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SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Va'al wrote:He's a bit of a monster on the scene, too. That behaviour is very very unsettling, viscerally so.

I also get the feeling, that the more tailgate is with getaway, the more their conversations will end with getaway saying "don't tell anyone or we'll both get in trouble. "

That seriously makes me sick.

I still enjoyed them. You have a good reason to not, but I still did. If anything my least favorite MTMTE comics (ok, still loved but to a lesser degree) were #34 and #22.

And forcing British culture? Really? And Americans haven't forced stuff on us? Besides: this comic goes to many countries, many of whom will not get the references.

Va'al wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Va'al wrote:He's a bit of a monster on the scene, too. That behaviour is very very unsettling, viscerally so.

I also get the feeling, that the more tailgate is with getaway, the more their conversations will end with getaway saying "don't tell anyone or we'll both get in trouble. "

That seriously makes me sick.

I know right? The buffalo bill thing might've been a messed up joke on my part, but I seriously get that creepy "don't tell anyone" vibe from getaway. Like if and when tailgate and cyclonus separate, and tailgate goes with getaway, then the bad things start happening.

I fear for Tailgate. I feel the next episode or 2 will begin to confront this issue though, with cyclonus getting his new avatar and all. it feels like they are headed for the spotlight.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I still enjoyed them. You have a good reason to not, but I still did. If anything my least favorite MTMTE comics (ok, still loved but to a lesser degree) were #34 and #22.

And forcing British culture? Really? And Americans haven't forced stuff on us? Besides: this comic goes to many countries, many of whom will not get the references.

Other people can explain it better.




It's the references to Earth T.V such as Doctor Who I can barley stand anymore I use to love these references but lately they have not been used cleverly like the past and more in your face.

Were not even on Earth so I don't understand when the Lost light crew consistently discuss Earth culture I mean once in awhile its cool but there are even Autobots who as we know so far have never been too Earth and are still talking about it anyways I'm mostly thinking of Swerve here.





And in regards to the American comment I also say the following a lot in real life and not just for Transformers:


"Just because someone does something doesn't mean another should do the same thing."

It's been established that Swerve and Tailgate are fascinated by Earth culture. Swerve in particular.

Shame you don't enjoy them, I thought the music titles (while not always my type of music) worked really well with the scene. Being a dancing party and all.


That closing quotation, however, makes no sense. This is not Roberts' attempt to reclaim.. wait. Yes. Yes it is. We're taking back all the colonies, by infiltrating them with indie mopey music, silly sci-fi and robots with feelings. kthxbai

Va'al wrote:It's been established that Swerve and Tailgate are fascinated by Earth culture. Swerve in particular.

Shame you don't enjoy them, I thought the music titles (while not always my type of music) worked really well with the scene. Being a dancing party and all.


That closing quotation, however, makes no sense. This is not Roberts' attempt to reclaim.. wait. Yes. Yes it is. We're taking back all the colonies, by infiltrating them with indie mopey music, silly sci-fi and robots with feelings. kthxbai

I just feel like there should be a balance that's all even if my posts make me look angry or something.




I only have some of the mtmte comics since i mostly buy the volumes from book stores (When they actually bother to have them) Other wise I read the comics from wiki descriptions and tumblr posts these last two issues are the first actual comic issues I have bought since finding a comic book store recently.


So in other words I don't know everything about IDW Transformers and I just share my opinion based on what I have seen.





I also don't understand what you mean on the last point of your post starting from: This is not Robert's.

Va'al wrote:That closing quotation, however, makes no sense. This is not Roberts' attempt to reclaim.. wait. Yes. Yes it is. We're taking back all the colonies, by infiltrating them with indie mopey music, silly sci-fi and robots with feelings. kthxbai

Oh my god, Gay robots are infiltrating our country from the U.K and Corrupting our youth culture! I propose we form a task force against this! hmm,
League Against Beasts Infiltrating America? No, hmm Brotherhood United To Tirelessly Satisfy Ethical Xenophillia. Perfect!

It's very strange an alien would suddenly become obsessed with the culture of a planet he's never even been on. It's even stranger that, upon somehow viewing literally everything that other species ever created within just a few short weeks, said alien only ever seems to reference an incredibly tiny, contemporary, dare say hipster pool of works. Doesn't matter if it's British or American or any other nationality, the entire scenario just comes across as the author really wants to give shout-outs to his current interests.

Noideaforaname wrote:It's very strange an alien would suddenly become obsessed with the culture of a planet he's never even been on. It's even stranger that, upon somehow viewing literally everything that other species ever created within just a few short weeks, said alien only ever seems to reference an incredibly tiny, contemporary, dare say hipster pool of works. Doesn't matter if it's British or American or any other nationality, the entire scenario just comes across as the author really wants to give shout-outs to his current interests.

Yup this is what I mean I just couldn't explain it



(seriously explaining things is one of things I'm horrible at)

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Va'al wrote:That closing quotation, however, makes no sense. This is not Roberts' attempt to reclaim.. wait. Yes. Yes it is. We're taking back all the colonies, by infiltrating them with indie mopey music, silly sci-fi and robots with feelings. kthxbai

Oh my god, Gay robots are infiltrating our country from the U.K and Corrupting our youth culture! I propose we form a task force against this! hmm,
League Against Beasts Infiltrating America? No, hmm Brotherhood United To Tirelessly Satisfy Ethical Xenophillia. Perfect!

oh my God, dude. I burst out laughing. I'd quote that, but...yeah...

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:I just feel like there should be a balance that's all even if my posts make me look angry or something.

I just feel like you put way too many spaces between all your paragraphs. There, I said it.

Noideaforaname wrote:It's very strange an alien would suddenly become obsessed with the culture of a planet he's never even been on. It's even stranger that, upon somehow viewing literally everything that other species ever created within just a few short weeks, said alien only ever seems to reference an incredibly tiny, contemporary, dare say hipster pool of works. Doesn't matter if it's British or American or any other nationality, the entire scenario just comes across as the author really wants to give shout-outs to his current interests.

Perhaps, yes. But from my reading of it, they're really not obtrusive at all: they show up in captions, in non-plot advancing scenes, sometimes for humorous purposes (which we also discussed during the podcast interview). As for the hipster thing -




And I'm not surprised that an author who essentially sees the entirety of the Transformers universe stemming from a briefcase part of his own plots would like to make more of his personal tastes known.

I was happy with the issue. looking forward to what's next.

And I like how the lost lighters are studying and fascinated with alien culture. some of them just really love it and it's cool. adds some good humor too, even for those who do not get it. (me among them on occasion!)

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:And I'm sick of Roberts shoving in his British culture in the recent issues (The music in the end is an example) not all the readers are British I'm okay with subtle references but lately he has been overloading the comics dialogue with it I think Roberts's trying to hard with the writing.

That's the thing though, I don't feel this comic has a distinctive "British" feel to it. At least when I read it, the majority of the characters voices don't have any accent in my head. I honestly forget that Roberts is a British writer until I run into the occasional "arse" or "colour", which doesn't seem to happen often. And please don't interpret that as saying having a British feel to the book is a bad thing as so much as I think he's still does a pretty good job keeping it pretty neutral for the English speaking nations which in turn makes the book more relative for more readers.

Va'al wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

Va'al wrote:He's a bit of a monster on the scene, too. That behaviour is very very unsettling, viscerally so.

I also get the feeling, that the more tailgate is with getaway, the more their conversations will end with getaway saying "don't tell anyone or we'll both get in trouble. "

That seriously makes me sick.

Holy crap guys, am I the only one who thinks what's going on with between Getaway and Tailgate is NOT that horrendous? For me I get the strong impression Getaway got a major beef with Cyclonus, to the point that he not above sabotaging Cyclonus relationship with Tailgate by getting involved himself. Definitely a major dick move but nowhere near "bad touch" levels... Or am I missing something? Been a while since I reread some of the older issues but that said I never really got that creeper vibe that many others have mentioned here.

Noideaforaname wrote:It's very strange an alien would suddenly become obsessed with the culture of a planet he's never even been on. It's even stranger that, upon somehow viewing literally everything that other species ever created within just a few short weeks, said alien only ever seems to reference an incredibly tiny, contemporary, dare say hipster pool of works. Doesn't matter if it's British or American or any other nationality, the entire scenario just comes across as the author really wants to give shout-outs to his current interests.

In the same way that people who have never been to say, Japan for example, get entirely obsessed with their culture? Or people who are exposed to dozens of genres of music decide that they want to focus on one particular genre, as it's what they identify with the most?

I don't see the problem in this. Swerve clearly loves and identifies with human culture, and likes British Indie music as a result. It's obviously no coincidence that it's because the writer himself is British. You're opinions and taste will always influence your writing. I'm sure an American writer would throw in more US pop culture references, as that is what they're comfortable and associate with.

I'm English, so I personally like the British culture references. It's a nice break to reading or watching shows with countless US references. Not saying that they're bad, but it's nice for me to have something I can relate to (even if I bloody hate Doctor Who). Also, it helps make the comic what it is. I'm biased of course, but I much prefer British humour in entertainment to US humour (sitcoms beign a massive example of this), so I'm glad this series is being written by a Brit. It's what makes it my favourite comic. If I were writing this comic I'd be doing the exact same thing.

Also, Roberts gets a +1 from me for throwing in "How Soon Is Now" by The Smiths. Great track.

Wow this went weird really fast.

I was going to stay out of the cultural debate but I don't think I can. Just too much my thing I guess.

I didn't find anything culturally slanted expecially in the music selection. A few bands I heard of, a few I didn’t, but that didn’t make it too British. It made me out of the loop not because I'm American, but because it's not my style.

On this Internet age, we get exposure to more music and more culture. Because of it, I listen to bands that I would never have heard before both from the US and (especially) from outside of the US.
Dr Who is just as popular in the US as in Britain (trust me, it is).
We are becoming more of an international culture as we come more in contact with each other on a mass and daily basis. But don't feel excluded by it, use it as an opportunity to expand your world.


I felt the story was rushed. It felt like there was more but Roberts was unable to spend time doing a really great plot.