't watched the movies since.
Capt.Failure wrote:I would also question how you could love a movie that, by your own admittance, retroactively ruined the original trilogy? It's the same with me and that only makes Episode 3 a worse film.
Rodimus Prime wrote:If it wasn't for Megatron's resurrection, his damage in the final battle, and the reference made to Sam being in Egypt, and a few minor details that can be glossed over, you could watch the first film followed by DotM and not miss a beat.
Capt.Failure wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:If it wasn't for Megatron's resurrection, his damage in the final battle, and the reference made to Sam being in Egypt, and a few minor details that can be glossed over, you could watch the first film followed by DotM and not miss a beat.
You're missing the parts were:
a) The Transformers films are more self contained stories than the Star Wars films.
b) Megatron being resurrected, Sam being in Egypt and mentioning being on the FBI's wanted list, the sudden appearance of the Matrix, Megatron's damaged state. These things are not "minor details" and would make no sense if you didn't watch the previous film. DotM was not made with the intent to remove RotF from canon.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:If it wasn't for Megatron's resurrection, his damage in the final battle, and the reference made to Sam being in Egypt, and a few minor details that can be glossed over, you could watch the first film followed by DotM and not miss a beat.
You're missing the parts were:
a) The Transformers films are more self contained stories than the Star Wars films.
b) Megatron being resurrected, Sam being in Egypt and mentioning being on the FBI's wanted list, the sudden appearance of the Matrix, Megatron's damaged state. These things are not "minor details" and would make no sense if you didn't watch the previous film. DotM was not made with the intent to remove RotF from canon.
And you're missing the part where I stated if it wasn't for those details and a few minor details, RoTF could be done without. Why the hell are you being so combative, anyway? I thought we were having a civil discussion. I'm also well aware that DotM wasn't meant to remove RoTF from Bayverse. I'm just saying that aside from the above mentioned details, there's nothing to tie RoTF to DotM. Calm down.
Capt.Failure wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:If it wasn't for Megatron's resurrection, his damage in the final battle, and the reference made to Sam being in Egypt, and a few minor details that can be glossed over, you could watch the first film followed by DotM and not miss a beat.
You're missing the parts were:
a) The Transformers films are more self contained stories than the Star Wars films.
b) Megatron being resurrected, Sam being in Egypt and mentioning being on the FBI's wanted list, the sudden appearance of the Matrix, Megatron's damaged state. These things are not "minor details" and would make no sense if you didn't watch the previous film. DotM was not made with the intent to remove RotF from canon.
And you're missing the part where I stated if it wasn't for those details and a few minor details, RoTF could be done without. Why the hell are you being so combative, anyway? I thought we were having a civil discussion. I'm also well aware that DotM wasn't meant to remove RoTF from Bayverse. I'm just saying that aside from the above mentioned details, there's nothing to tie RoTF to DotM. Calm down.
Considering I'm neither upset, angry, and just making a point I would ask the same of you.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Capt.Failure wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:If it wasn't for Megatron's resurrection, his damage in the final battle, and the reference made to Sam being in Egypt, and a few minor details that can be glossed over, you could watch the first film followed by DotM and not miss a beat.
You're missing the parts were:
a) The Transformers films are more self contained stories than the Star Wars films.
b) Megatron being resurrected, Sam being in Egypt and mentioning being on the FBI's wanted list, the sudden appearance of the Matrix, Megatron's damaged state. These things are not "minor details" and would make no sense if you didn't watch the previous film. DotM was not made with the intent to remove RotF from canon.
And you're missing the part where I stated if it wasn't for those details and a few minor details, RoTF could be done without. Why the hell are you being so combative, anyway? I thought we were having a civil discussion. I'm also well aware that DotM wasn't meant to remove RoTF from Bayverse. I'm just saying that aside from the above mentioned details, there's nothing to tie RoTF to DotM. Calm down.
Considering I'm neither upset, angry, and just making a point I would ask the same of you.
I'm calm. Just pointing your misunderstanding of my post. No biggie.
BeastProwl wrote:I just wish the twins and jolt could have been in DOTM. Having sentinel kill them off would have been more emotionally impacting. That, and all you twin haters would rejoice.
I LIKED THE TWINS!!!
Capt.Failure wrote:BeastProwl wrote:I just wish the twins and jolt could have been in DOTM. Having sentinel kill them off would have been more emotionally impacting. That, and all you twin haters would rejoice.
I LIKED THE TWINS!!!
Honestly this was a complaint for me in DotM. Keeping them in, even if only to die, would have been better than leaving them out.
Though a better route would have been to develop the characters but of course we're talking about the worst screenplay writers in Hollywood at the moment.
Still would have liked more of a battle between Optimus and The Fallen, but Bay was under pressure to finish up filming. Executives have a good way of ruining the potential of the films they bankroll.
Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder, if Prime still had Jetfire at the end of DotM, would he have fared better against Sentinel?
SlyTF1 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder, if Prime still had Jetfire at the end of DotM, would he have fared better against Sentinel?
I'm pretty sure Prime's trailer's "flight tech" was developed from Jetfire's parts.
Rodimus Prime wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:I wonder, if Prime still had Jetfire at the end of DotM, would he have fared better against Sentinel?
I'm pretty sure Prime's trailer's "flight tech" was developed from Jetfire's parts.
Yeah, that's a likely scenario. Even though The Fallen destroyed some of it in their fight. But it seems that with Jetfire's parts he had added strength, whereas the flight tech was just that, flight tech. Nothing else extra.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yeah, makes sense. But, the original question is still to be answered. If he had the flight tech available to him at the end, would he have been able to disarm or even kill Sentinel? It seemed like nothing he threw at Sentinel had any effect, and Sentinel was even able to come back with a (literally) crippling offense.
Silverwing wrote:Also, I feel compelled to give the obligatory:
One for each year of the Movieverse's decade strong tenure. Here's to a few more explosive years!
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