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IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Soundwave902 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 5:53 pm

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So this issue is the conclusion of the 2nd story arc in LL?


If you want to get technical it's the third story arc but yes, it is
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby WreckerJack » Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:46 am

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My comic shop called me saying they finally got #8 in. (I read it already but I like to have my own copy and support the comic.) Seems like forever since we got a new Lost Light. Looks like the next one isn't gonna be out till September the 13th so that will be a ways.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:11 am

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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:28 am

My feelings are : yeah this a story up there with the charisma leeches, scavengers intro and Swearth as arcs I literally don't care about
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:47 am

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Aside from THE FEELS I'm getting, I'm curious what race Mengel is if not Cybertronian. They mentioned she's 'warm-wired', and I doubt we'll get more info on what is probably an irrelevant species, but I'm interested nonetheless.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ArmadaPrime » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:57 am

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Kurona wrote:Aside from THE FEELS I'm getting, I'm curious what race Mengel is if not Cybertronian. They mentioned she's 'warm-wired', and I doubt we'll get more info on what is probably an irrelevant species, but I'm interested nonetheless.

Bottom page, first bubble: she's a Catharsian
what that actually means I've no idea, though it's presumably derived from "catharsis" which is definitely appropriate given then themes of this story...
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:33 am

ArmadaPrime wrote:
Kurona wrote:Aside from THE FEELS I'm getting, I'm curious what race Mengel is if not Cybertronian. They mentioned she's 'warm-wired', and I doubt we'll get more info on what is probably an irrelevant species, but I'm interested nonetheless.

Bottom page, first bubble: she's a Catharsian
what that actually means I've no idea, though it's presumably derived from "catharsis" which is definitely appropriate given then themes of this story...



It means it's another robot race. That's all. There's dozens of them. Some are possible colonies like the now extinct ardurians and others like some we've seen as part of Roms organization are just robots
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ricemazter » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:56 am

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Randomhero wrote:
ArmadaPrime wrote:
Kurona wrote:Aside from THE FEELS I'm getting, I'm curious what race Mengel is if not Cybertronian. They mentioned she's 'warm-wired', and I doubt we'll get more info on what is probably an irrelevant species, but I'm interested nonetheless.

Bottom page, first bubble: she's a Catharsian
what that actually means I've no idea, though it's presumably derived from "catharsis" which is definitely appropriate given then themes of this story...



It means it's another robot race. That's all. There's dozens of them. Some are possible colonies like the now extinct ardurians and others like some we've seen as part of Roms organization are just robots


I wish her design was actually different from a Cybertronian's. As a mechanical race, she looks like every other robot in the story. The stentarians were cool and had their own visual aesthetic, but I wouldn't have known Mengel was a different species had the comic not told me.

Also, she's called Mengel? Really? Why not just call her I.M. McBadguy?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:39 am

Because we already had killmaster who's real name was also retarded
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ricemazter » Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:46 am

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Randomhero wrote:Because we already had killmaster who's real name was also retarded


At least killmaster was supposed to be stupid and it follows conventional transformer naming conventions, but I can't help but feel that Mengel is supposed to be clever or something. Like, it would've actually been better to just call her death angel.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby WreckerJack » Fri Sep 01, 2017 12:37 pm

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That orange dude must be Swindle's creepy cousin.

I think Lost Light has balancing issues. I really do like cute stories now and then but too many of them doesn't feel genuine. It's the main adventure stories that give the "feelsy" ones meaning.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:07 pm

ricemazter wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Because we already had killmaster who's real name was also retarded


At least killmaster was supposed to be stupid and it follows conventional transformer naming conventions, but I can't help but feel that Mengel is supposed to be clever or something. Like, it would've actually been better to just call her death angel.



It's probably Greek or Latin or something like that.

That's Roberts. He tries to make up clever unique names and it just tubs out to be a Greek or Latin word.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby SureShot18 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:18 pm

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The only thing I'm not a fan of for this mini-arc, which also happens to be the main-ish plot, is the attempt to bring Skids back. Don't get me wrong I really like Skids, but I'm of thought that if a character dies they should stay dead. My hope is that it resolves with Skids not returning and Nautica realizing she needs to move on and cherish him as he was. It would definitely make for a much better lesson than comic book revival fan-service.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:25 pm

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Given how this preview's gone, I get a strong feeling he's not actually coming back. Something along those lines seems bound to happen, Sureshot.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ricemazter » Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:42 pm

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Randomhero wrote:
ricemazter wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Because we already had killmaster who's real name was also retarded


At least killmaster was supposed to be stupid and it follows conventional transformer naming conventions, but I can't help but feel that Mengel is supposed to be clever or something. Like, it would've actually been better to just call her death angel.



It's probably Greek or Latin or something like that.

That's Roberts. He tries to make up clever unique names and it just tubs out to be a Greek or Latin word.


Ok, I actually bothered to look it up. The closest thing I could find was Mengel as an old German surname that derives from another, older German word for trader or peddler. It's still German, which doesn't dispel my original thought about what Roberts' might be referencing.

I'm fine with latin/greek names. They sound find while still conforming to transformers naming conventions in a way that better explains what a character is all about. I especially like, Trepan.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:12 pm

It's fine once in a while but sometimes it's just annoying because some of that stuff is straight from our own culture that would not be used as names for aliens.

Like Don Figueroa used to write the Japanese names of transformers or just transformers in Japanese on the side of Cybertron cities as an Easter egg. That's a language man. A human language. That just looks ridiculous
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby SureShot18 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:10 pm

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Kurona wrote:Given how this preview's gone, I get a strong feeling he's not actually coming back. Something along those lines seems bound to happen, Sureshot.

Yeah you're right, Mengel doesn't seem to be good and honest type. I Didn't get around to saying it when the last issue came out so I figured I'd throw the opinion out there now.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:37 pm

SureShot18 wrote:
Kurona wrote:Given how this preview's gone, I get a strong feeling he's not actually coming back. Something along those lines seems bound to happen, Sureshot.

Yeah you're right, Mengel doesn't seem to be good and honest type. I Didn't get around to saying it when the last issue came out so I figured I'd throw the opinion out there now.



If that is honestly the case than I see this story going as:

Natica finally learns to let skids go. As her and Lotty leave, Mengel yells from the door "wait! You forgot his brain!" natica says "I don't need it now" and the last page Skids is revived by Mengel without a anyone knowing because they've left.

Please for the love of god don't let it be that cliche
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Ballistic90 » Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:46 pm

ricemazter wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
ricemazter wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Because we already had killmaster who's real name was also retarded


At least killmaster was supposed to be stupid and it follows conventional transformer naming conventions, but I can't help but feel that Mengel is supposed to be clever or something. Like, it would've actually been better to just call her death angel.



It's probably Greek or Latin or something like that.

That's Roberts. He tries to make up clever unique names and it just tubs out to be a Greek or Latin word.


Ok, I actually bothered to look it up. The closest thing I could find was Mengel as an old German surname that derives from another, older German word for trader or peddler. It's still German, which doesn't dispel my original thought about what Roberts' might be referencing.

I'm fine with latin/greek names. They sound find while still conforming to transformers naming conventions in a way that better explains what a character is all about. I especially like, Trepan.


Seriously? Everyone, it's a reference to the Nazi doctor:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby WreckerJack » Fri Sep 01, 2017 8:05 pm

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Well, that's just cringe. Also they have the same toothgap thing...ugh.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:19 pm

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Ballistic90 wrote:Seriously? Everyone, it's a reference to the Nazi doctor:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
That was my first thought as well. But IIRC, Shockwave was already compared to and/or modeled after Dr. Mengele due to his experiments, though I'm not sure which writer started that.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby ricemazter » Fri Sep 01, 2017 10:46 pm

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ricemazter wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
ricemazter wrote:
Randomhero wrote:Because we already had killmaster who's real name was also retarded


At least killmaster was supposed to be stupid and it follows conventional transformer naming conventions, but I can't help but feel that Mengel is supposed to be clever or something. Like, it would've actually been better to just call her death angel.



It's probably Greek or Latin or something like that.

That's Roberts. He tries to make up clever unique names and it just tubs out to be a Greek or Latin word.


Ok, I actually bothered to look it up. The closest thing I could find was Mengel as an old German surname that derives from another, older German word for trader or peddler. It's still German, which doesn't dispel my original thought about what Roberts' might be referencing.

I'm fine with latin/greek names. They sound find while still conforming to transformers naming conventions in a way that better explains what a character is all about. I especially like, Trepan.


Seriously? Everyone, it's a reference to the Nazi doctor:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele


That's what I originally thought, hence my references to death angel/angel of death, as he would become known. Though, I did want to give Roberts the benefit of the doubt that it might be something a bit more clever (forgot about the tooth gap, though). I didn't say it outright because I didn't think it entirely appropriate to start talking too extensively about high profile Nazis on a transformers fan site. Thank you for ripping off that band aid in all sincerity.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

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Do we have a definite list of characters who support Getaway in his mutiny?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Lost Light Ongoing Discussion Thread

Postby Kurona » Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:21 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:Do we have a definite list of characters who support Getaway in his mutiny?

Right now, basically everyone who wasn't kicked off the ship, or who was away for the Combiner Wars crossover. Naturally we don't know if there's people still on the Lost Light against him; but that's what we'll be waiting for #10 for.

In terms of characters left on the Lost Light that have mattered narratively in the past... Perceptor, Atomizer, Thunderclash, Bluestreak, Mainframe, Blaster and Riptide are the ones that come to mind right now.
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