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D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I do admit the resolution did seem a bit strange, it worked. not completely but it worked and it was kinda funny. I'm also happy we have new Lost Lighters, though how Rodimus and Thunders work together may get interesting. Also, WTH happened to Swerve?!? Next issue deals with a disappearing Swerve and a new cyclonus avatar and a planet chasing the ship! Things about to get real

The thing with Swerve was a quantum leap reference. It's how that how would end an episode. Also it's Luna one

How do we know it's Luna 1? I haven't heard or seen a thing. It only says a planet. It could be anything. And how do we know for certain that it is just a cute joke and not Swerve legitimately disappearing? For all we know, this is a new planet and Swerve was kidnapped by that planet

Well let's think about this, the solicit said there's a planet chasing them. Last time I checked, Luna-1 was a satellite, not a planet. It could be something new that is just being introduced. However what's more likely is that its Deathsaurus and the DJD's "Warworld" a literal **** planet that was cyberformed into a command carrier.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I do admit the resolution did seem a bit strange, it worked. not completely but it worked and it was kinda funny. I'm also happy we have new Lost Lighters, though how Rodimus and Thunders work together may get interesting. Also, WTH happened to Swerve?!? Next issue deals with a disappearing Swerve and a new cyclonus avatar and a planet chasing the ship! Things about to get real

The thing with Swerve was a quantum leap reference. It's how that how would end an episode. Also it's Luna one

How do we know it's Luna 1? I haven't heard or seen a thing. It only says a planet. It could be anything. And how do we know for certain that it is just a cute joke and not Swerve legitimately disappearing? For all we know, this is a new planet and Swerve was kidnapped by that planet

Luna 1 was my first guess, but I bet it's the Warworld from a few books back.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I do admit the resolution did seem a bit strange, it worked. not completely but it worked and it was kinda funny. I'm also happy we have new Lost Lighters, though how Rodimus and Thunders work together may get interesting. Also, WTH happened to Swerve?!? Next issue deals with a disappearing Swerve and a new cyclonus avatar and a planet chasing the ship! Things about to get real

The thing with Swerve was a quantum leap reference. It's how that how would end an episode. Also it's Luna one

How do we know it's Luna 1? I haven't heard or seen a thing. It only says a planet. It could be anything. And how do we know for certain that it is just a cute joke and not Swerve legitimately disappearing? For all we know, this is a new planet and Swerve was kidnapped by that planet

I think you read the solici wrong. It's not a planet chasing ship but a planet chasing the ship(lost light) and it doesn't help that Roberts confirmed fortress Maximus will be returning this year. What's max got right now? A giant moon with engines. Also there only 6 issues left this year. Enough for a big story arc to finish the year and the return of Luna one makes sense

Randomhero wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I do admit the resolution did seem a bit strange, it worked. not completely but it worked and it was kinda funny. I'm also happy we have new Lost Lighters, though how Rodimus and Thunders work together may get interesting. Also, WTH happened to Swerve?!? Next issue deals with a disappearing Swerve and a new cyclonus avatar and a planet chasing the ship! Things about to get real

The thing with Swerve was a quantum leap reference. It's how that how would end an episode. Also it's Luna one

How do we know it's Luna 1? I haven't heard or seen a thing. It only says a planet. It could be anything. And how do we know for certain that it is just a cute joke and not Swerve legitimately disappearing? For all we know, this is a new planet and Swerve was kidnapped by that planet

I think you read the solici wrong. It's not a planet chasing ship but a planet chasing the ship(lost light) and it doesn't help that Roberts confirmed fortress Maximus will be returning this year. What's max got right now? A giant moon with engines. Also there only 6 issues left this year. Enough for a big story arc to finish the year and the return of Luna one makes sense

SW's SilverHammer wrote: Last time I checked, Luna-1 was a satellite, not a planet.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I do admit the resolution did seem a bit strange, it worked. not completely but it worked and it was kinda funny. I'm also happy we have new Lost Lighters, though how Rodimus and Thunders work together may get interesting. Also, WTH happened to Swerve?!? Next issue deals with a disappearing Swerve and a new cyclonus avatar and a planet chasing the ship! Things about to get real

The thing with Swerve was a quantum leap reference. It's how that how would end an episode. Also it's Luna one

How do we know it's Luna 1? I haven't heard or seen a thing. It only says a planet. It could be anything. And how do we know for certain that it is just a cute joke and not Swerve legitimately disappearing? For all we know, this is a new planet and Swerve was kidnapped by that planet

I think you read the solici wrong. It's not a planet chasing ship but a planet chasing the ship(lost light) and it doesn't help that Roberts confirmed fortress Maximus will be returning this year. What's max got right now? A giant moon with engines. Also there only 6 issues left this year. Enough for a big story arc to finish the year and the return of Luna one makes sense

SW's SilverHammer wrote: Last time I checked, Luna-1 was a satellite, not a planet.

Moon planet satellite whatever. Doesn't matter, to say moon would give it away instantly. It's a solicite.

It's not the djd and their warworld. That's leading up to MTMTEs event Dying Light which isn't kicking off till the end of the year.

Randomhero wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I do admit the resolution did seem a bit strange, it worked. not completely but it worked and it was kinda funny. I'm also happy we have new Lost Lighters, though how Rodimus and Thunders work together may get interesting. Also, WTH happened to Swerve?!? Next issue deals with a disappearing Swerve and a new cyclonus avatar and a planet chasing the ship! Things about to get real

The thing with Swerve was a quantum leap reference. It's how that how would end an episode. Also it's Luna one

How do we know it's Luna 1? I haven't heard or seen a thing. It only says a planet. It could be anything. And how do we know for certain that it is just a cute joke and not Swerve legitimately disappearing? For all we know, this is a new planet and Swerve was kidnapped by that planet

I think you read the solici wrong. It's not a planet chasing ship but a planet chasing the ship(lost light) and it doesn't help that Roberts confirmed fortress Maximus will be returning this year. What's max got right now? A giant moon with engines. Also there only 6 issues left this year. Enough for a big story arc to finish the year and the return of Luna one makes sense

SW's SilverHammer wrote: Last time I checked, Luna-1 was a satellite, not a planet.

Moon planet satellite whatever. Doesn't matter, to say moon would give it away instantly. It's a solicite.

So say planet, an entirely false moniker for a celestial body, that is in fact a satellite. Even if it's spoilers, Roberts would've said moon or satellite, or left it vague; planet's pretty damn specific. Your thought process implies that: James Roberts doesn't know how astronomical objects are classified; doesn't understand the difference between a moon and a planet; believes his readers are ignorant of Astronomical sciences, and is "dumbing it down"; or just holds active contempt for the part of his reading base that has two brain cells to rub together. Oh, but that could just be orbital wobble. Also, if it were Luna-1, why would the solicit say "chasing"? Chasing is a synonym of "pursue"; to follow (someone or something) in order to catch or attack them. If it were luna-1 why would Fort max be chasing the Lost light, why wouldn't it be "following", or "approaching" them? The only thing that's large enough to classify as planet, or at least a dwarf planet that would be chasing them, is the Warworld, why would they be chasing the Lost light? Because they want them **** dead (again).

I some how missed it. Planet chasing the ship? When did this happen?

Holy crap dude lets not get all facts and numbers about planets in a series about sad gay robots that stand around and talk about their feelings. Next months comic says a planet starts chasing them. My money is on fort max and Luna one because 1. Roberts confirmed they're coming back this year and 2 Luna one has giant engines that give it mobility. I'm not getting into what's a planet and what's not because who cares especially when MTMTE solicited are always dodgey like 28 that had tailgate and Megatron on the cover with the summary "Megatron is in charge and one isn't happy about it, see what happens when he tells him he doesn't want him on the ship" I'm paraphrasing but that what it said. What happened in that issue? Nothing that was even close to that. Tailgate never interacted with Megatron and no one told Megatron off in it.

But yet the "quantum leap" reference may also be an actual in-story disappearance. And plus, Luna 1 is powering itself somewhere. I don't believe Max could actually program the engines to find and follow the ship. And I said the ship was being chased, not that there was a planet chasing ship or whatever.

And as for this being a "filler" episode, it is actually very important to the quest: They have no map; the goal since #28 has been to find Thunderclash and get a map; Thunders is now part of the crew with some others, increasing the size and command structure. This was a very important issue, and they still need to have Ratchet and Drift return, the protectobots and Mirage leave and find the Scavengers and Grimlock. I feel the DJD will come after all that has happened and they are either fully loaded or very underhanded.

Also don't forget: Tyrest, Star Saber, Lockdown, those creatures from the portal where skids went in #21: They're all still out there

Back to the debate on scientist vs artists briefly....

My thoughts are this: Cybertron had a functionalist society for awhile, remember the time chase for Brainstorm? The almost foreshadowing alternate ending with Rung being tortured? In that reality he wasn’t a scientist and he is ornamental. The arts seemed to suffer on Cybertron during the majority of they're history, when the colonies were severed, Cybertron took a more utilitarian air and didn't promote artistic endeavors, where Camian did?

Actually no, that alternate Cybertron was deeply religious. Fubtionalists are deeply religious. They live and worship Adaptus. What function you were forged with is the function you are meant to be till death. Constructed Colds were exiled because they were not given function but created and assigned it. Same with the M3 religion. Nothing wrong with science in that universe but there, theyre all governed by Adaptus Worshippers. There wrought be performance of art there's no function for it thats for the greater good.

Plus Rung isn't a scientist in any universe. He's hes a psychiatrist.

I never said anything about religion. I was speaking strictly of arts.

And yes, I made a slip up, though Psychiatry is considered a science, no, a psychiatrist is not considered a scientist.

James Roberts has come out with an extended commentary regarding Issue #42 if anyone is interested.

Hmmm, this issue seemed very... "everything wrong with MTMTE." Too much exposition, lackluster resolution, prominently advertised characters not really doing anything, threats that are supposed to be clever but just come across as stupid, hi-and-die characters, robots acting a bit too humanly, too much self-indulgence on the author's part, adding even more characters to an already bloated cast, yet another cliffhanger...

I'm particularly disappointed in how the least interesting lady bot joined the Lost Light (not the cyclops nor the giant nor the "lesbian" couple), and how Thunderclash sacrificing some of his life to type a grammatically correct "you're" didn't seem to amount to anything.
And 3 recap pages?! Come on.

Also, Comixology made this a pain in the butt to read.



But! I absolutely died at "but now they're ON FIRE!"

double post...

Noideaforaname wrote:Hmmm, this issue seemed very... "everything wrong with MTMTE." Too much exposition, lackluster resolution, prominently advertised characters not really doing anything, threats that are supposed to be clever but just come across as stupid, hi-and-die characters, robots acting a bit too humanly, too much self-indulgence on the author's part, adding even more characters to an already bloated cast, yet another cliffhanger...

I'm particularly disappointed in how the least interesting lady bot joined the Lost Light (not the cyclops nor the giant nor the "lesbian" couple), and how Thunderclash sacrificing some of his life to type a grammatically correct "you're" didn't seem to amount to anything.
And 3 recap pages?! Come on.

Also, Comixology made this a pain in the butt to read.

But! I absolutely died at "but now they're ON FIRE!"

You have basically described most of MTMTE, but there really isn't anything wrong. That's what makes it so fun. Remember: this is a civilization, they have lots of our ideas and concepts. We seem to forget that they can do things other than make war. WE need to move beyond that. And its is a SPACESHIP! You need a large crew, and the new members are actually helpful! Thunderclash is the one with the dreams, and Rodimus is the one without a map! They needed this! And the silliness and humor works. it was actually a really fun little series.

And virtually every comic ends with a cliffhanger. It leaves you thirsting for more!

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:You have basically described most of MTMTE, but there really isn't anything wrong. That's what makes it so fun. Remember: this is a civilization, they have lots of our ideas and concepts. We seem to forget that they can do things other than make war. WE need to move beyond that. And its is a SPACESHIP! You need a large crew, and the new members are actually helpful! Thunderclash is the one with the dreams, and Rodimus is the one without a map! They needed this! And the silliness and humor works. it was actually a really fun little series.

And virtually every comic ends with a cliffhanger. It leaves you thirsting for more!

There is a difference between the enjoyable Mtmte issues and the last two awful ones I don't hate these two issue but without a doubt they are the weakest MTMTE issues so far..




The only relevant events in the last two issues were Thunderclash and a nobody joining the Lost Light and the introduction of a bunch of female characters due to complaints honestly its the only reason why their there.


Oh and the fact that Countdown's dead and pretty much ruining any chance of another guy joining the Lost Light but seriously his death was my biggest issue part of it having to do with owning his toy (the newer one with the giant cannon)



And I'm sick of Roberts shoving in his British culture in the recent issues (The music in the end is an example) not all the readers are British I'm okay with subtle references but lately he has been overloading the comics dialogue with it I think Roberts's trying to hard with the writing.


Punny does not always mean funny.




Also the Endura crap needs to stop it was a good concept and I liked it when it was not in the spotlight but now their just overusing it as some sort of plot device.




Sorry for the rant but I want to get this off my chest even if its garbled or doesn't make sense.

The dancing scenes are also starting to become cringe worthy.





And I like dancing scenes.

It's better to read these last two issues together.

I'll admit, these rather scary looking enemies were defeated too easily, although I thought it was genuinly hilarious how they did it. They died of charisma overload because Rodimus AND Megatron entered the room at the same time. It's the kind of cheeky stuff Roberts loves.

And then at the end, with Cyclonus and Tailgate, and then there's Getaway. Man, when he's busy being a likeable enough action hero, you almost forget how slimy he can be between those two.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:It's better to read these last two issues together.

I'll admit, these rather scary looking enemies were defeated too easily, although I thought it was genuinly hilarious how they did it. They died of charisma overload because Rodimus AND Megatron entered the room at the same time. It's the kind of cheeky stuff Roberts loves.

And then at the end, with Cyclonus and Tailgate, and then there's Getaway. Man, when he's busy being a likeable enough action hero, you almost forget how slimy he can be between those two.

Ok I admit that was funny and one of the good things in this issue.





And Getaway is seriously making me concerned due to him being really creepy lately mostly when it comes to Tailgate.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:And I'm sick of Roberts shoving in his British culture in the recent issues (The music in the end is an example) not all the readers are British I'm okay with subtle references but lately he has been overloading the comics dialogue with it I think Roberts's trying to hard with the writing.

Yeah.

I mean, it's not like US culture has a fair shot at being represented in comics.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Sorry for the rant

Apology accepted.

Anyone else getting the feeling Getaway has a buch of dead transformers the same size as tailgate, in his room that he plays with like dolls? No? Just me? I have the uncanny feeling Getaway is a monster behind the scenes.

He's a bit of a monster on the scene, too. That behaviour is very very unsettling, viscerally so.

Va'al wrote:He's a bit of a monster on the scene, too. That behaviour is very very unsettling, viscerally so.

I also get the feeling, that the more tailgate is with getaway, the more their conversations will end with getaway saying "don't tell anyone or we'll both get in trouble. "