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Deadput wrote:And especially not god damn Optimus Prime who is slowly becoming even more like scum and that really should never be the case, he is a worse Optimus then people think Bayverse Prime is, you also don't need most of the Autobots to be immoral to question Prime there are other ways you can have characters question him.
Randomhero wrote:I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the Autobots having a dark side. In war there’s so such thing as pure good vs pure evil. Hell, during WWII the allied sides tried some weird stuff during the war. Trying to make incendiary bat to bomb japan, trying to paint dogs with glow in the dark paint and releasing them in Japan as a form of psychological warfare etc.
I do however think Roberts does maybe emphasize too much on the bad sides of the Autobots though.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Blozor wrote:Deadput wrote:And especially not god damn Optimus Prime who is slowly becoming even more like scum and that really should never be the case, he is a worse Optimus then people think Bayverse Prime is, you also don't need most of the Autobots to be immoral to question Prime there are other ways you can have characters question him.
I kinda find it interesting that, as Megatron tries so hard to do good, Optimus Prime is finding his principles more compromised. Their roles are reversing--a little abruptly for Megatron, but far slower and more nuanced, more natural, for Prime.
Va'al wrote:Deadput wrote:Actually I don't know my mother's name is Valerie so is Va'al actually my mother?
Yes. Now go to your room and don't play with yourself.
Ebonyleopard wrote:This may be one of the biggest spoiler previews I've seen to date. Come on guys, you can do better than this. The Riptide moment was the big one of the previous issue, to spoil it like this.....
Transformers: Lost Light #12—Cover A: Jack Lawrence
James Roberts (w) • Jack Lawrence (a & c)
NO TURNING BACK! Getaway has crossed one too many lines and made one too many enemies. Hunted down on his own ship, the master manipulator has one last trick of his sleeve—something so shocking, so audacious, that it would put the most evil Decepticon to shame. No one is safe as the Mutineers Trilogy reaches its jaw-dropping climax.
FC • 32 pages • $3.99
Bullet points:
Variant cover by Livio Ramondelli!
Va'al wrote:I don't mind the violence or the gore - that was not my issue, at all.
It's not the first time we see it, for example, and as I say in the review, not liking how violent it is does not mean the story is bad.
On the density, yes. That was not well done, in my opinion.
But the biggest offender, to me, personally? Riptide's 'you're too dumb to be affected by this weapon'. It felt like a cheap shot, and not entirely sure where it fits with the otherwise flawed but empathetic messages of the book.
Bounti76 wrote:Va'al wrote:I don't mind the violence or the gore - that was not my issue, at all.
It's not the first time we see it, for example, and as I say in the review, not liking how violent it is does not mean the story is bad.
On the density, yes. That was not well done, in my opinion.
But the biggest offender, to me, personally? Riptide's 'you're too dumb to be affected by this weapon'. It felt like a cheap shot, and not entirely sure where it fits with the otherwise flawed but empathetic messages of the book.
While I agree with you on the cheap shot towards Riptide, I feel like the whole "reintroduce the Protectobots/Defensor and Mirage, only to slaughter them two issues later to move the plot forward" was the cheapest of shots. This story (and sadly, now this book) just has soured me on wanting to read Roberts' work again. He cheapens characters' deaths for shock value and plot points.
And another thing, why the HELL would Star Saber help Getaway with ANYTHING, seeing as how Getaway was locked up by Tyrest at one point?
Bounti76 wrote:And another thing, why the HELL would Star Saber help Getaway with ANYTHING, seeing as how Getaway was locked up by Tyrest at one point?
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Ironhidensh wrote:So I may have more thoughts to share later, after more processing and a re-read or two, but as for initial feelings?
This is the worst IDW comic issue I have read to date. The nicest thing I can say is major disappointment.
Randomhero wrote:Hey I got a idea: let’s use the corpse of our friend who died 5 years ago who conveniently turns into a leg instead of Mirage who is also a Combiner and can turn to a leg. Yea he lets use Ambulon when though when Devastator used Scrappers corpse they were hindered greatly by using a cadaver as a limb.
CONTINUITY! Who gives a ****!
Randomhero wrote:CONTINUITY! Who gives a- !
Nexus Knight wrote:Randomhero wrote:CONTINUITY! Who gives a- !
Actually, this feels out of place for Roberts. I'm not going to give my own thoughts about the story, but I want to point out that Roberts really hasn't had a problem with continuity before. He takes obscure stuff and makes them interesting, which is why (up to the Mutineers Trilogy) I respect him as a writer. Which makes the flop in how the dead limb works a bit puzzling to me.
ScottyP wrote:Well, here you go, this is pretty huge to the quest - but now you're complaining about everything else. Temper expectations, enjoy the ride![/list]
ScottyP wrote:I have some company over so therefore very little time to post, but really quick:
- I really really liked this issue!
- I disagree with all of you that have posted in various ways - see above though.
- The pacing, starting with 10, is like an accelerating train. A few pages into this, it's going full speed. How many folks complained about how slow the series was and how nothing was going on in some of the issues related to the quest? Well, here you go, this is pretty huge to the quest - but now you're complaining about everything else. Temper expectations, enjoy the ride!
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