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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:46 pm

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o.supreme wrote:ok...for me at least:

1. Optimus is still a hero, not a "bad guy", despite recent events
2. The phrase Is Till "ALL ARE ONE" not "ARE ALL ONE"...makes him seem somewhat illiterate in an attempt to copy the words from the cover of TF #5

3. Also if Optimus Prime "ARE ALL ONE" is there some sort of multiple personality disorder going on here?? :-?


I don't think grammar has anything to with the art, really - it is just an homage of the Shockwave cover. But hey, to each their own! :D
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Deadput » Wed Nov 02, 2016 4:11 pm

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o.supreme wrote:ok...for me at least:

1. Optimus is still a hero, not a "bad guy", despite recent events
2. The phrase Is Till "ALL ARE ONE" not "ARE ALL ONE"...makes him seem somewhat illiterate in an attempt to copy the words from the cover of TF #5

3. Also if Optimus Prime "ARE ALL ONE" is there some sort of multiple personality disorder going on here?? :-?


1: What about this cover even suggests Optimus is villainous here?

2: Different words for the same thing just like how good and heroic are two different words for the same thing also you do know that a homage is pretty much copying something else right?

If it was "Till all are one" the homage would be lost since "Are All One" is pretty much "All Are Dead" with a different word at the end.

3: It's a cover which almost always has little to nothing to do with the actual plot of the comic there is no personality disorders going on the previous issues would have built up to it if it was the case.


I could say that Megatron poster doesn't work since Megatron is nothing like the joke they have little in common besides being the main bad guy in hero media.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Hydrargyrus » Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:40 pm

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o.supreme wrote:Also if Optimus Prime "ARE ALL ONE" is there some sort of multiple personality disorder going on here?? :-?
It's a cover which almost always has little to nothing to do with the actual plot of the comic there is no personality disorders going on the previous issues would have built up to it if it was the case.


I think Deadput is mentioning how the whole idea looses some value with it saying 'Optimus Prime' instead of 'The Transformers' at the top.

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Emerje » Wed Nov 02, 2016 7:01 pm

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Kurona wrote:"Optimus Prime are all one"
hmmm.


Yeah, great cover, shame it's on the wrong comic.

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Quint » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:59 pm

I don't understand how people are failing to see and / or forgiving this cover's appalling use of English.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

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Quint wrote:I don't understand how people are failing to see and / or forgiving this cover's appalling use of English.

It's been about half of the discussion though? :???:
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Quint » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:03 pm

Kurona wrote:
Quint wrote:I don't understand how people are failing to see and / or forgiving this cover's appalling use of English.

It's been about half of the discussion though? :???:


You've completely missed my point... :lol:
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Starscream » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:53 am

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Sneak Peek - IDW Optimus Prime #1 Preview

Postby Va'al » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:17 am

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Snuck in at the back of the digital version of IDW Publishing's Micronauts #7, we have a lengthy preview of the new title brought to us by the Transformers universe in the post Revolution world: Optimus Prime #1! The pages show a bit of a flashback-y reflection from the Autobot leader on his preceding Prime title-bearers, and some commotions on Earth after yet another alien incursion. Check it out!

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:35 am

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Quite a lot of surprising cameos here. Don't know what the lot in the last few panels are about - though I know we'll find out for sure in the full issue - but Rosanna in the crowd protesting? That's... certainly surprising. Is she being retconned into being male in IDW, because I'm pretty sure the colonies left waaaaaaay before Orion Pax's time. At the very least ages before the war which takes place just after Zeta's rule ends.

Talking of Zeta, nice to see he's got a slight redesign which... well, it still kind of screams "I'M THE BAD GUY" but not quite as loudly as before.

Also, the monsterbots protesting? The most violent Autobots in existence? Huh. Who woulda thunk it.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:41 am

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:43 am

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Art looks good, though are those some new bots showing up in the end? I don't recognize them

One of them looks like one of the Rail Racer guys from RiD 2001
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:47 am

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Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Art looks good, though are those some new bots showing up in the end? I don't recognize them

One of them looks like one of the Rail Racer guys from RiD 2001

Also... is Optimus blue and carrying a tanker trailer?
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:49 am

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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Art looks good, though are those some new bots showing up in the end? I don't recognize them

One of them looks like one of the Rail Racer guys from RiD 2001

Also... is Optimus blue and carrying a tanker trailer?

Pretty sure that's a new guy. I'm kind of getting a G2 Laser Optimus repaint vibe though.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:55 am

Man that art is good! Really channeling some Geoff Senior and Derek Yaniker from G2 on that and Tappet! Outback! Look at all those cameos!!
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Microraptor » Wed Nov 16, 2016 11:57 am

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:01 pm

Kurona wrote:Quite a lot of surprising cameos here. Don't know what the lot in the last few panels are about - though I know we'll find out for sure in the full issue - but Rosanna in the crowd protesting? That's... certainly surprising. Is she being retconned into being male in IDW, because I'm pretty sure the colonies left waaaaaaay before Orion Pax's time. At the very least ages before the war which takes place just after Zeta's rule ends.

Talking of Zeta, nice to see he's got a slight redesign which... well, it still kind of screams "I'M THE BAD GUY" but not quite as loudly as before.

Also, the monsterbots protesting? The most violent Autobots in existence? Huh. Who woulda thunk it.



The time frame for the colonies is a bit messy. The knights left like 12 million years ago and Titans left with them supposedly. Then it was said Titans left during the era of the Primes and the Primes left after them supposedly meeting up with their colony Titans on the planets that were chosen to seed. The Prime tribes existed from 12 millions years ago to 9 million years ago and Nova was in charge for 3 millions years after them.

Again, messy
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:33 pm

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Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Art looks good, though are those some new bots showing up in the end? I don't recognize them

One of them looks like one of the Rail Racer guys from RiD 2001

Also... is Optimus blue and carrying a tanker trailer?

Pretty sure that's a new guy. I'm kind of getting a G2 Laser Optimus repaint vibe though.
See the cab and trailer transforming separately in the next panel? That's Oiler and Slide, who'd be Devisens in this universe.

This preview is just freaking amazing BTW. If having to suffer through Revolution made this happen, it was worth it.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby SG Roadbuster » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:44 pm

Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Art looks good, though are those some new bots showing up in the end? I don't recognize them

One of them looks like one of the Rail Racer guys from RiD 2001

Also... is Optimus blue and carrying a tanker trailer?

Pretty sure that's a new guy. I'm kind of getting a G2 Laser Optimus repaint vibe though.


The train is Railspike (yes from car robots/rid)
The blue Tanker truck is Oiler and the trailer is his partner Slide. they're Micromaster combiners
the car is Roulette
the bigass lobster is Gimlet
the Armadillo is either Armordillo or Bump kinda hard to tell as he's a very reddish orange.
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:01 pm

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SG Roadbuster wrote:
Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Kurona wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Art looks good, though are those some new bots showing up in the end? I don't recognize them

One of them looks like one of the Rail Racer guys from RiD 2001

Also... is Optimus blue and carrying a tanker trailer?

Pretty sure that's a new guy. I'm kind of getting a G2 Laser Optimus repaint vibe though.


The train is Railspike (yes from car robots/rid)
The blue Tanker truck is Oiler and the trailer is his partner Slide. they're Micromaster combiners
the car is Roulette
the bigass lobster is Gimlet
the Armadillo is either Armordillo or Bump kinda hard to tell as he's a very reddish orange.

Well that's just really bloody cool :D
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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:14 pm

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ricemazter » Wed Nov 16, 2016 7:35 pm

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Kurona wrote:Quite a lot of surprising cameos here. Don't know what the lot in the last few panels are about - though I know we'll find out for sure in the full issue - but Rosanna in the crowd protesting? That's... certainly surprising. Is she being retconned into being male in IDW, because I'm pretty sure the colonies left waaaaaaay before Orion Pax's time. At the very least ages before the war which takes place just after Zeta's rule ends.

Talking of Zeta, nice to see he's got a slight redesign which... well, it still kind of screams "I'M THE BAD GUY" but not quite as loudly as before.

Also, the monsterbots protesting? The most violent Autobots in existence? Huh. Who woulda thunk it.



The time frame for the colonies is a bit messy. The knights left like 12 million years ago and Titans left with them supposedly. Then it was said Titans left during the era of the Primes and the Primes left after them supposedly meeting up with their colony Titans on the planets that were chosen to seed. The Prime tribes existed from 12 millions years ago to 9 million years ago and Nova was in charge for 3 millions years after them.

Again, messy


Messy indeed. That whole bit about the thirteen primes uniting Cybertron doesn't really make sense from my recollection. Didn't the thirteen each have his own tribe of Cybertronians separate from one another? Wasn't there then a civil war between them that ended when Galvatron killed Nexus and all the other thirteen left? Does Optimus even know about that? It's strange, but it seems this series can never decide whether the thirteen were good or bad. Nexus wasn't a great guy, and I think it's implied that Onyx wasn't either given that Galvatron was worried about his return.

According to TF wiki Micronus left with his titan, Prion, implying that took place when the primes' scattered after Nexus' death. They say the same thing for Onyx, but that doesn't explain why he left the beast transformers that followed him behind. I dunno, things are weird.
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John Barber on new IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing

Postby Va'al » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:36 pm

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Lost Light is not the only new title coming out from IDW Publishing in the next weeks - as John Barber and Kei Zama join forces for the new Optimus Prime ongoing spinning out of Revolution! Previews World has an interview with ex-editor still-writer and continuity master Barber, which you can read in full here, and snippers are copied below. Optimus Prime as statesman and military leader..?

John Barber: Not to give anything away, but as Revolution starts, Optimus is in a fairly antagonistic relationship with ... well, almost everybody. He’s come to Earth and said the whole planet is going to be part of Cybertron’s Council of World, without asking if the people of Earth wanted to be in it — or if the people of Cybertron wanted them. He’s doing this because he thinks he’s out of options to protect the Earth — he’s tried fighting evil Cybertronians, tried leaving the place alone. But bringing Earth into Cybertron’s fold is the only thing he hasn’t tried.

In Revolution this comes to a head: there’s a big, dangerous thing happening with Ore-13, which is a form of Energon that’s on Earth, and it looks to G.I. Joe like Optimus is behind it, so the threat becomes immediate. This isn’t a spoiler — Optimus is not behind the problem, and in the process of resolving the complex web of Revolution, alliances are formed and new relationships are established.

So...Optimus still has the goal of bringing Earth into the cosmic community of Cybertron. But who’s with him and who’s against him have shifted a bit.

Vince Brusio: How will Optimus’ origin be relayed in this new series? Is there room for the past? Or is the present too busy to spare time for reflection?

John Barber: The first arc goes full-steam-ahead into the present, but there’s a parallel story in pre-war Cybertron, when he was still Orion Pax, before he became Optimus Prime. It’s important for this series to see why Optimus is doing what he’s doing, what’s motivating his actions. He’s not just taking over, and he’s not just being decisive out of nowhere.

There’s a particular point in his life that we haven’t seen that’s really important to how he became Optimus Prime. He has some regrets — there was a war fought between him and Megatron, and that war lasted four million years and destroyed planets — including Cybertron, and very nearly Earth. And the ultimate goal of both sides was sort of the same — both sides were against an evil and corrupt system that had taken over Cybertron.

The first arc is called “New Cybertron,” so the war — and the events that led to it — weigh on Optimus’ every action.

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Because Optimus made such a bold move in annexing Earth, the story was necessarily going to focus on him — or, at the very least, he becomes the axis on which the story pivots. There’s still a big supporting cast — Soundwave, Arcee, Jazz, Victorion, many others; plus the human contingent — but the shadow of Optimus’ actions is so big they can’t help but be pulled into his gravity. We’ll be seeing Optimus through their eyes.


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Timothy Lim Lineart for IDW Optimus Prime #1 RIPT Apparel Variant

Postby Va'al » Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:04 pm

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As for the variant cover for Transformers: Lost Light #1 from IDW Publishing, Ript Apparel have also posted the clean lineart for their Timothy Ninjaink Lim variant for Optimus Prime #1 - with an early version of the writing on the wall (One Shall Stand, instead of final edit Are All One)! Check it out below.

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Re: IDW Optimus Prime Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Halfofme07 » Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:09 pm

All they had to do to make this cover really work is to put a question mark at the end of the phrase, making it, "Are All One?," which would have been fitting. Someone missed an opportunity to make a cover that might have stuck.
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