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Shadowplay implies otherwise. Form dictates function, and the outliers had functions that didn't match the norms for their forms.Kurona wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:In an alternate universe, I wonder what Trailbreakers fate was, considering his 4x4 styled alt mode and his super powers. And for that matter, what became of outliers in this universe I wonder?
Well, the Functionists have a completely different ideology to the Senate, so they would have been treated much better - after all, everyone has a purpose. Though much better than how the Senate would treat them isn't really saying much.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:In an alternate universe, I wonder what Trailbreakers fate was, considering his 4x4 styled alt mode and his super powers. And for that matter, what became of outliers in this universe I wonder?
It’s not so much about commenting or criticizing Bay or the old TV show or the toys, it’s about using their success as a bolster to take the same characters and create something that appeals to an entirely different audience.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:What's a doomsday clock?
Sounds serious.
I forgot about it in Watchmen until you mentioned it. Really, really well used there!Randomhero wrote:Deadput wrote:What's a doomsday clock?
Sounds serious.
Doomsday clock is how close something is to Armageddon and absolute destruction. It's from Watchmen but it's actually real and kinda scary. Look it up, it's freaky to see where we are in our own world with it.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Deadput wrote:So this doomsday is worse then say a world war 3?
It's pretty darn scary to think on how our relatively normal and safe lives right now can be suddenly plunged into world disaster.
I've assumed this is the case with Cyclonus. Dead Universe bots could only ever spend so much time outside of it before becoming extra dead.Randomhero wrote:what is going on with cyclonus? Could he be linked to his functionist universe counterpart in the dead universe and be deteriorating? Is he slowly falling apart the more Tailgate uses his powers due to them being linked since they were so close when he spazzed out? I have no idea but I don't want him to die.
ScottyP wrote:I've assumed this is the case with Cyclonus. Dead Universe bots could only ever spend so much time outside of it before becoming extra dead.Randomhero wrote:what is going on with cyclonus? Could he be linked to his functionist universe counterpart in the dead universe and be deteriorating? Is he slowly falling apart the more Tailgate uses his powers due to them being linked since they were so close when he spazzed out? I have no idea but I don't want him to die.
Randomhero wrote:ScottyP wrote:I've assumed this is the case with Cyclonus. Dead Universe bots could only ever spend so much time outside of it before becoming extra dead.Randomhero wrote:what is going on with cyclonus? Could he be linked to his functionist universe counterpart in the dead universe and be deteriorating? Is he slowly falling apart the more Tailgate uses his powers due to them being linked since they were so close when he spazzed out? I have no idea but I don't want him to die.
And that goes back my original problem 2 years ago with the functionalist universe. Because the war never happened and there are no autobots or Optimus prime then this universe shouldn't exist anymore because no one stopped Nova Prime and the expansion 10 years ago. Without anyone to stop them than the original expansion back in the spotlight/revelation series would have happened merging the dead universe with that universe. Obviously that's being ignored for the sake of story but it does bug me.
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Randomhero wrote:ScottyP wrote:I've assumed this is the case with Cyclonus. Dead Universe bots could only ever spend so much time outside of it before becoming extra dead.Randomhero wrote:what is going on with cyclonus? Could he be linked to his functionist universe counterpart in the dead universe and be deteriorating? Is he slowly falling apart the more Tailgate uses his powers due to them being linked since they were so close when he spazzed out? I have no idea but I don't want him to die.
And that goes back my original problem 2 years ago with the functionalist universe. Because the war never happened and there are no autobots or Optimus prime then this universe shouldn't exist anymore because no one stopped Nova Prime and the expansion 10 years ago. Without anyone to stop them than the original expansion back in the spotlight/revelation series would have happened merging the dead universe with that universe. Obviously that's being ignored for the sake of story but it does bug me.
Unless somehow Nova was doomed to fail anyway somehow.
Also, yeah that is not Rung. that is a ploy!
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:OK, long ass post dealing with lots of things I have thought about today.
1) Anode. How does that work in the alternate dimension? She is from Caminus, and Lug is her travel buddy, we'll use that for now. Yet here, she is on Cybertron and is without Lug. She has the same purpose though. Does this mean the alternate universe made contact with the colonies, maybe even earlier than this universe, or did somehow there not being a war allowed an Anode exactly like the Camien to grow on Cybertron? I'm having issues seeing this, especially considering how the council is now anti-space travel, and seeing as how Sentinel and the council seem to have several things in common, wouldn't the council hate colonies and thus not want to make contact?
2) So they actually have the matrix in this universe. That means Orion Pax never got to it and thus was never chosen to be a Prime. instead, that 6 of 12 got it and has been addicted to it ever since. So what happened to Orion when the functionists retook power? Was he killed off? is he on the run? I can't see him bowing willingly to functionism.
3) speaking of characters from our universe, considering MTMTE 35 showed us alternate Rewind died, but Minimus and Dominus are still alive, will that play a role? Like, minimus finds his alternate self? or was his alternate self dealt with? Also, Dominus should in all likelihood still be alive, so what if Rewind finds him here? There is major potential here for Rodimus to reclaim a Matrix and thus get the quest back on track for them with a matrix map, and also to recover from the death of Dominus in MTMTE 53.
4) a resurgent functionists council would not have taken hold until after the events of MTMTE 36 seeing as how that happened on the day Megatron would have taken a life. Does that mean a Rodimus is alive in this universe as well, or another version of him? Or, let's just bring this out: what about all the guys who were forged in this universe? what happened to them? I'm sort of disappointed that so far Anode and Rung are the only 2 appearing in both universes in this arc, and there is great potential to see where the others went. Which, could happen in issue 4 with some sort of Rung rescue effort with a rogue group with that universes Orion Pax or something like that.
5) what do we make of 9 of 12 being different from his version in MTMTE 35? He was green then, but now he's red. and his design could have changed a bit, I'm not entirely sure on that one. could this be an honest error, or could it be something else entirely?
6) Rung is a ploy. They even said in #35 that he was 'the last thing they wanted' when referring to his alternate mode, so therefore he can't actually end up being something useful. He's connected to the matrix and 6 of 12 somehow, seeing as how my prediction is that he is a giver of life, someone capable of creating sparks, as seen when he steps down on Luna 1 and ignited the Hot Spot in issue 17. Also funny that we havent seen our Rung since issue 1.
7) Luna 2: no idea what's up there, not even a prediction, but I do not believe Unicron = Luna 2 (sorry Scotty)I totally called Killmaster. Maybe his wand is some sort of space bridge technology, where he teleports the victims somewhere? We've not had any background on that, and I very highly doubt Swerve and 10 would outright be killed that way.
9) Cyclonus: is it possible that Tailgate sleep-beats him up? Like, when Tailgate is recharging, his new strength means he also lashes out in his sleep, hence Cyclonus not being around him when he wakes up and also how he suffers those injuries but wants Tailgate to 'let them go.' I highly doubt Cyclonus would actually let someone beat him up, let alone more than once and including ripping off an arm, and leaving him his great sword.
10) still don't like the art. OP's art has grown on me, but this is still doing me no favors.
11) somehow, Luna 2 will be the way that the trapped Lost Lighters get off of Cybertron and back to their own dimension, maybe coupled with a newfound Matrix. with no spaceships and no teleport technology and no "geobomb" at least in this universe seeing as how Killmaster would not have been around to design the basis of the design anyway.
12) Wonder if any thing will be brought up that this universe is essentially Rewind's fault, and if he feels responsible in some way for it.
That is all... for now
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