ZeroWolf wrote:Sanitize them? I call that developing them especially looking at the original goals (something that hasn't changed since origins). Also I take it the one time depiction if the war you mentioned AllNewSuperRobot is the assault at the beginning of the movie? Where megatron is pretty much the only thing killing everyone. I wouldn't use that as an example as that had just one purpose...to clear shelves. After all he didn't prove very effective in the series (neither did galvatron in s3).
Also look at it this way, they fought for over four billion years and no side was actual getting close to winning with both needing energy. It was only through offscreen magic that the cons took over cybertron in the Movie. Now that I think about it, that meant a lot of the people killed by unicrons attack were cons...sucks to be a bad guy don't it.
Well, Megatron was responsible for most of the Autobot Shuttle kills, aside from Prowl. But the Autobot City kills, no. Wheeljack, Windcharger etc was down to others. Sure we can cynically say, as adults, it was just advertising new toys over old ones. In the moment, at the right age however, the death toll of The Movie can't be so easily dismissed as ..aggressive marketing. On an actual battlefront, not even hardened soldiers survive every offensive and the Autobot ranks contained few of those. That's the facts of Season 1 & 2.
And Yes, the whole point of the Autobot Shuttle launch was that Megatron controlled Cybertron, something Optimus never accomplished in Sunbow. Shockwave and the Coneheads were the only visible fatalities of Unicron's assault, alongside the crew of the Junkion ship (did they ever specify who that was?) They weren't all that memorable before the attack, in Sunbow at least.
ZeroWolf wrote:Also you mentioned you didn't like it that gender was introduced well you can just thank season 2 for that one when it introduced us to elita 1 and her group
Indeed and to re-iterate, I preferred G1 Post-Movie and aside from Soundwave, I have no affinity to the cast of Season 1 & 2.
ZeroWolf wrote:All in all it seems like you rather them stick to gen 1 type story telling with easily definable sides, I'm not sure you'll get that as i can see them taking megs the way of magneto who (as I'm sure you're aware) bounced between good and evil. Are you saying tf characters can't be developed like that? We can't see their fears? Their hopes? What they would rather be doing instead of fighting? You mentioned before about how you think they are just people in robot suits now but that's how Furman had them in the 80s and that's what he did with them at the beginning of IDW.
Origin already took Megatron the way of Magneto. That was the first conclusion I took from reading it.
What I took from Transformers was a parable of War and it's escalation. It started with ground level skirmishes, onto Gestalts, to City Bots, to Planet Bots to their very limbs becoming weapons of destruction. A spreading madness across the galaxy, an allegory for the corrupting nature of war itself
As was explored in IDWverse itself from the very beginning there is no good and evil in a Civil War, only collateral damage in the crossfire. The Autobots wrought evil, which was returned upon them through Megatron and his rebellion. Optimus and Megatron are exactly the same in IDW. This was even touched on in the -Ations, where Megatron calls Prime out on his hypocrisy.
So no, I have no interest in the basic 'morality for kids' of G1, because G1 is dead. While I have high regard for The Movie and it's subsequent series, it pales in comparison to Beast Wars. Which arguably presents the most humanised Transformers to date, but doesn't hit you in the face with it by giving you the TF equivalent of West Wing and/or Cheers.
You don't need to force upon them specific human emotions, coping mechanisms and weaknesses to explore character and growth in a sentient robotic alien race. Much as you said writers often discount the "Robots in Disguise" attribute of the series, so too do most writers who can't grasp how to make 'The Alien' aspect engaging and relatable. Instead they give them dogs, screen plays and model collections