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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Va'al » Mon Jul 16, 2018 11:44 am

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Va'al wrote:Which I'm quite happy to be fine with - I don't need all the answers, I'm okay with that - just an extra question buzzing around my head.
I really do want to know how and why Galvatron cared enough about Onyx's "return" to reference it just before dying. I don't expect to find out.


To get a bizarre supervillain character trait back as reference in this week's comic..?


But true, I don't really care about, say, what happened to the Predacons after Revolutionaries. "Destro sent them to live on a farm" is my accepted canon.


Nsh, it's a plot of land next to a steelworks plant. Y'know, for the flames.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:12 pm

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I now unicron 6# to end with a panel of the Predacons living next near that plant...
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:11 am

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Dammit, I only read Lost Light (and TAAO) and now in this Unicron issue I learn that Shockwave founded the original 13 primes, W T F??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Where/when was this revealed?

Also, I wasnt too fond of this issue. I feel like not much happened, even though Caminus blew up. Also kinda pissed that the beast wars characters are all just cannon fodder.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby ScottyP » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:43 am

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william-james88 wrote:Dammit, I only read Lost Light (and TAAO) and now in this Unicron issue I learn that Shockwave founded the original 13 primes, W T F??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Where/when was this revealed?

Also, I wasnt too fond of this issue. I feel like not much happened, even though Caminus blew up. Also kinda pissed that the beast wars characters are all just cannon fodder.
The Shockwave stuff was in Optimus Prime's "The Falling" arc, which wraps up tomorrow. Yay scheduling?

I'd be more upset with the Beast Wars crew if the continuity weren't ending. At least now they're getting to make an appearance at all!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby william-james88 » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:56 am

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william-james88 wrote:Dammit, I only read Lost Light (and TAAO) and now in this Unicron issue I learn that Shockwave founded the original 13 primes, W T F??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Where/when was this revealed?

Also, I wasnt too fond of this issue. I feel like not much happened, even though Caminus blew up. Also kinda pissed that the beast wars characters are all just cannon fodder.
The Shockwave stuff was in Optimus Prime's "The Falling" arc, which wraps up tomorrow. Yay scheduling?

I'd be more upset with the Beast Wars crew if the continuity weren't ending. At least now they're getting to make an appearance at all!

Ok, will read up on that then.

And did you notice that the evergreen designs are popping up in the comics. I know you hypothesised that these designs were to unify the look in the reboot to the comics but we are seeing them now in both Shockwave and Bumblebee. That Shockwave looks just like the cyberverse toy we are getting.
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Re: IDW Transformers Comics - Road to Unicron

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:49 am

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Daniel Adkins wrote:Well of course you aren’t going to care about the events of the finale if you didn’t actually read the stuff that came before. You don’t care about the deaths Mad-Eye Moody, Tonks and Lupin, Dobby, or Hedwig if you start reading Harry Potter at the Deathly Hallows.



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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:52 am

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Not sure I understand the reference when lead foot only appeared just to die a page or so later...though while I'm here I now fully understand why unicron was summoned in the first place and I think in terms of silliness it really does take the biscuit. The fact that everything from here on out is (the character in question) fault
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:56 am

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The death in #1 to me was just another Leadfoot. I'm reading this for Unicron, so the preamble from OP/LL doesn't really interest me beyond that.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:22 pm

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Ah now I see your debate better, Dan is arguing you would care about the deaths if you were more invested whole you, as you say, are only there for unicron.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby AllNewSuperRobot » Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:43 pm

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Exactly. I tapped out of IDWverse because I didn't like what was being done in MTMTE/LL/RiD/OP. Reading the occasional story in the TF Part-Work, I still don't. But Unicron, is one of those characters that gives me real nostalgia and genuine excitement.

I like larger than life concepts. Which is why I prefer the Cybertronian cars and spaceships of G1 Post-Movie over the Earth-Based altmodes, from before it. Those I always found generic and boring. You don't get more 'larger than life' than a Transforming Planet.
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Re: IDW Transformers Comics - Road to Unicron

Postby Daniel Adkins » Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:30 pm

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Daniel Adkins wrote:Well of course you aren’t going to care about the events of the finale if you didn’t actually read the stuff that came before. You don’t care about the deaths Mad-Eye Moody, Tonks and Lupin, Dobby, or Hedwig if you start reading Harry Potter at the Deathly Hallows.



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This is Unicron's story, hence his name in the title. That's all you need to know.

See, that's your problem right there. This isn't a story about Unicron. It's a story about how Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Windblade, Starscream and everyone else RESPONDS to Unicron, much in the same way the original Godzilla isn't about the titular monster as a character, but about the reactions of the people. Again, this is the finale of years worth of stories.

Also, your Leadfoot point is shifting goalposts and a really weak argument.
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iTunes Preview for IDW Transformers: Unicron

Postby Va'al » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:43 pm

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Thanks to iTunes, we have a short three-page preview of the next issue of the series to end all series in the IDW publishing Transformers comics - Unicron #2, due out in the next couple of weeks. Check it out below, and join the conversation!

Bumblebee investigates a dark corner of Cybertron’s past, searching for answers: what is Unicron, and why does it want to destroy Cybertron? Meanwhile, Windblade scrambles to figure out a plan as Chromia makes her return—with a Decepticon fleet in pursuit!


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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby steve2275 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 1:53 pm

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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Jul 19, 2018 2:08 pm

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Well it was nice to see bludgeon again before all the cons get wiped...though I always thought bludgeon would be one to end up throwing in his lot with unicron, cest la vie
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Randomhero » Thu Jul 19, 2018 3:52 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Well it was nice to see bludgeon again before all the cons get wiped...though I always thought bludgeon would be one to end up throwing in his lot with unicron, cest la vie


I believe he was referring to shockwave as his master in OP. Makes sense he’s back under the Decepticons. Starscream fixed him and now he serves him.
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Ful Preview for IDW Transformers: Unicron #2

Postby Va'al » Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:47 am

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Out this week with IDW Publishing are three new issues in their Transformers comics as we rush towards the end of it all in the Summer of Transformers - with our final preview below for the second chapter of the Transformers: Unicron mini-series that will bring an end to the IDW Hasbro universe as we currently know it.

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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:01 am

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Now that's interesting, will unicron be something that ancient cybertonians created (or more likely) be something that thy came across and woke up when they should have left be. Plus with the title 'strange eons' I'm getting small lovecraftian vibes...which I'm a-okay with!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 24, 2018 10:25 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Now that's interesting, will unicron be something that ancient cybertonians created (or more likely) be something that thy came across and woke up when they should have left be. Plus with the title 'strange eons' I'm getting small lovecraftian vibes...which I'm a-okay with!



I love speculating about the comics but without unicron I just can’t. I don’t think he’s robot Satan and I don’t think Primus existed or was a god and I can’t even fathom what he is. I’m really going into this series with no speculations for once. I feel like Shockwave In Marvel when he see unicron and his brain breaks.

“Can’t...figure...out...logic...logic...not...makes...sense...”
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Silverwing » Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:11 pm

Decepticon Vengeance Division, eh? That's pretty cool! And the acronym is ironically funny. Who's afraid of the D.V.D.?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Randomhero » Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:51 pm

Oh god re the Decepticons pulling a nova corps from guardians of the galaxy!? That’s not gonna work guys!
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

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IDW Transformers: Unicron #2 Review

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Bumblebee investigates a dark corner of Cybertron’s past, searching for answers: what is Unicron, and why does it want to destroy Cybertron? Meanwhile, Windblade scrambles to figure out a plan as Chromia makes her return—with a Decepticon fleet in pursuit!


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Tonight I'm so Alone, This Sorrow takes a hold


Story

And here we are again, on issue 2 of 6 of the grand IDW finale. Unicron is here. Unicron has killed planets and fan favorites. Unicron is unstoppable and unquestionably powerful.

Does part 2 of the tale live up to the hype? Just wait and see!

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Your Touch used to be so kind, Your Touch used to give me Life


So to catch up, Issue 0 was the first attack by Unicron, and in a way Issue 1 was a longer version of 0 with some more material and more action and attack and Maximals. So issue 2 was the fallout, the scene of defeat, the realization that Unicron had no weakness and burns full bore for Cybertron now. And the way the different characters were placed in that context was quite enjoyable to read.

We get some good ole fashioned Starscream, to an extent. We get some optimistic Bumblebee, paired with the used to be equally as optimistic but still very eager to at least do something Aileron, and then Optimus, more Starscream, and the council. Old plotlines and characterizations continue, even older plotlines and characters make returns, and it all blends together quite well. We got some history, we got some resolutions, and we got more questions to be asked. And we got a killer final 2 pages.

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Story wise, Starscream is a standout here. Also important is Bludgeon, and his attack on Unicron and position in the grand scheme of things. At this point, Bludgeon is a con to keep an eye on, like really, go back and read all his adventures post Death of Optimus Prime, and then finish with this one.

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Falling in the Black, Slipping through the Cracks


Finally, as a nod to the Hasbro Universe itself, we get 3 different stories worth of appearances and 2 different creation/backstories, with the 3rd actually being a back up comic featuring a well known Maximal and the final stand of Scarlett's Strike Force.

Is it a filler issue? Yes, it is. It is the lull between storms. Is it a boring or not overly good filler? Absolutely not. It gives us so much, it still gives action, it still has the characters, it still has all the moments, and it has the perfect build up and a great lead in to the next. It is serialized, but it does not suffer all that badly for it.

And in case you forgot, Skywarp is equally as fun as Starscream. Now all we needed was a Thundercracker appearance and we would have had seeker gold.

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Art

Simply put, the marriage of artist and colorist for this series could not have been any more perfect. And this is not just me, this is the Seibertron.com review room talking here folks. You cannot beat the lines of Milne fused with the colors of Cheng. You can't, it's that simple.

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Falling to the Depths can I ever go back?


The vast backgrounds and equally vast cast, the uniqueness of each Cybertronian's design, the fun of space and the grounds of Cybertron, it all looks and feels so good. And it owes everything to Milne and Cheng. They have done fantastic for all 3 Unicron titles released so far, and there is no indication that we should expect less in the remaining 4. And if the last page is anything to go by, epic will still fail to describe the coming events.

And a final nod to the important final part of the art team: Tom B. Long. Letters are so easy to overlook, but in this issue, between Bludgeon, Omega Supreme, and the rest of the cast, the letters get a chance to shine, and it is fantastic at how many different ways you can create a conversation.

Well done crew!

Final Thoughts

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As you can tell, this issue was mainly character driven, by interactions between characters fresh back for their final appearances. It has some action, some backstory, some main story, and bit of final payoffs. It was a good story with excellent art, and a great lead in that managed to not bore the audience nor make them think anything less than a good story is ahead.

With that all in mind, despite what we learned here, next issue cannot come soon enough. We have reached what appears to be the big moment fairly early in the story. While it may not be the climax of the story itself, it still will be big and fun, especially with characters by Barber and art by Milne, Cheng, and Long.

Have a score, and let's get on to that issue 3 folks.

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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby ZeroWolf » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:17 am

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Good review d-max! To think we're already a third of the way through this series...
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Re: IDW Transformers: Unicron Mini-Series Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:23 am

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Good stuff in here D-Max!

The way in which Starscream is being re-used, with Optimus Prime's reaction to it all, is a very nice way of playing with a character that has been established as mercurial but also considering the developments he's been through in recent stories.

I do wonder what on earth Bumblebee's role in all of this is, and I'm still not too keen on his return right now. Much as I wasn't with Shockwave. I mean, what's done is done, but still...


As for Unicron's true nature, and that organic character showing up - I know there's a lot of talk about that behind the scenes, but I don't know what I make of it. Yet. :-?
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