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Could Unicron Eat Earth?

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Postby Leonardo » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:16 am

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or its just 80s animation.
So Unicron is the same size as Cybertron right?
damn uncron is small.
No.... Unicron is larger, I think.....


I think he varies depending on the sequence!
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Postby Saber Prime » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:30 am

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This made me laugh. I still wanna see a battle between Galactus and Unicron over a planet they both want to eat.

Galactus: You're a Transformer, made of metal, you can eat all the metal planets, I'll take the organic ones.

Unicron: But there are more organic planets than metal ones?

Galactus: OK to make it fair I'll start eating first and by the time you start there will be an equill amount of organic and metal planets.

Unicron: ... How stupid do you think I am?

Galactus: You really want me to answer that?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:34 am

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This made me laugh. I still wanna see a battle between Galactus and Unicron over a planet they both want to eat.

Galactus: You're a Transformer, made of metal, you can eat all the metal planets, I'll take the organic ones.

Unicron: But there are more organic planets than metal ones?

Galactus: OK to make it fair I'll start eating first and by the time you start there will be an equill amount of organic and metal planets.

Unicron: ... How stupid do you think I am?

Galactus: You really want me to answer that?



Very funny :grin: But I always wondered what would happen if these tow guys ever met. :-?
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Re: Could Unicron Eat Earth?

Postby An_de » Fri Nov 02, 2007 11:25 am

Cyclonus_3009 wrote:I know he's called the Planet Eater, But from what I've seen he only eaten mechanical planets. Does he really have a tatse for organic planets though?

I think that he eats planets with energon.
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Re: Could Unicron Eat Earth?

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Cyclonus_3009 wrote:I know he's called the Planet Eater, But from what I've seen he only eaten mechanical planets. Does he really have a tatse for organic planets though?

I think that he eats planets with energon.


This is the answer I was waiting for someone to pipe up with.

Earth is desirable to the 'cons because of its rich sources of energon, or energon convertable resources.
Same reason that Unicron would be attracted to earth.

The dreamwave comics went one further, in the energon series, the earth is teeming with energon reserves that can be tapped directly, no conversion from one element to energon needed.
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Re: Could Unicron Eat Earth?

Postby Saber Prime » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:10 am

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Cyclonus_3009 wrote:I know he's called the Planet Eater, But from what I've seen he only eaten mechanical planets. Does he really have a tatse for organic planets though?

I think that he eats planets with energon.


This is the answer I was waiting for someone to pipe up with.

Earth is desirable to the 'cons because of its rich sources of energon, or energon convertable resources.
Same reason that Unicron would be attracted to earth.

The dreamwave comics went one further, in the energon series, the earth is teeming with energon reserves that can be tapped directly, no conversion from one element to energon needed.


I never really liked that "no conversion" stuff except in Beast Wars because they didn't leave any Energon when they left.

What is Energon exactly anyway? I mean can you really compair anything that actully exsists on Earth with the mysterious every changeing energy called Energon?
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Postby Damolisher » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:29 am

OK, no offense, but what is it with people trying to find deeper meaning to something that clearly HAS NO DEEPER MEANING? Unicron eats planets. THE END. Not "CERTAIN planets, ALL planets. If it were only mechanical planets, Furman or whoever the hell else would say "Only mechanical planets." If it were only planets with energon, whoever would say "ONLY ENERGON." But they don't. PLANET EATER. That's it. He eats planets. Regardless.
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Postby Fortress_Maximus » Sat Nov 03, 2007 12:33 pm

Don't see any reasons why the TFTM Unicron version could not devour the Earth and all of our neighboring planets too boot. Out nukes wouldn't even cause him a tummy ache. :???:
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Postby Autovolt127 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:05 am

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Postby Damolisher » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:01 pm

Pretty much, if Unicron ever existed.
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Postby City Commander » Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:17 pm

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He would, of course, eat all planets.

But I think he'd have a hard time with gas giants, considering they are mostly swirling gas of one kind or another surrounding a much smaller core.



Don't forget the Earth's core is iron. Just think of the Earth as a balance meal.
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Postby i_amtrunks » Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:39 pm

The Master Blaster wrote:But I think he'd have a hard time with gas giants, considering they are mostly swirling gas of one kind or another surrounding a much smaller core.


I guess they'd be like a milkshake to him then! :P
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Postby Saber Prime » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:30 pm

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He would, of course, eat all planets.

But I think he'd have a hard time with gas giants, considering they are mostly swirling gas of one kind or another surrounding a much smaller core.



Don't forget the Earth's core is iron. Just think of the Earth as a balance meal.


Um... the Earth's core is a big ball of multan lava. I'm sure there's iron in one of the layers from here to the center but unless iron and lava are the same thing than it's not the center.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:43 pm

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The Master Blaster wrote::DEVIL:














He would, of course, eat all planets.

But I think he'd have a hard time with gas giants, considering they are mostly swirling gas of one kind or another surrounding a much smaller core.



Don't forget the Earth's core is iron. Just think of the Earth as a balance meal.


Um... the Earth's core is a big ball of multan lava. I'm sure there's iron in one of the layers from here to the center but unless iron and lava are the same thing than it's not the center.


You know since your younger then me I would have thought you would know your earth science better then I do but.......this is from my daughters earth science school books

The average density of Earth is 5515 kg/m3, making it the densest planet in the Solar system. Since the average density of surface material is only around 3000 kg/m3, we must conclude that denser materials exist within Earth's core. Further evidence for the high density core comes from the study of seismology.

Seismic measurements show that the core is divided into two parts, a solid inner core with a radius of ~1220 km and a liquid outer core extending beyond it to a radius of ~3400 km. The solid inner core was discovered in 1936 by Inge Lehmann and is generally believed to be composed primarily of iron and some nickel.

In early stages of the Earth's formation about 4.5 billion years ago, melting would have caused denser substances to sink toward the center in a process called planetary differentiation , while less-dense materials would have migrated to the crust. The core is thus believed to largely be composed of iron (80%), along with nickel and one or more light elements, whereas other dense elements, such as lead and uranium, either are too rare to be significant or tend to bind to lighter elements and thus remain in the crust. Some have argued that the inner core may be in the form of a single iron crystal.

The liquid outer core surrounds the inner core and is believed to be composed of iron mixed with nickel and trace amounts of lighter elements.

Recent speculation suggests that the innermost part of the core is enriched in gold, platinum and other iron-loving elements.

In other words Earths in core is solid its outer core is multan lava.
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Postby Saber Prime » Sun Nov 04, 2007 10:54 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:
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He would, of course, eat all planets.

But I think he'd have a hard time with gas giants, considering they are mostly swirling gas of one kind or another surrounding a much smaller core.



Don't forget the Earth's core is iron. Just think of the Earth as a balance meal.


Um... the Earth's core is a big ball of multan lava. I'm sure there's iron in one of the layers from here to the center but unless iron and lava are the same thing than it's not the center.


You know since your younger then me I would have thought you would know your earth science better then I do but.......this is from my daughters earth science school books

The average density of Earth is 5515 kg/m3, making it the densest planet in the Solar system. Since the average density of surface material is only around 3000 kg/m3, we must conclude that denser materials exist within Earth's core. Further evidence for the high density core comes from the study of seismology.

Seismic measurements show that the core is divided into two parts, a solid inner core with a radius of ~1220 km and a liquid outer core extending beyond it to a radius of ~3400 km. The solid inner core was discovered in 1936 by Inge Lehmann and is generally believed to be composed primarily of iron and some nickel.

In early stages of the Earth's formation about 4.5 billion years ago, melting would have caused denser substances to sink toward the center in a process called planetary differentiation , while less-dense materials would have migrated to the crust. The core is thus believed to largely be composed of iron (80%), along with nickel and one or more light elements, whereas other dense elements, such as lead and uranium, either are too rare to be significant or tend to bind to lighter elements and thus remain in the crust. Some have argued that the inner core may be in the form of a single iron crystal.

The liquid outer core surrounds the inner core and is believed to be composed of iron mixed with nickel and trace amounts of lighter elements.

Recent speculation suggests that the innermost part of the core is enriched in gold, platinum and other iron-loving elements.


This was discovered in 1936? Was the book allso dated for that same year or did you check?

All I remember from science was the Earth's core was lava. Of course my elementry school really sucked too so for all I know the science books I was useing was probly horribly outdated. :lol:
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:00 pm

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:
The Master Blaster wrote::DEVIL:














He would, of course, eat all planets.

But I think he'd have a hard time with gas giants, considering they are mostly swirling gas of one kind or another surrounding a much smaller core.



Don't forget the Earth's core is iron. Just think of the Earth as a balance meal.


Um... the Earth's core is a big ball of multan lava. I'm sure there's iron in one of the layers from here to the center but unless iron and lava are the same thing than it's not the center.


You know since your younger then me I would have thought you would know your earth science better then I do but.......this is from my daughters earth science school books

The average density of Earth is 5515 kg/m3, making it the densest planet in the Solar system. Since the average density of surface material is only around 3000 kg/m3, we must conclude that denser materials exist within Earth's core. Further evidence for the high density core comes from the study of seismology.

Seismic measurements show that the core is divided into two parts, a solid inner core with a radius of ~1220 km and a liquid outer core extending beyond it to a radius of ~3400 km. The solid inner core was discovered in 1936 by Inge Lehmann and is generally believed to be composed primarily of iron and some nickel.

In early stages of the Earth's formation about 4.5 billion years ago, melting would have caused denser substances to sink toward the center in a process called planetary differentiation , while less-dense materials would have migrated to the crust. The core is thus believed to largely be composed of iron (80%), along with nickel and one or more light elements, whereas other dense elements, such as lead and uranium, either are too rare to be significant or tend to bind to lighter elements and thus remain in the crust. Some have argued that the inner core may be in the form of a single iron crystal.

The liquid outer core surrounds the inner core and is believed to be composed of iron mixed with nickel and trace amounts of lighter elements.

Recent speculation suggests that the innermost part of the core is enriched in gold, platinum and other iron-loving elements.


This was discovered in 1936? Was the book allso dated for that same year or did you check?

All I remember from science was the Earth's core was lava. Of course my elementry school really sucked too so for all I know the science books I was useing was probly horribly outdated. :lol:


No the books not dated.....I live in a rich part of town and all the tex book are the 2007/2008 eddisions.Thats why I moved up here in the first place....to make sure my daughter had a better school then she had back in Brooklyn.And I only quoye that book cause I didnt remember all the facts my self....even I remembersd fron school that the inner core was solid...just didnt remember solid what.
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Postby Saber Prime » Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:40 pm

Yup I knew it, my school sucks. This town is small, cheap, and crappy. Hell I should of realized that book was outdated. What kind of science book has all the Roman Gods listed in it. :lol: I mean that is where the planets got their names from but did they really need to have pictures of the Gods and their symbols?
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:03 am

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I didnt think there would have been that much of a difference between the books you read in the late 90's and the one's I read in the late 70's and early 80's.It looks like your books were older then mine.My school tex books were mostly dated between the late 50's and 60's and even they had the correct info on the earths inner core.
Maybe you just didnt like the topic and you dont remember what you were tought :-P
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Postby Damolisher » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:12 am

i_amtrunks wrote:
The Master Blaster wrote:But I think he'd have a hard time with gas giants, considering they are mostly swirling gas of one kind or another surrounding a much smaller core.


I guess they'd be like a milkshake to him then! :P


Well you know what they say: Our milshake brings the demonic planet eating transformers to our yard, and they're like 'it's better than yours.'
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Postby i_amtrunks » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:14 am

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The Master Blaster wrote:But I think he'd have a hard time with gas giants, considering they are mostly swirling gas of one kind or another surrounding a much smaller core.


I guess they'd be like a milkshake to him then! :P


Well you know what they say: Our milshake brings the demonic planet eating transformers to our yard, and they're like 'it's better than yours.'


I knew it was too good to be true that that song seemed to have disappeared... :P
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Postby Saber Prime » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:45 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:I didnt think there would have been that much of a difference between the books you read in the late 90's and the one's I read in the late 70's and early 80's.It looks like your books were older then mine.My school tex books were mostly dated between the late 50's and 60's and even they had the correct info on the earths inner core.
Maybe you just didnt like the topic and you dont remember what you were tought :-P
There is stuff I don't remember but nothing I remember differently from what accully occured.

I did learn about each layer of the planet's crust but without remembering the proper order/names we have dirt and rock all the way down. Not verry interesting to an 11 year old. Get down to the creamy center and we have lava, now that's interesting and actully sticks to mind. I allso had an intrest in Mytholigy at the time and that's when I first created Neptune naming him after the Roman God of Water as affiliated with his powers and myself. (and because learning about the Planets Roman names were just easier to spell than the Greek names.)

I'm not sure I can spell Posiedan right even today. I just guessed there so you tell me.

I allso remember the names of all the Planets in order.

Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto (sometimes Pluto then Neptune.)

Haveing more of an intrest in mytholigy than the planets themselfs it helped to remember the order of Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus.

Thoughs four as Planets were hard to remember but as Gods. Mars (Aries) is the son of Jupiter (Zeus) who it the son of Saturn (Kronos) who is the son of Uranus (Unknown Greek Name).

You should be familar with Saturn sence the Greek name of that God is allso the name of the Klingon home world.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:00 am

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You should be familar with Saturn sence the Greek name of that God is allso the name of the Klingon home world.


I'm very familar with Greek Mytholigy [as well as others] but your facts on the Klingons home world are in question.The names sound simular but are spelled very differend.The Greek God was named Chronos and the Klingon home world is called Qo'noS.
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Postby Saber Prime » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:16 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
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You should be familar with Saturn sence the Greek name of that God is allso the name of the Klingon home world.


I'm very familar with Greek Mytholigy [as well as others] but your facts on the Klingons home world are in question.The names sound simular but are spelled very differend.The Greek God was named Chronos and the Klingon home world is called Qo'noS.


I apperently spelled the name wrong in my post either way as I wrote Kronos. (Told ya I couldn't spell Greek Names)

Still they are both pronounced the same way and even though they're spelled different I wouldn't doubt it if that is where the name came from.

Romulas and Remas (again probly spelling wrong) are allso names of planets on Star Trek and are taken from the Bible.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Nov 05, 2007 1:38 am

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
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You should be familar with Saturn sence the Greek name of that God is allso the name of the Klingon home world.


I'm very familar with Greek Mytholigy [as well as others] but your facts on the Klingons home world are in question.The names sound simular but are spelled very differend.The Greek God was named Chronos and the Klingon home world is called Qo'noS.


I apperently spelled the name wrong in my post either way as I wrote Kronos. (Told ya I couldn't spell Greek Names)

Still they are both pronounced the same way and even though they're spelled different I wouldn't doubt it if that is where the name came from.

Romulas and Remas (again probly spelling wrong) are allso names of planets on Star Trek and are taken from the Bible.


I really cant tell you wether or not they took the name from there.....there Home world had been givven 3 different names over the years and 2 of those came from offical live action serries.If it had been Rodenberry that named the home world I would have said you were wrong because he had a different method of naming people places and things on Star trek.

I didnt know that Romulos and Remus were names taken from the bible....Ib thought they were from Roman mythology.Witch I thing pre-dates the bible.
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Postby Saber Prime » Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:15 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
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You should be familar with Saturn sence the Greek name of that God is allso the name of the Klingon home world.


I'm very familar with Greek Mytholigy [as well as others] but your facts on the Klingons home world are in question.The names sound simular but are spelled very differend.The Greek God was named Chronos and the Klingon home world is called Qo'noS.


I apperently spelled the name wrong in my post either way as I wrote Kronos. (Told ya I couldn't spell Greek Names)

Still they are both pronounced the same way and even though they're spelled different I wouldn't doubt it if that is where the name came from.

Romulas and Remas (again probly spelling wrong) are allso names of planets on Star Trek and are taken from the Bible.


I really cant tell you wether or not they took the name from there.....there Home world had been givven 3 different names over the years and 2 of those came from offical live action serries.If it had been Rodenberry that named the home world I would have said you were wrong because he had a different method of naming people places and things on Star trek.

I didnt know that Romulos and Remus were names taken from the bible....Ib thought they were from Roman mythology.Witch I thing pre-dates the bible.


Wait a min... I think I may be mixing religous storys, I just realized I was actully thinking of Kane and Able. :oops:
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