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fenrir72 wrote:First post troll?![]()
Burn wrote:fenrir72 wrote:First post troll?![]()
This is how you greet people? ugh ...
No more of that please, from anyone.
To get back on topic, I get where crash8burnt is coming from. For me personally, I thought Binaltech/Alternators was an fantastic line. Licensed vehicles (with great detailing like car seats, steering wheels and dashboards) that turned into equally impressive robot modes.
Alternity was just an extension of that line to me.
Masterpieces? Well they are what they are, they're meant to represent the best of both modes, in other words, what's on the outside. Interior design isn't a factor, only how both modes look on the outside.
So comparing them is like apples and oranges, both look and taste different, and each serves their own purpose and has their own fans.
fenrir72 wrote:But if you would use that standard, would Binaltech Optimus Prime/KISSPlayers Convoy ( only part of the series I retained) or Alternator Optimus Prime be considered more MP than MP-10?
Burn wrote:fenrir72 wrote:But if you would use that standard, would Binaltech Optimus Prime/KISSPlayers Convoy ( only part of the series I retained) or Alternator Optimus Prime be considered more MP than MP-10?
Apples and oranges. Heck, when it comes to Optimus Prime/Convoy, you just can't compare Masterpiece and BT/Alt. They're completely different.
The likes of Tracks and Prowl however...
fenrir72 wrote:The oomph factor of the weight and metals really does make the line stand out. Too bad the line died.
crash8burnt wrote:or blow-up the Alternity/Binaltech/Alternators size!
crash8burnt wrote:I like to listen to others opinions on MP through this post, be it for or against. No hard feelings if 1 felt offended. I do own a few MPs, not the whole line. Agreed with Burn, we can't really compare apples to oranges, and I also like Binaltech/Alternators, Kiss players. I also agreed that MPs have very nice details and looks great. I just wish that TT would incorporated the detailed interior design into MPs, or blow-up the Alternity/Binaltech/Alternators size!
Cyberpath wrote:Are "Masterpieces" truly masterpieces? Absolutely.
I'd say the line borderlines on sorcery -- I don't know how Takara manages to cram both a real-world car model, and a (highly poseable) cartoon-accurate robot into the same toy.
Plus, there's the robot-scale that Hasui had implemented starting with MP-10; and all those accessories..
The paint apps, sculpting and proportions are fantastic and sleek. Just look at Prowl there, he looks like a fashion model.
Can't say I'm remotely bothered by car interiors and moving steering wheels in TF toys. I guess these are cool in non-transforming diecast model cars.
ScottyP wrote:I can actually see this perspective. Sounds like you're looking for ultra detailed, perfect vehicle modes. Masterpiece in its current incarnation is very much skewed towards providing robot modes that scale and evoke the original cartoon series. The alt modes are secondary with it, so yeah, if those are your priority then it'd be hard to get on the MP hype train.
Is it more accurate than MP-11? I never owned the original. Thinking about picking up TRU's MP Screamer.william-james88 wrote:EDIT: The most accurate Jet alt mode ever though is the original Masterpiece Starscream.
Rodimus Prime wrote:Is it more accurate than MP-11? I never owned the original. Thinking about picking up TRU's MP Screamer.william-james88 wrote:EDIT: The most accurate Jet alt mode ever though is the original Masterpiece Starscream.
As for Alternity, I've owned only a couple of them, and never got into them. They're sharp figures, but they're essentially the same. To me Transformers in general (and thus the MP line) are interesting because each individual figure is different, except for the repaints. IMO, most of the Alternity figures are pretty much repaints of one another, with a few variations. The only Alternity figure I have an active interest in owning is GT-R Maximus.
I think that what makes a MP is not how real the alt mode is to real life, but how faithful the figure is to the character on the screen or on the page. By that definition, Alternity has nothing on Masterpiece. The alt modes do look really sharp.
RAR wrote:HFTD Leader Starscream or the Japanese exclusive version is a way better toy than any version of the MP-03 Lineage, thought I do have a small fondness for the iGear Ramjet homage.
I really can't state enough how poor I think the MP-03 toy is "as a toy" as model plane it's nice enough as a static shelf-piece it's also fine as a toy - I could likely poke holes in what is wrong with it all afternoon. It's not like the redux version fixed much either - heck the iGear ones at least have better ankles.
So yeah is someone said you would like one of them as a display piece I say sure for something to sit in a case they look super nice - but since I like to play with my toys I just can't share the love tonight I'm afraid when it comes to that design.
But as I said before I see why people like them - they are just not my cup of tea.
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