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Death of Investigative Journalism

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Death of Investigative Journalism

Postby Retardicon » Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:23 pm

I remember a day when you would watch the news and they would give you the official story and then their take based on their own investigation. This often broke potential scandals before they could flourish. Other times it has forced people of power to answer for their actions.

Not Anymore.

All we get nowadays is the official story. If you question the official story you get categorized as a trouble maker or crackpot.

Since when has asking the question 'Why' made you a trouble maker? When the answer to the question causes trouble for interviewee. Get it? "You're making trouble - for me!"

Our British friends have probably heard of Conrad Black and how he own 90% of the UK's media outlets. In the States, we've got Ted Turner, Rupert Murdoch and Micheal Eisner running things.

Wow, so 4 People own nearly all the media outlets for the UK and US. Hope their employees understand their responsibility for reporting all the facts.

Oh, wait, my boss said to play this angle of the story (spin) because... I don't know, I'm not allowed to ask why without putting my career, credibility and home on the line.

Is this fair to the people who trust the news to be 'Fair and Balanced' when they only get one side of a story?
Could this lack of details be used to move the masses in the wrong direction with inaccurate reporting?
Is there such a thing as a Media Monopoly where you only know what they want/need you to know?
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Re: Death of Investigative Journalism

Postby Nightracer GT » Sun Apr 15, 2007 4:33 am

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Handbanana wrote:Is this fair to the people who trust the news to be 'Fair and Balanced' when they only get one side of a story?
Could this lack of details be used to move the masses in the wrong direction with inaccurate reporting?
Is there such a thing as a Media Monopoly where you only know what they want/need you to know?


No, yes, and yes.

It's the reason we don't need a draft to go to Iraq. It's the reason people actually like Ann Coulter.


I'm really wondering how long ago they actually did do the kind of fair reporting you're talking about. Hell, it could have been even worse in earlier times.
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Postby Blackstreak » Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:51 pm

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I thought they did this all along telling you what they want you to know, feel what they want you to feel, etc, etc, etc.
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Postby Kranix-76 » Wed Jun 13, 2007 7:31 pm

In the United States, it's the legacy of Hearst and Pulitzer, in a sense: the creation of news media as part of an industry, whose purpose is not to inform but to compete with other news media "outlets" for readership (and, now, viewership). The birth of sensationalism didn't happen within our lifetimes, either; it came at the outbreak of the Spanish-American War, to which historians still cast a raised eyebrow as to whether the Hearst papers had a hand in creating "the first shot." Even with the urban muckraking of the early twentieth century (such as what would go on to produce The Jungle, among other things), sensation was the big draw for most newspaper readers.

Granted, it was never so widespread in ages past, in part because of the expansion beyond print. Television and, most recently, the advent of the Internet have allowed for a more rapid exchange of information...at the expense of depth and breadth of coverage. Suddenly, it isn't news but newsbytes, and instead of being the only program on at 6:00 pm, the Evening News has to compete with reruns of Everybody Is Fairly Indifferent Towards Raymond. So, enter the old competition models provided by Hearst and Pulitzer.

Yet, up to the Vietnam era, journalism was slowly increasing in its civic commitment (y'know, whenever it wasn't busy preseving Cold War ideology and bashing hippie culture). Walter Chronkite still is recognized as one of the few journalists whose name is synonymous with "integrity," and news media reached an unprecedented point of "checks-and-balances" with the break of the Watergate scandal...isn't it funny how an unsuccessful war and the Yuppie Era (our beloved 1980s) seem to turn things right around?

Of course, most news media today still bash hippies and speak highly of the (Cold) War on Terror. Some things never change, I suppose...
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Postby Lord Starscream20 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:39 pm

You're making good points. The media does have an obvious bias. (Having sampled all of the major TV networks, I believe that NBC is the worst offender in this realm).

It's actually gotten to the point where I don't even trust a story unless I can cross-check it between ABC News and FOX News (one tilts slightly left, one tilts very slightly right). Thank God for people like Shepard Smith (host of the FOX Report), who just runs through the stories plainly and fairly. No analysis. Just news. I don't mind commentators or analysts giving opinions, but we don't need it in our news reporting.
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Re: Death of Investigative Journalism

Postby mtlove » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:33 pm

Retardicon wrote:Wow, so 4 People own nearly all the media outlets for the UK and US. Hope their employees understand their responsibility for reporting all the facts.


Not really, 4 people own the major media. Most local TV stations in Mid-Small TV markets are owned by 'smaller' companies.

I think the real problem is that publicly owned TV stations are wanting more & more of a profit. Part of that comes from hiring young people that don't cost as much, firing the people w/ experience & integrity, and not reporting on stories that might get the station sued / lose advertisers.

Though the trouble I see is that as owners try to make more profit, their stations lose quality. As the local news looses quality people loose faith in the local news & look for another source & then start to look for news the way they want it to hear it. When they find something that is "reporting" the news the way they believe the world is, they stick to it. Although this means that people are now believing baised news as real news, and real news as baised.

Just remember this. All news is completely true except for the rare time when you have first hand knowledge.
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Re: Death of Investigative Journalism

Postby Lord Starscream20 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:56 pm

mtlove wrote:Just remember this. All news is completely true except for the rare time when you have first hand knowledge.


Woah...Deep, man! :PEACE:
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Re: Death of Investigative Journalism

Postby mtlove » Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:17 am

Lord Starscream20 wrote:
mtlove wrote:Just remember this. All news is completely true except for the rare time when you have first hand knowledge.


Woah...Deep, man! :PEACE:


kinda deep, kinda true & kinda means that most people are very subjective in how they see the world.

I'm sure that even the fairest report on Paris Hilton going to jail would seem biased to the Hilton family unless it talks about how unfair the judge has been to Paris.

the reality is that TV news has to condense their reports to a small # of seconds & newspapers have to condense their reports to a small # of words. Objectively editing out the less important details is very subjective to the people who's views got cut.

& since that last paragraph can't fit in a fortune cookie it isn't as deep
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Postby Spark Light » Fri Jul 13, 2007 1:51 pm

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