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[MrBlack]

Two thoughts:

Dominus as the first Vos/the Pet provides Tarn with a bit more motivation to do what he did to Kaon. It wasn't just the weakness of emotions a attachment, it was sympathy towards an Autobot.

I guess the last Scavengers story was some sort foreshadowing with the Roboids. I wonder if Demus learned his trade from the DJD?

[MrBlack]

Also, Skids was awful mopey this issue. Given the awkwardness between him and Rung after the amica endura ritual, do you think Skids proposed to Rung and got shot down?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I'm really not sure what to make of Skids and Rung.

Actually idea:

last issue, Rewind said that on cybertron, Amica endura is only when you cannot get a conjux endura, so it means you accept you will never get that "true love." maybe the implication is that Skids wanted a conjux, but now that Nautica has done the amica, he can no longer get that conjux, hence his displeasure.

[MrBlack]

I'm really not sure what to make of Skids and Rung.

Actually idea:

last issue, Rewind said that on cybertron, Amica endura is only when you cannot get a conjux endura, so it means you accept you will never get that "true love." maybe the implication is that Skids wanted a conjux, but now that Nautica has done the amica, he can no longer get that conjux, hence his displeasure.

Maybe...

[RevTibe]

I'll need to go panel-by-panel on Skids again, but let's not rule out that he might be sad on account of the whole "dying in an hour" thing :P

[D-Maximal_Primal]

True, but the really awkward "see you later" with Rung rang some bells (hehe)

[ricemazter]

Wow, pacing issues is right.

The whole dominus thing was infuriating. Specifically, rewind nor chromedome consider that reversing the domestication might be the crew's only way offworld?

That whole moment felt really truncated considering it's gravity.

[megatronpro1]

Ok I can understand IDW using fools energon in order to keep Megatons strength in check and even having Megatron renounce violence but he goes from one issue where hes ready to die and surrender himself to the DJD providing that they allow the autobots to go free very courageous if you ask me to the next issue have him repaired even remake his fusion cannon to only turn Megatron into a coward not willing to fight with his crew mates and ready to run with his tail between his legs so to speak honestly idw we finally have overlord and megatron in the same area and we won't get to see them battle it if ids was smart give him regular energon back his fusion cannon and the courage to stand with his shipmates instead of making him a coward megatron has never been a coward and has always faced threats no matter how great they were now idw wants us to believe he is a coward WHY

[Mr Skram]

Now that you mention it, rice, that does irk me. I actually liked this issue a bit more than the previous few but I've been ready for this arc to be over for a long time.

I think my favorite thing is that Leader Magnus now scales a little better for my purposes.

[Quint]

Wow, pacing issues is right.

The whole dominus thing was infuriating. Specifically, rewind nor chromedome consider that reversing the domestication might be the crew's only way offworld?

That whole moment felt really truncated considering it's gravity.

If the series had been cancelled abruptly, I'd understand this. As it is, with the whole mystery being resolved out of nowhere, I don't understand it.

Also, is Roberts giving Rodimus any redeeming qualities? He just seems to be a 2 dimensional douche bag in MTMTE. Pity.

[megatronpro1]

Can anyone please answer why megatron goes from been courageous in one issue to being a coward in the next issue

[ricemazter]

Wow, pacing issues is right.

The whole dominus thing was infuriating. Specifically, rewind nor chromedome consider that reversing the domestication might be the crew's only way offworld?

That whole moment felt really truncated considering it's gravity.

If the series had been cancelled abruptly, I'd understand this. As it is, with the whole mystery being resolved out of nowhere, I don't understand it.

Also, is Roberts giving Rodimus any redeeming qualities? He just seems to be a 2 dimensional douche bag in MTMTE. Pity.

I actually kind of like MTMTE rodimus. He isn't a squeaky clean kid who wants to do good for good's sake, at least not entirely. He wants to be a hero for all the wrong reasons. At least he's had a bit of development in refusing the list and apologizing to drift. Though I will agree that his making the same kind of mistakes has been going on since before the war ended when he let swindle ofall people get the best of him.

I really want a scene where he royally screws up and has Megatron of all people sit him down and tell him off. Megatron, I think has been a much better captain than rodimus.

[RevTibe]

I did enjoy the reveal, but I think I would've been more fond of it if it were split by a cliffhanger ending, giving me a month to stew on it, add gravity. (Of course, that wouldn't really work for the trades.) That's assuming Dom's definitely dead, though. It was a reasonably dramatic send-off, so I'll give it 75-25, in favor of him being dead.

I'm getting a vibe that Rod will come into his own after he squeezes through the Lost Light's transwarp mailbox and retakes the ship.

[Ironhidensh]

I really like third story, but man is it ever feeling rushed and condensed. Its really starting to ruin the story for me. I like what's going on, but it isn't enough.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

The pacing issues were there, but I feel that had we still had the 22 page comics instead of 20, things might be a bit better. Just think about it: since the loss of 2 pages, we have had issues 39-53, which comes to 30 pages lost, more than a whole issue. Roberts even said that was a hindrance and a bother, and I can see why. it's like cutting the running time of a TV show from 22 minutes to 20, or a 45 minutes to 40. It really condenses and needs some sacrifice.

I'm also pretty sure Dom is not dead

[DaRonin]

I don't think Megatron is afraid of the DJD. I see megatron as being like a reformed Alcoholic. But in this case, it got to the point where he was addicted to the violence, to the killing, he did it because it was the only answer, and it was the only way he could succeed, this is what he pretty much said back in 49. Until eventually, as in back in the Dark Cybertron series, he remembered there were other ways, and he finally, finally, after millions of years and countless deaths, got back on the wagon. The entire galaxy can hate him all it wants, but he's at last at peace with himself and trying to do something worthwhile that doesn't involve murder. And now, the only answer that exists once again is to kill, and It terrifies him to no end. I can see what Roberts was getting at with him Rejecting the Fusion Cannon and opting to stay under the shield. In fact, I'm pretty sure next issue he's going to point out he didn't expect to survive his meeting with Tarn, and it would have been easier if he didn't.

It will be interesting to see how Roberts writes Megatron next issue. Whether Megatron sticks with flight, or goes to fight, it's going to define him.

Also, I'm pretty sure Nightbeat is going to determine something massive underneath the surface of the planet to tip the scales next issue. We know next issue is where it ends, and 55 is the aftermath. So yeah, can't wait. I've enjoyed this arc immensely, I'm just worried about who is, and who isn't, making it out next issue.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

I don't think Megatron is afraid of the DJD. I see megatron as being like a reformed Alcoholic. But in this case, it got to the point where he was addicted to the violence, to the killing, he did it because it was the only answer, and it was the only way he could succeed, this is what he pretty much said back in 49. Until eventually, as in back in the Dark Cybertron series, he remembered there were other ways, and he finally, finally, after millions of years and countless deaths, got back on the wagon. The entire galaxy can hate him all it wants, but he's at last at peace with himself and trying to do something worthwhile that doesn't involve murder. And now, the only answer that exists once again is to kill, and It terrifies him to no end. I can see what Roberts was getting at with him Rejecting the Fusion Cannon and opting to stay under the shield. In fact, I'm pretty sure next issue he's going to point out he didn't expect to survive his meeting with Tarn, and it would have been easier if he didn't.

It will be interesting to see how Roberts writes Megatron next issue. Whether Megatron sticks with flight, or goes to fight, it's going to define him.

Also, I'm pretty sure Nightbeat is going to determine something massive underneath the surface of the planet to tip the scales next issue. We know next issue is where it ends, and 55 is the aftermath. So yeah, can't wait. I've enjoyed this arc immensely, I'm just worried about who is, and who isn't, making it out next issue.

Very well said. I never had thought about it like this, but now I see it, and it makes sense and it is something Roberts would do

[RevTibe]

Can anyone please answer why megatron goes from been courageous in one issue to being a coward in the next issue

He's afraid of who he used to be - that if he starts killing, he won't be able to stop again.

When it was just him facing Tarn, he was happy to let Tarn kill him without fighting back. The fact he's alone is an important part - he thought that by sacrificing himself he could save his comrades' lives without having to fight. That satisfies his desire to protect his comrades without forcing him to kill.

However, now Megatron would be alongside his Autobot comrades, a situation which would force him to fight and kill in their defense (which he is terrified of doing). Mentally, he's stuck between a rock and a hard place, and is choking up.

[Quint]

Wow, pacing issues is right.

The whole dominus thing was infuriating. Specifically, rewind nor chromedome consider that reversing the domestication might be the crew's only way offworld?

That whole moment felt really truncated considering it's gravity.

If the series had been cancelled abruptly, I'd understand this. As it is, with the whole mystery being resolved out of nowhere, I don't understand it.

Also, is Roberts giving Rodimus any redeeming qualities? He just seems to be a 2 dimensional douche bag in MTMTE. Pity.

I actually kind of like MTMTE rodimus. He isn't a squeaky clean kid who wants to do good for good's sake, at least not entirely. He wants to be a hero for all the wrong reasons. At least he's had a bit of development in refusing the list and apologizing to drift. Though I will agree that his making the same kind of mistakes has been going on since before the war ended when he let swindle ofall people get the best of him.

I really want a scene where he royally screws up and has Megatron of all people sit him down and tell him off. Megatron, I think has been a much better captain than rodimus.

I know what you mean about liking his faults, I once thought the same.

Rung working out that Rodimus was only lamenting the fact it wasn't him who saved the day in the aftermath of the Overlord battle was rather complex.

Prime lambasting him for invoking the crisis of command vote for his own ego, rather than morality. That was fascinating too.

Yet the character is caught in something of a flatline. Which makes sense for a "Turbo revvin young punk" who is in fact 4 million years old, I suppose...

Also, apologies if someone has mentioned this already:

Minimus. Dominus. Spark brothers. One is a minesweeper. The other a feline. Hm. Ok.

[MrBlack]

Wow, pacing issues is right.

The whole dominus thing was infuriating. Specifically, rewind nor chromedome consider that reversing the domestication might be the crew's only way offworld?

That whole moment felt really truncated considering it's gravity.

If the series had been cancelled abruptly, I'd understand this. As it is, with the whole mystery being resolved out of nowhere, I don't understand it.

Also, is Roberts giving Rodimus any redeeming qualities? He just seems to be a 2 dimensional douche bag in MTMTE. Pity.

I actually kind of like MTMTE rodimus. He isn't a squeaky clean kid who wants to do good for good's sake, at least not entirely. He wants to be a hero for all the wrong reasons. At least he's had a bit of development in refusing the list and apologizing to drift. Though I will agree that his making the same kind of mistakes has been going on since before the war ended when he let swindle ofall people get the best of him.

I really want a scene where he royally screws up and has Megatron of all people sit him down and tell him off. Megatron, I think has been a much better captain than rodimus.

I know what you mean about liking his faults, I once thought the same.

Rung working out that Rodimus was only lamenting the fact it wasn't him who saved the day in the aftermath of the Overlord battle was rather complex.

Prime lambasting him for invoking the crisis of command vote for his own ego, rather than morality. That was fascinating too.

Yet the character is caught in something of a flatline. Which makes sense for a "Turbo revvin young punk" who is in fact 4 million years old, I suppose...

Also, apologies if someone has mentioned this already:

Minimus. Dominus. Spark brothers. One is a minesweeper. The other a feline. Hm. Ok.

Being spark brothers doesn't necessarily mean that your alt-modes are the same. Needlenose and Tracks are an example of that.

Also, we saw Minimus turn into a minesweeper in the alternate timeline, but that was in his armor. Dominus' armored form looked rather similar, rather than having the turbofox kibble of his "irreducible" form. It's possible that Minimus' smallest form may have a different alt-mode.

[DarkEnergon]

Can anyone please answer why megatron goes from been courageous in one issue to being a coward in the next issue

He's afraid of who he used to be - that if he starts killing, he won't be able to stop again.

When it was just him facing Tarn, he was happy to let Tarn kill him without fighting back. The fact he's alone is an important part - he thought that by sacrificing himself he could save his comrades' lives without having to fight. That satisfies his desire to protect his comrades without forcing him to kill.

However, now Megatron would be alongside his Autobot comrades, a situation which would force him to fight and kill in their defense (which he is terrified of doing). Mentally, he's stuck between a rock and a hard place, and is choking up.

This helps me like Megatron in this issue a little more - I'm kind of ready for him to strap on the fusion cannon, chomp on some energon flowers, and beat some ass, but wouldn't be consistent with his development.

Rodimus, now, I think is awesome. I mean, it's awesome how Roberts is developing him. He's kind of a jerk, but not a Getaway jerk, and it's always up in the air just how much he deserves what he gets - he's clearly goodhearted, but it competes with his ego. Not too different from a lot of famous personalities.

[SW's SilverHammer]

So is it safe to say at this point tarn's probably roller?

[D-Maximal_Primal]

So is it safe to say at this point tarn's probably roller?

Randomhero will tell you Proteus, but considering Dom is now out of the running, Roller is the most obvious and (except for Proteus, which I really don't see) probably the only option

[Rodimus Prime]

So is it safe to say at this point tarn's probably roller?

Randomhero will tell you Proteus, but considering Dom is now out of the running, Roller is the most obvious and (except for Proteus, which I really don't see) probably the only option

Do Barber and Roberts keep the characters and stories totally separate and independent of each other? It's not possible that it could be any character (Nova Prime?) from the other ongoing series, in a sort-of in-house crossover?

[Va'al]

So is it safe to say at this point tarn's probably roller?

Randomhero will tell you Proteus, but considering Dom is now out of the running, Roller is the most obvious and (except for Proteus, which I really don't see) probably the only option

Do Barber and Roberts keep the characters and stories totally separate and independent of each other? It's not possible that it could be any character (Nova Prime?) from the other ongoing series, in a sort-of in-house crossover?

They are definitely not independent of each other, though MTMTE tends to be (in-universe) a little behind what happens in The Transformers. Or has been, for Combiner Wars, may be catching up soon.