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Postby Scaleface » Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:33 pm

Do we know for a fact that the BODIES of Prowl and Ironhide were in the mosoleum? Maybe the Quintessons repaired them all and took them as slaves, and they were rescued in US season 5, which never aired?

Of course maybe they are just Action Master Prowl and G2 Ironhide?
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Postby i_amtrunks » Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:54 pm

Scaleface wrote:Do we know for a fact that the BODIES of Prowl and Ironhide were in the mosoleum? Maybe the Quintessons repaired them all and took them as slaves, and they were rescued in US season 5, which never aired?

Of course maybe they are just Action Master Prowl and G2 Ironhide?


Quite Possibly.

Isnt anything G1 toon based all conjecture and guesswork anyways? :P I'd almost prefer that they went along with the comics, where abslutely everyone was brought back by the last Autobot, it would make sense as to where all these news bots and cons (Maximals and preds) all came from, they were either already dead before G1 started, or built since the Great War.

It would mean skipping G2 though... :-?
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Postby Leonardo » Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:29 am

Caelus wrote:
Justicity wrote:I'm not saying he ISN'T crazy, but assuming he is copying the original is a bit unfair, it's just a name, you can have two people with the same name.


True, but his Tech Spec suggests that he believes he is G1 Prowl. Before, one assumed that he was G1 Prowl, but that his memories were damaged due to difficulties with his Stasis-Pod. Now one must conclude that:


True. It's not just that TMII Prowl had the same name, same function and the belief that he was a military strategist in a former life. Sentences like, "strives to find logic and reason in everything," "able to analyze and advise on complex combat situations almost instantaneously," and "fires highly corrosive acid pellets" in TMII's bio were direct quotes of G1 Prowl's bio.
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Postby i_amtrunks » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:15 pm

Leonardo wrote:
Caelus wrote:
Justicity wrote:I'm not saying he ISN'T crazy, but assuming he is copying the original is a bit unfair, it's just a name, you can have two people with the same name.


True, but his Tech Spec suggests that he believes he is G1 Prowl. Before, one assumed that he was G1 Prowl, but that his memories were damaged due to difficulties with his Stasis-Pod. Now one must conclude that:


True. It's not just that TMII Prowl had the same name, same function and the belief that he was a military strategist in a former life. Sentences like, "strives to find logic and reason in everything," "able to analyze and advise on complex combat situations almost instantaneously," and "fires highly corrosive acid pellets" in TMII's bio were direct quotes of G1 Prowl's bio.


Surprised Hasbro did not sue themselves for "plagiarism" . :lol:
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Postby Leonardo » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:10 am

Scaleface wrote:Anyways, you see in the scene with Shockaract that one of his three minions (who looks like Cybertronian mode Rartorarta) gets sent to stop Magamtron from meddling with the timelines, and that's when Rartorarta appears on Earth and attacks Ravage, but hits Razorbeast instead.


I gave the issue proper attention last night and the section your talking about here is made pretty obvious. I can't believe I missed the panels where Rartorata is explicitly told to go to Earth.
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Postby Coptur » Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:57 am

Injector and Rartorata are noticbley different colours

as there going by the cartoon not the toy.

B'boom is darker in colour than Apache and it also looks like he might be a bit bigger. i like the fact there doing this.

i want to see how there gonna pull off Scuba and clawjaw, tasmania kid and snarl. i thinks it really brave and an interesting step to take.

stop all the whining.
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Postby ephbot » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:41 pm

One of the strengths of Beast Wars was the amount of character development due to the small cast of characters. That said, I find that to be a little lacking in the IDW Beast Wars comics. Some of that definitely has to do with the huge cast they're working with, but it's a bit disappointing to see such an integral part of the original go by the wayside.

On the other hand, Simon Furman is doing a great job tying up not only the loose ends from Beast Wars (show and toyline), but also Beast Wars II and Beast Wars Neo. The storytelling itself, another strength of the original show (particularly after reintroducing G1 elements), is great, although having to work around such a huge cast is cumbersome at times.

As always, Don Figueroa's pencils are fantastic!
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Postby i_amtrunks » Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:21 pm

I think we will most certainly be given the "real" reason as to how TM2 Megatron escaped from the Ark Escape Pod on its way to Cybertron, possibly setting up the third Beast Wars Story.
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