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Postby DesalationReborn » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:01 pm

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All living things have some concept of pain, so I don't like to pick and choose based on arbitrary things like eyes or feet or leaves-- it'll eat what I want, when I want.
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Postby Heavy B » Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:44 pm

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i eat meat and im not going to be ashamed of it. no matter what that bone head neighbor of mine says.

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Postby Just Negare » Wed Apr 25, 2007 5:55 pm

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That's one of the reasons I don't follow the bible literally, because I wouldn't be able to eat pork, or mix dairy and beef, so no lasanga. Screw that!!

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Postby YouFearGalvatron » Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:30 am

No, it is not cruel.

So long as you show mercy and make the death as fast as possible: ex: beheading, neck snap, etc.

Burning alive, drowning, skinning alive, all very cruel and unnecessary.
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Postby Grendel » Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:28 pm

pretty much, no reason to torture your food
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Postby wavelength » Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:46 pm

all things must do as theyare told to by nature, as all things move on to let new things arise.

if we are omnivores dammit, we should act like the label commands us so
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Postby Tammuz » Thu Jul 26, 2007 3:18 am

wavelength wrote:all things must do as theyare told to by nature


nah, i'd rather cook my meat than eat it raw, and i quite like toilet paper too. and not dying before i'm 30.
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Postby wavelength » Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:14 pm

we bend what nature want us to do by throwing a hissy fit in the supermarket :lol:
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Postby tequila stu » Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:21 pm

i have no problem whatsoever, if anyone else does then they can
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Postby Grendel » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:07 pm

personally, I like raw meat, tastes pretty damn spiffy.

just wouldn't want to try pork raw, or poultry
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Postby Dr Buffalo » Fri Aug 10, 2007 1:27 am

Poohy Ol' Negare wrote:That's one of the reasons I don't follow the bible literally, because I wouldn't be able to eat pork, or mix dairy and beef, so no lasanga. Screw that!!

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God says we can eat beef, just not worship it.

And like I said before, if God doesn't want us to eat meat, why is panda so delicious?
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Postby Emperor Galvatron » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:59 pm

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Eating meat is good and good for you. Animals are cruel to each other and eat each other. We're less cruel. Is cutting a cow's neck with an extremely sharp knife more or less humane than tearing it's throat out with our bare teeth?
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Postby Sonic Wing » Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:06 pm

this may be annoyin or some unreligius but here it is:

"if god wouldnt want us to eat animals he wouldnt had made them so delicious"
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Postby DesalationReborn » Thu Aug 16, 2007 11:08 pm

Sonic Wing wrote:this may be annoyin or some unreligius but here it is:

"if god wouldnt want us to eat animals he wouldnt had made them so delicious"


Then I wonder what his plans were with fugu... :-?
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Postby The Time Traveller » Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:29 pm

Vegans and Vegetarians are evil.

But those "I don't eat meat except for Fish and Chicken" are more stupid than evil, just like the good man Jack Dee said "I'm a non-smoker, except for cigarettes."
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Postby Cyber Bishop » Fri Aug 17, 2007 5:36 pm

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I eat meat.
I have killed deer and used the meat for food.
I have killed chickens and used the meat for food.

Gimme a big ol' steak.. Medium well.
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Postby DesalationReborn » Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:03 pm

Cyber Bishop wrote:I eat meat.
I have killed deer and used the meat for food.
I have killed chickens and used the meat for food.

Gimme a big ol' steak.. Medium well.


Meh. Still raw in the middle suits me! :twisted:

Seriously though, if you don't like that, try the same with a tuna fillet.
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Postby City Commander » Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:06 am

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Not to me it isn't.


Animals eat each other. We're animals. So we help each other to feed on smaller animals. That just means we got manners.



Steak >>>>>>>>>>>>> Vegetables
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Postby GetterDragun » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:56 am

The Time Traveller wrote:Vegans and Vegetarians are evil.

But those "I don't eat meat except for Fish and Chicken" are more stupid than evil, just like the good man Jack Dee said "I'm a non-smoker, except for cigarettes."


Calling Vegans evil is an insult, if you can't post without insulting then stay out of this fourm.
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Postby tequila stu » Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:39 am

1 cow feeds a family for months.

Take the equivalent amount of food required in crop form, take that whole area and count up the amount of vermin and insects killed to prevent crop destruction. Lesser of 2 evils = the cow.
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Postby DesalationReborn » Sat Aug 18, 2007 1:16 pm

tequila stu wrote:1 cow feeds a family for months.

Take the equivalent amount of food required in crop form, take that whole area and count up the amount of vermin and insects killed to prevent crop destruction. Lesser of 2 evils = the cow.


At least in rocky areas. Sure, corn provides direct energy conversion and is great on the Plains, but just try and grow it around a place like the Canadian Shield.
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Re: Is it cruel to slaughter animals for food?

Postby captain craig » Thu Sep 06, 2007 2:35 pm

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No, they would be slaughtered one way or another. Either by having the "commercial farming and slaughtering" or by having everyone who wants meat outside with a gun.

I prefer to not have to worry about driving into the woods, applying bug repellant, climbing a stand at 3am to hunt for a few weeks worth of meat.

I think it a shame when I hear of how some of the farming is done and how chickens are kept in an area they can't move in but we are top of the food chain. As long as we don't make a species extinct I think we are alright. We probably have done that over the last hundred years but the last few decades have seen drastic improvement in the protection of animals.

I think animal testing for cosmetics and detergents is dispicible and should end.
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Postby relictor » Sun Sep 09, 2007 10:24 pm

When i am sitting down to a meal the last thing i am concerned about is how the thing died, or wither it knew it was gonna die. wither God wanted us to eat meat or not is also a point of no intrest. but i do thank him at meal times for providing such tasty meals as Cow, pig and lamb, not to forget that tasty meal of chicken.
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Postby Devastator » Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:22 am

My grandfather used to raise pigs when he lived with us. He built a pig pen in our back yard. Our neighbor used to come over and talk to the pig when no one was around. When the pig was finally slaughtered, he felt really sad and upset. If we had known about it, we probably would have offered him some of the feast. I'm sure the delicious pork roast would have helped to dry his tears.
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