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News Credits: 295 · by **WreckerJack** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:44 pm

It slipped by me too TBH. Got into TFs late, 2015 was my first purchase.

News Credits: 3 · by **Wireless_Phantom** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:46 pm

Could somebody recount the votes?

News Credits: 1 · by **Hotconvoy** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:53 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:@Flashwave&WreckerJack I wasn't collecting at that point so no wonder it had slipped me by but that toy...sheesh aside from the head how is it impactor?

Well. Um. He' orange

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 5:58 pm

Hotconvoy wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:@Flashwave&WreckerJack I wasn't collecting at that point so no wonder it had slipped me by but that toy...sheesh aside from the head how is it impactor?

Well. Um. He' orange

Impactor isn't really orange to begin with though ...

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:06 pm

That looks more like huffer then impactor, it's the head and weapon that are obviously supposed to be impactor but then they messed it up with the colours...

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:25 pm

The orange on Gen. Impactor was probably to unify the color scheme for Emirate Xaaron Ruination, as the rest of the WFC Wreckers had orange on them somewhere:

Transformers Generations Ruination Gallery

But yeah, Impactor has to be whatever purplish blue color he has in the comics.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:01 pm

FOC Impactor's deco was an inverse of Impactor's normal deco. Purple was made the secondary color instead of the primary, as Archer's team had a sort of aversion towards making predominately purple Autobots.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:12 pm

If they made the primary color of the team yellow instead of orange it would of not only been closer to Impactor's colors but it would of made the Emirate Xaaron homage a lot more apparent.

Not like it matters much since the FOC Combaticon toys were sadly pretty mediocre.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:20 pm

Deadput wrote:If they made the primary color of the team yellow instead of orange it would of not only been closer to Impactor's colors but it would of made the Emirate Xaaron homage a lot more apparent.

And would have been closer to the golden color scheme of the original Ruination, too.

Though, they probably picked orange as the unifying color of the team since orange was likewise found on each member of the original Ruination's components as well (Armorhide's visor was orange):

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:28 pm

Sabrblade wrote:And would have been closer to the golden color scheme of the original Ruination, too.

Though, they probably picked orange as the unifying color of the team since orange was likewise found on each member of the original Ruination's components as well (Armorhide's visor was orange):

That is true and although they probably had their reasons it was always weird to me that they chose Ruination to be the Wrecker combiner even though he was not made of the RID 2001 characters, in my opinion I feel they should of made up a new Wrecker combiner name or just had the members be the Rid guys as straight repaints instead of the Wreckers.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:31 pm

Deadput wrote:That is true and although they probably had their reasons it was always weird to me that they chose Ruination to be the Wrecker combiner even though he was not made of the RID 2001 characters, in my opinion I feel they should of made up a new Wrecker combiner name or just had the members be the Rid guys as straight repaints instead of the Wreckers.

Well, it was a Bruticus mold reuse and "new continuity" = "new rules apply".

News Credits: 1 · by **durroth** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:44 pm

... Wheeljack's cybertronian alt mode is *terrible* for the character though. It's something you'd expect more from Ironhide

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:46 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Well, it was a Bruticus mold reuse and "new continuity" = "new rules apply".

Again true and to be honest I sort of like that Wrecker combiner (not the molds of course but as a concept) it was a new thing and I like new things in this franchise.

But every combiner would pale in comparison to a Nitro Zeus combiner because that totally would be rad.

Speaking of such I hope this line has some actual new characters in the line or at the very least some obscure ones that either have not had a mainline toy before (Like Elita and the other fems from POTP) or haven't had anything since G1.

Honestly I sort of want something like that purposed "G3" idea that was purposed.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:36 am

Couldn’t the argument be made that beast wars was g3? Or does it have to contain new versions of the core cast?

News Credits: 4838 · by **william-james88** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:23 am

ZeroWolf wrote:Couldn’t the argument be made that beast wars was g3? Or does it have to contain new versions of the core cast?

I think continuity is what is used to determine the differences between the gens. And Beast Wars is part of G1, just at a later time.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 4:45 pm

william-james88 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Couldn’t the argument be made that beast wars was g3? Or does it have to contain new versions of the core cast?

I think continuity is what is used to determine the differences between the gens. And Beast Wars is part of G1, just at a later time.

This is true, in my mind I was thinking of a non Beast line though, like a series with characters turning into modern day vehicles which I guess is similar to the film series but I mean in a more standard style kinda like Alternators but with original characters.

This is more fleshed out in my mind then I can explain but hopefully you get the gist of it.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:45 pm

If it's continuity then wouldn't armada count? Or the first rid (not that it would ever matter to takara since they would still find a way to put it in the G1 timeline)

Also isn't G2 part of beast wars going by the Vok being the Swarm? Is just making things more complicated?

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 7:48 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:If it's continuity then wouldn't armada count? Or the first rid (not that it would ever matter to takara since they would still find a way to put it in the G1 timeline)

Also isn't G2 part of beast wars going by the Vok being the Swarm? Is just making things more complicated?

I mean it takes place in the same universe but again this is better thought out in my mind.

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:31 pm

Best to just think of Machine Wars as an unspoken "G3".

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:42 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Best to just think of Machine Wars as an unspoken "G3".

I always forget about Machine Wars (Wasn't my time but still) was that related to the G1 continuity at all besides some names?

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:46 pm

Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Best to just think of Machine Wars as an unspoken "G3".

I always forget about Machine Wars (Wasn't my time but still) was that related to the G1 continuity at all besides some names?

The toy bios described them all as their G1 selves in an implied post-G2 setting, with Megaplex and Hubcap being the sole exceptional new characters.

News Credits: 295 · by **WreckerJack** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:45 pm

So any word on when these votes are tallied?

News Credits: 42 · by **Autobot N** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:52 pm

WreckerJack wrote:So any word on when these votes are tallied?

I remember reading somewhere that the winner would be announced on the 27th. Can't remember where, though.

MyFigureCollection.net collection · by **Emerje** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:46 pm

Autobot N wrote:
WreckerJack wrote:So any word on when these votes are tallied?
I remember reading somewhere that the winner would be announced on the 27th. Can't remember where, though.

They posted that on Facebook.

Emerje

News Credits: 13 · by **mordhelm** » Mon Feb 26, 2018 2:37 pm

Well here are the numbers I found from the 3 Facebook posts and Instagram:

Impactor
Facebook: 545 + 49 + 9
Instagram: 227
Total: 830

Spinister
Facebook: 391 + 39 + 23
Instagram: 271
Total: 724

Needlenose
Facebook: 446 + 40 + 14
Instagram: 211
Total: 711

So it looks like a pretty landslide victory for the ol' Wrecker. Now, take this info with a grain of salt because I can't guarantee that comments don't get hidden, and Hasbro could adjust the count (for instance mine didn't account for 1 user voting multiple times, or some other issue). But, unless there are shenanigans, Impactor is your winner.