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Postby Moonbase2 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:02 am

Loki120 wrote:I would love to go on a real ghost hunt, with the infrared video cams, evp, the works. I think it would help me deal with some real life phobias that I have. Crazy as it sounds, I have a phobia of darkness. I know that this is just a phobia, I have no real reason to be afraid of it. At night I have half the lights on in the house, and I can't go to sleep unless the tv is on, if nothing else just so it's not completely dark.


If I had imps in my house, I'd leave the lights on as well. I don't like sleeping with the bathroom door in my room open, or the closet. I don't like the open, pitch-dark space. About 90% of my dreams are terrible nightmares, usually recurring ones about dozens of tornadoes (been having that dream for 11 years straight), my teeth falling out (I've probably had almost 100 dreams about that), or zombies. In my dreams, everything is incredibly detailed and realistic. I even see the rot in the zombies' eyes. You'd think I'd avoid ghost stories, scary movies, or gruesome pictures. But no. I refuse to skip out on things I enjoy. But lately I've been dreaming of Transformers. It's pretty cool. :)
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Postby Moonbase2 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:06 am

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Moonbase2 wrote:Hey, can I ask you something? What's the mouse about?


Thats no mouse sister that is the all might Death of Rats, The GrimSqueaker! And he is a skeletal Rat not a mouse. Rats are smart and caring, mice are one set up from fleas.

Any way to answer your question the "mouse" is all about me!!! I am the grimsqueaker, the end of all things fluffy and squeaky . Its a pretty good job, the hours suck but u get to meet nice people :grin:


In real life it is just a online name i use all the time, the grimsqueaker who wanted to be ur friend on myspace was me too! If u are online and u see grimsqueaker or Grim5queaker it is most likely me.

I wanna get him tattooed on my leg!


Oh and hugo is totally right with regards to his stance on the paranormal. You go girlfriend!


Eh, my aunt really likes rats. She and my uncle are wealthy and their choice of pets are always rats. I find them horribly disgusting (sorry!). I like cute, fluffy things like bunnies, but the minute I buy one I want to kill it. Cute rodents are horribly annoying. I once bought two Siberian hamsters (arguably the cutest things in the world) and became so annoyed by them that I told a lady at work if she didn't take them I'd set them free in the backyard. It worked--they are hers. Actually, they are probably dead by now. Hamsters don't live very long.
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Postby Senor Hugo » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:36 am

Another site for the paranormal. Some of the images are fake, some are neat, and some, some are weird as hell.




Moonbase2 wrote:
Loki120 wrote:I would love to go on a real ghost hunt, with the infrared video cams, evp, the works. I think it would help me deal with some real life phobias that I have. Crazy as it sounds, I have a phobia of darkness. I know that this is just a phobia, I have no real reason to be afraid of it. At night I have half the lights on in the house, and I can't go to sleep unless the tv is on, if nothing else just so it's not completely dark.


If I had imps in my house, I'd leave the lights on as well. I don't like sleeping with the bathroom door in my room open, or the closet. I don't like the open, pitch-dark space. About 90% of my dreams are terrible nightmares, usually recurring ones about dozens of tornadoes (been having that dream for 11 years straight), my teeth falling out (I've probably had almost 100 dreams about that), or zombies. In my dreams, everything is incredibly detailed and realistic. I even see the rot in the zombies' eyes. You'd think I'd avoid ghost stories, scary movies, or gruesome pictures. But no. I refuse to skip out on things I enjoy. But lately I've been dreaming of Transformers. It's pretty cool. :)


Dreams are a funny sort. I have no clue what makes you dream of zombies, teeth falling out, watching a train derail ect.
I figure it could be something to do with something one has seen within a week, something up there in the fresh memory.

I've found you can influence dreams, usually, if you continually think about one thing while waiting to fall asleep. It has something like a 50/50 shot of happening. I used to do it all the time as a kid, had awesome dreams.

The dark sucks, I have a similar phobia, not of the dark. But I hate silence. When I sleep, I have music on, fans going ect. I can't sleep without some kind of noise. If there is complete silence, like if the power goes out. I get paranoid as ****. My brain is instantly alert listening to every little noise.

It's a great phobia to have if your ghost hunting, if your trying to sleep however, it sucks.

As for ghost hunting itself, I've talked to groups on it, haven't done a good ghost hunt in awhile.

Although if anyone does go on a ghost hunt, got a few pointers.

- Don't go looking for ghosts, go looking for a way to disprove ghost sightings.(TAPS may be fake, but they have a solid way to ghost hunt, it makes any unexplainable evidence that much more rewarding)

- Don't go ghost hunting with people who claim to be psychics, people who use dowsing rods to find ghosts, or with people who cast spells. They are all idiots.

- Orbs do not equal ghosts. Orbs are a natural phenomenon, they are just balls of energy.

- If there is paranormal activity, feel free to taunt it. Piss it off to get a reaction. It may try to harm you depending on the type of haunting, but no worries.
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Postby Moonbase2 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:25 pm

Actually, orbs are just dust. That's right. They've proven it.

Dowsing rods are pure quackery, as is ESP. That's my opinion, anyway. I don't really believe in ghosts, which is hard to me to explain away my experience.

I understand the whole no noise thing. I have the hum of my computer to help me sleep. Without it, my ears start to ring. And you hear little noises all over the house.

I am capable of lucid dreaming sometimes. Also, if I think about certain things in my dreams, they often manifest themselves (like the tornadoes). Sometimes, when I don't like how a dream is going, I make myself wake up. Unfortunately, I've been having a new nightmare lately. It's of my older child dying. So far he's been hit by a car in front of my house and drowned at a water park. It's horrifying.
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Postby Senor Hugo » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:34 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:Actually, orbs are just dust. That's right. They've proven it.



Well, yes. Orbs are usually dust. And most of the photos of orbs are in fact dust.

But, Orb are a naturally occurring event. Orbs are just gathered energy.

I'm trying to remember the website, but there is a place in the united states, where you can see orbs with the naked eye, orbs and, dammit for the life of me I can't remember their name. But they're like orbs, only string like.
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Postby GrimSqueaker » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:52 pm

Moonbase2 wrote:
Loki120 wrote:I would love to go on a real ghost hunt, with the infrared video cams, evp, the works. I think it would help me deal with some real life phobias that I have. Crazy as it sounds, I have a phobia of darkness. I know that this is just a phobia, I have no real reason to be afraid of it. At night I have half the lights on in the house, and I can't go to sleep unless the tv is on, if nothing else just so it's not completely dark.


If I had imps in my house, I'd leave the lights on as well. I don't like sleeping with the bathroom door in my room open, or the closet. I don't like the open, pitch-dark space. About 90% of my dreams are terrible nightmares, usually recurring ones about dozens of tornadoes (been having that dream for 11 years straight), my teeth falling out (I've probably had almost 100 dreams about that), or zombies. In my dreams, everything is incredibly detailed and realistic. I even see the rot in the zombies' eyes. You'd think I'd avoid ghost stories, scary movies, or gruesome pictures. But no. I refuse to skip out on things I enjoy. But lately I've been dreaming of Transformers. It's pretty cool. :)


The worst dreams i ever had were when i was working nights, i would have when i was working night shifts-i had long detailed dreams of everyday life, then id wake up and the house was empty and it was mid-day, it was really scary.

I love having Zombie dreams, they are the best!



Does anyone here do any sort of occult stuff? I have been doing Tarot ammoungst other things for years-ive never gotten a reading wrong.
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Postby Senor Hugo » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:55 pm

Tarot cards, not so much. But yeah, I delve into the occult.

Talismans mostly. They seem to be the only thing that really works(for me at least).

I read up on demons, angels, gem-magic, 'spells' anything having to deal with the occult. To say I'm not a nut-bag when it comes to the paranormal, is an understatement. I prefer the occult to Transformers.
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Postby Spoon » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:22 pm

I think you are badsh!t crazy Hugo.
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Postby Senor Hugo » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:35 pm

Spoon wrote:I think you are badsh!t crazy Hugo.


Damn skippy, but if demons and/or zombies show up, I'll be ready for em.
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Postby Moonbase2 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:43 pm

I enjoy some good ghost stories and stuff, but I don't believe in any real paranormal anything. It's just for entertainment, folks. Those tarot card readers that you pay for base their readings off of how you look and act.
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Postby Spoon » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:13 pm

Senor Hugo wrote:
Spoon wrote:I think you are badsh!t crazy Hugo.


Damn skippy, but if demons and/or zombies show up, I'll be ready for em.
True True :lol:
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Postby Loki120 » Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:02 pm

GrimSqueaker wrote:Does anyone here do any sort of occult stuff? I have been doing Tarot ammoungst other things for years-ive never gotten a reading wrong.


My wife does Tarot, I'm a bit too pragmatic for all that. She does get some stuff spot on though, that's pretty impressive.

- Don't go looking for ghosts, go looking for a way to disprove ghost sightings.(TAPS may be fake, but they have a solid way to ghost hunt, it makes any unexplainable evidence that much more rewarding)

- Don't go ghost hunting with people who claim to be psychics, people who use dowsing rods to find ghosts, or with people who cast spells. They are all idiots.

- Orbs do not equal ghosts. Orbs are a natural phenomenon, they are just balls of energy.

- If there is paranormal activity, feel free to taunt it. Piss it off to get a reaction. It may try to harm you depending on the type of haunting, but no worries.


TAPS fake? Take it back! Just kidding. I love Ghost Hunters simply for the campiness of it all. And the envy, I would love to go to some of the places that they go to.

I don't believe in psychics. While I do believe that some people have an incredible ability to pick up subtle details and come to some pretty impressive conclusions. Also, everyone has a built in "sixth sense" (for lack of a better term) warning device which tends to scream at you when you know something it wrong. Some people are just better at picking it up better than others. Dowing rods are just crap, and hate it when they use them on Ghost Hunters. It ruins the illusion.

I hate orb photos. They show nothing. It's dust, light reflecting off the lenses of the camera, etc.
Show me a real ball of energy without the use of mechanical equipment and I'm all about that

What do you all think about EVP? I know a lot of it is what you hear in your head, but still, I've heard some pretty impressively clear ones.
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Postby Senor Hugo » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:08 am

Loki120 wrote:
GrimSqueaker wrote:Does anyone here do any sort of occult stuff? I have been doing Tarot ammoungst other things for years-ive never gotten a reading wrong.


My wife does Tarot, I'm a bit too pragmatic for all that. She does get some stuff spot on though, that's pretty impressive.

- Don't go looking for ghosts, go looking for a way to disprove ghost sightings.(TAPS may be fake, but they have a solid way to ghost hunt, it makes any unexplainable evidence that much more rewarding)

- Don't go ghost hunting with people who claim to be psychics, people who use dowsing rods to find ghosts, or with people who cast spells. They are all idiots.

- Orbs do not equal ghosts. Orbs are a natural phenomenon, they are just balls of energy.

- If there is paranormal activity, feel free to taunt it. Piss it off to get a reaction. It may try to harm you depending on the type of haunting, but no worries.


TAPS fake? Take it back! Just kidding. I love Ghost Hunters simply for the campiness of it all. And the envy, I would love to go to some of the places that they go to.

I don't believe in psychics. While I do believe that some people have an incredible ability to pick up subtle details and come to some pretty impressive conclusions. Also, everyone has a built in "sixth sense" (for lack of a better term) warning device which tends to scream at you when you know something it wrong. Some people are just better at picking it up better than others. Dowing rods are just crap, and hate it when they use them on Ghost Hunters. It ruins the illusion.

I hate orb photos. They show nothing. It's dust, light reflecting off the lenses of the camera, etc.
Show me a real ball of energy without the use of mechanical equipment and I'm all about that

What do you all think about EVP? I know a lot of it is what you hear in your head, but still, I've heard some pretty impressively clear ones.


As for TAPS, there is a lot of controversy, in the first and second season, they seemed legit. Now it seems that Sci-fi is stepping in and making them find more "ghosts." Some of the editing was very bad, and you could tell where they have done different takes during a investigation.

For instance, one of the newer episode, where the woman claims her kids toys come to life by themselves, the electronics activate. During the investigation when they were talking to the toys asking if they could make the noise 3 times in a row and all that. What they said changed from what was shown in the investigation, to what was shown in the evidence.

As for psychics, I believe that there are a few out there who are legit. However, I seriously doubt, very seriously doubt that they would charge someone. They were given the gift for a reason, and it wasn't to make money, they know this. 90% of the people shown as psychics are total frauds. And yeah, we all get that feeling when something is wrong or is going to go wrong. The gut feeling when you know something bad is going to happen that day. That feeling you get when you know something is near you, or when you're being watched.

As for EVP, some of the things can be faked easily when audio editing technology we have now. But there are a few out there that are pretty damned convincing.
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Postby GrimSqueaker » Fri Aug 03, 2007 4:43 am

Moonbase2 wrote:I enjoy some good ghost stories and stuff, but I don't believe in any real paranormal anything. It's just for entertainment, folks. Those tarot card readers that you pay for base their readings off of how you look and act.


I have never ever ever accepted money for doing readings or similar-I remember hearing (although i cant remember where) that the price for being good at something is that u gotta be good at it, so if u can do something u should just go for it and do it-not whore it out.

The philosophy has worked for me so far, i have gotten loads of valuable experience, which in turn has made me better at it.

Oh and why is there so much rod hating going on-they can be a useful tool, i use pieces of florist wire as rods (one in each hand and the move to provide answers) hell i reckon i can even prove it!

If u lot wanna post questions, and if i can get my youtube account to work right i can film my results and post em so that u can see if i got it right or not-its just an idea




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Postby Senor Hugo » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:00 pm

Dowsing rods are easy as hell to fake. A little twist of the hand here. "ZOMG there is teh presence here the rods show it!"

I've been on a "ghost hunt" where the people leading the hunt did this.

Here in Fort Wayne, we have a Shriner group, they got their own big-ass building and everything. Well they rent out their building for events, twice a year there is a thing known as a "Spirit Fair," you can buy books, swords, get tarot readings, all that stuff.

So at this Spirit Fair, there was a seminar on ghosts being hosted by a group called "Fair Lady Fayre" or something equally retarded. They talked about how they have a lot of evidence, and proceeded to show pictures and a slide show.

They never went into anything scientific just "oh, I feel this place is haunted, and here are the orb photos to prove it." All the photos were either dust, bugs, or hair in front of the friggin' lens.

I tried my best not to laugh in their faces, since I was represented a group I go to. So after the presentation I talked to them, asked them about the hunts, where they decided to talk about the Shriner building and how it was also haunted.

After all was said and done, I went back to mind the booth, when a buddy of mine Steve comes up and says "the Fair Lady people wanted me to let you guys known that they want to do a ghost hunt here, and told me to invite a couple people." The "ghost hunt" started at 6pm, ended at 6:30pm.

So me, my roommate Scott, friends Adam and Chris went on this thing, they took us to a part of the building which was basically the attic, and talked about the building, they started taking photos, and where talking about how "yeah there are a lot of orbs here."

Then they started using some new tools, dowsing rods, and a poopy EMF, the kind that has the light blink if theres an high EMF, or if you move the thing relatively fast.
So I started asking them questions like "what about pissing ghosts off to try and get them to react?" to which they replied "we believe in a balance, and making a ghost angry upsets that balance that was there."
If only I could have leaped over the rows of chairs where we were and given a giant bitch-slap to the women.

So we went on our way to the basement, I ended up watching the person who was using the rods. You could see her move her hands to make the rods cross.

I wanted to murder them.

Granted, it was cool to see the shriner building in it's entirety, but god damn were these ladies idiots.

After everything was done, and nothing was seen, at all.

I know that every person has their own way to ghost hunt. But there really is only a certain right way to do it. If you go looking for ghosts, you're gonna find em. If you don't rely on science or common sense to find ghosts. Yeah..... I'd need Spoon here with the Bright Slap image to illustrate what would happen.

Yeah, being 'spiritual' in a ghost hunt is a good thing. You feel something, you start taking photos, if theres something other than dust that you can't explain, awesome job. But you can't use feelings as proof.

You say a prayer or spell or whatever for protection for yourself. You don't seriously use them in an investigation. Unless you know there is a demon, and you need to get rid of that bastich, but thats after said investigation.


Sorry, I rant a bit too much when it comes to the paranormal.
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Postby Barricade » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:55 pm

Motto: ""to punish and enslave...""
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http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1111421064
at 1:42.... it looks crappy but on the tv it freaked the hell out of me.....
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Postby Senor Hugo » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:07 pm

Barricade wrote:http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1111421064
at 1:42.... it looks crappy but on the tv it freaked the hell out of me.....


The footage was pretty interesting. Well, mostly just one part where it showed a shadowed figure moving across the screen. Hell, I'd give it a shot.
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Postby Loki120 » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:12 pm

Barricade wrote:http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1111421064
at 1:42.... it looks crappy but on the tv it freaked the hell out of me.....


I just seen that on Sci-Fi last week. They're not as interesting as TAPS and I can't stand that guys voice over narration. But they did have some pretty cool footage. One of the last things they caught was a brick flying across the room, which scared them so bad they jumped out a second story window that night (they were locked in).
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Postby Barricade » Fri Aug 03, 2007 7:49 pm

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Loki120 wrote:
Barricade wrote:http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=1111421064
at 1:42.... it looks crappy but on the tv it freaked the hell out of me.....


I just seen that on Sci-Fi last week. They're not as interesting as TAPS and I can't stand that guys voice over narration. But they did have some pretty cool footage. One of the last things they caught was a brick flying across the room, which scared them so bad they jumped out a second story window that night (they were locked in).
yeah the brick part is what freaked me out........
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Postby Senor Hugo » Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:09 pm

Bringing the thread back.

A damned nice bit of evidence from TAPS. I gotta say Lisheen Ruins is one place I'd love to check out.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=1ytGMDKeK1w
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Postby GrimSqueaker » Sun Aug 26, 2007 9:57 am

Shot it in the head!!!! The only way to kill the thread is to shot it in the head!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Postby Senor Hugo » Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:44 pm

GrimSqueaker wrote:Shot it in the head!!!! The only way to kill the thread is to shot it in the head!!!!!!!!!!!!


lol


Pfff, everyone knows that, but you forgot to burn it afterwards.

Anyway, I looked back through the thread and found I never posted the site I meant to. http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

It's awesome, some photos are fake, some are real, most are bizarre. Also, if you're lucky enough to get his radio show in your area, listen to it. It rocks.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:17 pm

since Halloween is around the corner I figured I'd zombify this thread

So anyone got any stories to tell?
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Postby Uncrazzimatic » Sat Oct 20, 2007 7:21 pm

I'll share a few pics for the zombie thread:

Possibly fake but meh, it's here now.
http://www.mysteriouspeople.com/Text.htm/images/pic8.jpg
EDIT: had to just put a link to that one as it was huge and stretched the page far too much.

Supposedly this... thing is real. It was found on the shores of Japan 1400 years ago, and scientists have proven that the top half is human. o.0
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And last, just for the lulz.
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Postby OptimusN1701 » Sun Oct 21, 2007 12:03 am

Uncrazzimatic wrote:
Supposedly this... thing is real. It was found on the shores of Japan 1400 years ago, and scientists have proven that the top half is human. o.0
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real or not, that just creepy
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