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Who do you think should be the next Big Bad? I personally think it should be Unicron. I figure they open it up with the humans tossing the bodies of the Decepticons into space and low and behold the bodies are eaten up by a dormant Unicron who is awoken by remaining energon and sets his sites on earth. They can even use the "blood of unciron" to reanimate some of our old favorite villain as zombies that way it can be like Dawn of the Dead transformers style.

Personally, I’d like the Big Baddy to be someone brand new. Someone very powerful, intelligent and charismatic, and vicious enough to give some of the more ambivalent Decepticons the shakes as he takes charge and gathers their scattered ranks together from wherever they’re hiding out on Earth and elsewhere in our solar system. In fact, I’d like to see a couple of the Decepticons get so scared that they defect, two old-style Seekers perhaps, one Thundercracker (because I like him), the other a new guy. Reason: I’d just like to see the Autobots’ ranks bolstered by two actual flyers, plus which I’d LOVE to see how our new angry!/Optimus would handle such a situation, ie. acknowledging their genuine potential value versus his constant new inclination to smash them both flat on sight.

in my opinion, there will be a 4th movie and it will be back on cybertron in the great war

I'd like to see some elements of Animated, Armada and Prime mixed in.

Something like...

MECH is a group formed by an ex-Sector 7 agent controlling a militia, who takes over D.C. and using the technology created from Megatron and stolen All Spark shards, creates new life.

The Mini-Cons. Intended to be weaponry, but along the way we find out they have Sparks and consciences and want to be free of war and help Optimus to fight to secure their freedom.

Find out that one of the Mini-Cons was meant to be a hidden weapon in the form of a girl named Sari. (Come to find out, she's a walking, breathing, ticking time bomb who just wants to be normal and needs Autobot help)

And what they don't know is that by using the All Spark shards, they send out a signal and more Decepticons come to Earth when they detect the energy readings and the Mini-Cons.

Leading into the next chapter (movie 5), which could consist of a desperate race such as the Junkions, needing defense from an empire like Jhiaxus's Decepticons. But with a change... Created by the All Spark, but not from Cybertron.

Something like that. If I can spitball something like this, someone with real talent could come along and make a new storyline, keeping the current bots and humans, with a new villain and new reason to be.

I like the way you're thinking of using Unicron, but I just don't think he'd work in the live-action movies, at least not if he's the planet-eater he was in G1. He's just too big. Any shot where we can see all (or even half) of him wouldn't have any other visible Transformers.

I'm not really sure whom I'd want the villain to be, but if they could work Galvatron in, that would be cool. I wouldn't want him to be a resurrected Megatron, though, since he's already been resurrected once. He should either be a new character, or something like a clone of Megatron.

aharro1111 wrote:in my opinion, there will be a 4th movie and it will be back on cybertron in the great war

Well think this is the best idea, since the human actors are no more around. It will be a great thing to see more Transformers and action in the screen, I think it will be a bit like War for Cybertron, the movie should be like a flashback or something. And maybe we will see war for cybertron 2 based on this fourth movie

Lord Scurge wrote:Who do you think should be the next Big Bad? I personally think it should be Unicron.

Not a bad idea, but if done, i think they need to do something different than Megs and the rest of the dead decepticons tossed into space. Its been done already. HOw should it be done? That i haven't figured out myself. But then again i
m no movie writer. .

Also keep in mind that if Unicron is brought in, thats going to eat up 50% of the movies budget. Every movie they did something bigger to out due the other (ROTF had devestator, and DOTM had the driller). Each almost crashed the computers at IDM, so Unicron will surely due the same. How is this bad? Less on screen robot time. I know there are quite a few who were fairly content with the screen time we have been given, but for those that want more robot focus, something big like Unicron is going to take away from that.
Just say'in.

Please don't give them any ideas from the Aligned Continuity, its bad enough what the films did to elements of previous Transformers series'.

I realize now that I am very, very, VERY content with animated shows and video games exclusively when it comes to the Transformers.

Decepticon_Vandal wrote:Please don't give them any ideas from the Aligned Continuity, its bad enough what the films did to elements of previous Transformers series'.

I realize now that I am very, very, VERY content with animated shows and video games exclusively when it comes to the Transformers.

I can see that you and I are going to have problems. Your other post, you went off on me pretty badly, and your apology was rather hollow.

Now, you're in this thread telling us what we can or cannot do?

Not going to win points here, chief.

Decepticon_Vandal wrote:Please don't give them any ideas from the Aligned Continuity, its bad enough what the films did to elements of previous Transformers series'.

I realize now that I am very, very, VERY content with animated shows and video games exclusively when it comes to the Transformers.

Considering every Transformers series is more or less a seperate continuity with it's own unique aspects I fail to see what the movies "did to the elements of the previous Transformers series," as you put it.

Back on topic below this line!!!

Honestly, I want to see the Quintesons take the Big Bad position for the next movie. Sure, Season 3 of G1 was pretty much crap and the Quintesons were one of the crappier aspects, but think about the potential here. Ancient eldritch beings that appear to be hybrids of mechanical and organic life with ties to the Transformer's origins. That base concept is full of potential to expand upon, and I do loves me some Eldritch Abominations when it comes to villianous forces.

Autobot032 wrote:

Decepticon_Vandal wrote:Please don't give them any ideas from the Aligned Continuity, its bad enough what the films did to elements of previous Transformers series'.

I realize now that I am very, very, VERY content with animated shows and video games exclusively when it comes to the Transformers.

I can see that you and I are going to have problems. Your other post, you went off on me pretty badly, and your apology was rather hollow.

Now, you're in this thread telling us what we can or cannot do?

Not going to win points here, chief.

It was not a demand, it was more of a plea. Also, I'm expressing an opinion, not trying to win the hearts and minds of the people, just tossing my two cents. But, hey, I guess I was wrong when I believed forums were a place to speak your mind. Should I not have a contrary opinion? Can I not voice it?

But whatever, this isn't important, I won't try to throw this guy's thread off topic any more than it has.

Continuing. From a logical perspective, should the series continue further on the same tangent, Unicron makes the most sense. I think the Quintessons idea is pretty interesting, but I doubt the public audience would really buy into it.

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KingEmperor wrote:http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Violen_Jiger

There are certainly enough slain decepticons, that's for sure

For all the people who keep bringing up Unicron... that would be very VERY hard to accomplish, the render times of something that size would be the longest, Devastator melted a computer, Unicron could destroy several.

HoundimusPrime wrote:For all the people who keep bringing up Unicron... that would be very VERY hard to accomplish, the render times of something that size would be the longest, Devastator melted a computer, Unicron could destroy several.

They can mostly do scaling, just make the model with similar dimensions to a normal-sized Transformer scaled up. From a distance it won't even look bad at all, for close ups they can just use a hi-res segment.

Decepticon_Vandal wrote:

HoundimusPrime wrote:For all the people who keep bringing up Unicron... that would be very VERY hard to accomplish, the render times of something that size would be the longest, Devastator melted a computer, Unicron could destroy several.

They can mostly do scaling, just make the model with similar dimensions to a normal-sized Transformer scaled up. From a distance it won't even look bad at all, for close ups they can just use a hi-res segment.

EXACTLY! Super animate and detail certain parts, like the head and arms and whatevr other parts that do mass destruction. CYBERTRON was in DOTM, and it was'nt exactly Perfect. But it was pulled off, wasn't it? I liked it. so, a fully animated part were they bust in, insides animated, all that stuff.

Actually, to accommodate Unicron I might do something a touch different - like NOT showing him in a physical form of any kind.

Now mind you, I don't mean going the "Cloudlactus" route - I mean NOT SHOWING HIM, beyond possibly some ancient Cybertronian scribble dug up somewhere that shows some primitive scrawl of some big devil-horned, bat-winged, vaguely-humanoid armored figure - Unicron in his original form, I guess, so as to give SOMETHING to Hasbro to make a toy out of. Basically, I'd turn him into a more intangible and unseen demigod who wants our planet for something BESIDES good eatin', wink, wink.

And yes, I said OUR planet. Assuming there's actually anything left of Cybertron - personally, I like to think that there isn't, for reasons that I think would make great sequel fodder later on - the threat IMO just isn't going to be strong enough if it's a planet other than ours in jeopardy.

Jaw Crusher wrote:Actually, to accommodate Unicron I might do something a touch different - like NOT showing him in a physical form of any kind.

Now mind you, I don't mean going the "Cloudlactus" route - I mean NOT SHOWING HIM, beyond possibly some ancient Cybertronian scribble dug up somewhere that shows some primitive scrawl of some big devil-horned, bat-winged, vaguely-humanoid armored figure - Unicron in his original form, I guess, so as to give SOMETHING to Hasbro to make a toy out of. Basically, I'd turn him into a more intangible and unseen demigod who wants our planet for something BESIDES good eatin', wink, wink.

And yes, I said OUR planet. Assuming there's actually anything left of Cybertron - personally, I like to think that there isn't, for reasons that I think would make great sequel fodder later on - the threat IMO just isn't going to be strong enough if it's a planet other than ours in jeopardy.

A good idea but you gotta remember the Transformers fanbase is still carrying torches and pitchforks over the movieverse character designs. What makes you think it wouldn't be a worse reaction to Unicron going from tangible threat to intangible Fantastic Four 2-esque Galactus thing? Their collective nerdrage would ignite the atmosphere (or at least their neckbeards).

If they were adapt a villain,i think it would be cool to see Thunderwing or Jhiaxus.
If they were to use Unicron,i think it would be interesting to see more the Chaos Bringer aspect in favor of the Planet Eater or they could make a new triology to build up for him in the final.

Capt.Failure wrote:

Jaw Crusher wrote:Actually, to accommodate Unicron I might do something a touch different - like NOT showing him in a physical form of any kind.

Now mind you, I don't mean going the "Cloudlactus" route - I mean NOT SHOWING HIM, beyond possibly some ancient Cybertronian scribble dug up somewhere that shows some primitive scrawl of some big devil-horned, bat-winged, vaguely-humanoid armored figure - Unicron in his original form, I guess, so as to give SOMETHING to Hasbro to make a toy out of. Basically, I'd turn him into a more intangible and unseen demigod who wants our planet for something BESIDES good eatin', wink, wink.

And yes, I said OUR planet. Assuming there's actually anything left of Cybertron - personally, I like to think that there isn't, for reasons that I think would make great sequel fodder later on - the threat IMO just isn't going to be strong enough if it's a planet other than ours in jeopardy.

A good idea but you gotta remember the Transformers fanbase is still carrying torches and pitchforks over the movieverse character designs. What makes you think it wouldn't be a worse reaction to Unicron going from tangible threat to intangible Fantastic Four 2-esque Galactus thing? Their collective nerdrage would ignite the atmosphere (or at least their neckbeards).

Yeah, what else is new?

You could do Unicron as the new main villain but just do like they did in the Cybertron toy line. They did a figure of him where he was scaled down to, I guess you could call it normal TF size, and his alt mode was a badass looking tank.

They pretty much left him with his God-like powers they just scaled his size down. Do something like that and he could come to Earth and do his thing with the fallen Decepticons and *poof* their's your next movie.


Here's a link to the figure I was talking about, http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/toys/cybertron/unicron/908/

Decepticon_Vandal wrote:

KingEmperor wrote:http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Violen_Jiger

There are certainly enough slain decepticons, that's for sure

Haha, so true. Although in seriousness I want Unicron, but I think he'll be hard to pull off on the big screen. I can settle with Jhiaxus, Thunderwing, or Bludgeon. They were awesome leaders.

I'd like to see a new trilogy with a completely different universe. Have the TF be more classic in desing. Less humans, more robots.
But that's too simple to be made.

Kanrabat- wrote:I'd like to see a new trilogy with a completely different universe. Have the TF be more classic in desing. Less humans, more robots.
But that's too simple to be made.

I agree with you in one thing, more robots more action, like i said TF4 must be set during the civil war between autbots and decepticon at cybertron....Which means we will see no more humans, i know it will take more money but will earn lots of money, it will be an International success

Rexsaur wrote: I agree with you in one thing, more robots more action, like i said TF4 must be set during the civil war between autbots and decepticon at cybertron....Which means we will see no more humans, i know it will take more money but will earn lots of money, it will be an International success

I would love to agree with this, but I am not sure this movie would make as much money as we would like. It would draw TF fans like gangbusters, but we only make up a fraction of the audience these movies are aimed at....without general appeal the movie would be hard-pressed to recoup its costs. And I don't know if it can have general appeal without a human factor.