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Starscream not based off a Gorilla?

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Starscream not based off a Gorilla?

Postby Blitzwing the warrior » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:02 pm

Ive been studying Starscream's movie design, and ive noticed something. From what I see, Starscream isnt based off a simean, but a bird, bird of prey as a matter of fact. Monkeys arent the only animals that can walk upright on hind legs. Birds also have hind legs. Starscream is a Seeker and his alternate form is a next generation fighter plane. So is a form of a bird a homage to his characteristics? Look at his head, his mouth sort of looks like a beak, and his head is round like a bird's. His legs are about proportionate to his body as is a bird's, he even has talons.

So maybe we should start calling him Birdscream?
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Postby brbolin » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:13 pm

I have to agree with a post I read a looong while back...the name of the jet is "Raptor", and I think he was molded with a little bit of Velociraptor in mind. That's what I like to think, anyway. They're mean, too. Starscream just needs one, giant curved toenail sticking up.
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Postby Night Raid » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:17 pm

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'Raptor' is also a term for a bird of prey. And offhand, I'd have to say Starscream's more a falcon than an eagle. Eagles do strength. Falcons are more agile.
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Postby Briggs » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:44 pm

Sounds logical to me. THey could have made him tiny bit skinnier im sure, with not as *wide* bird legs.. but none the less, i dont care!

I am use to Beast War bot modes so modes like this don't bother me at all, even those weird hands on some of them.. (Thank BLack Arachnia and the like for getting me use to *silly* hands)
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Re: Starscream not based off a Gorilla?

Postby Godzilla » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:02 pm

Blitzwing the warrior wrote:Ive been studying Starscream's movie design, and ive noticed something. From what I see, Starscream isnt based off a simean, but a bird, bird of prey as a matter of fact. Monkeys arent the only animals that can walk upright on hind legs. Birds also have hind legs. Starscream is a Seeker and his alternate form is a next generation fighter plane. So is a form of a bird a homage to his characteristics? Look at his head, his mouth sort of looks like a beak, and his head is round like a bird's. His legs are about proportionate to his body as is a bird's, he even has talons.

So maybe we should start calling him Birdscream?





Starscream looks weird! Yet he looks so cool!



I have question though, will have the "Nullray" weapon to his disposal?
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Re: Starscream not based off a Gorilla?

Postby Burn » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:39 pm

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Godzilla wrote:I have question though, will have the "Nullray" weapon to his disposal?


Nope.
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Re: Starscream not based off a Gorilla?

Postby Godzilla » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:02 pm

Burn wrote:
Godzilla wrote:I have question though, will have the "Nullray" weapon to his disposal?


Nope.




Well then, what his special wepon?
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Re: Starscream not based off a Gorilla?

Postby Burn » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:26 pm

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Godzilla wrote:
Burn wrote:
Godzilla wrote:I have question though, will have the "Nullray" weapon to his disposal?


Nope.


Well then, what his special wepon?


There are no special weapons. They just have really really really big boom sticks.
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Postby Night Raid » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:54 pm

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Plus whatever weapons any normal fighter jet has.
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Postby Burn » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:05 pm

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Night Raid wrote:Plus whatever weapons any normal fighter jet has.


Not necessarily. Those weapons could simply disguise advanced Cybertronian weapons.
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Postby Night Raid » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:16 pm

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So... upgraded equivalents of whatever weapons any normal fighter jet has?
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Postby Godzilla » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:20 pm

I heard that Jazz has a Shield and a Sword! And Optimus has cannon on one arm and a blade on the other.
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Postby primalVICTORY » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:23 pm

starscream looks awesome, but kinda wierd. maybe that is just because he looks different than the rest of them. and we all know ironhide has the best weapons!
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Postby Sherade » Fri Jun 15, 2007 8:43 pm

Yeah, check the sig.
Anyway, Screamer never struck me as an animal based one, he just looked alien. But, I can see your point.
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Postby Screambug » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:16 pm

If Starscream doesn't look like a squashed gorilla, then he looks like a squashed waterbug. :SICK:
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Postby Night Raid » Fri Jun 15, 2007 10:12 pm

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Yeah, he looks like a squashed SOMETHING... Or maybe he just looks like a jet that was taken apart and rearranged.
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Starscream not based off a Gorilla?

Postby Repair Bay » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:04 am

yeah, i always figured he looked more like a bird. gorilla never even hit me XD
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Postby Riotflea » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:14 am

I saw it more as a gorilla with the head of a wasp.
I KINDA' see the bird junk you're saying though.

Oh, who cares? I still say he looks like ass.

If he doesn't try to backstab Megatron-thing at least ONCE in this movie, then someone better tell me why the wide, retarded thing is called Starscream.

I'm starting to think gorilla, so he can have the scene where he's swinging in the city (in order to cash in on Spiderman 3 web-slinging type effects while still fresh in the public's mind).
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Postby AbsumZer0 » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:56 am

All of the movie transformers have some animal characteristics and the Decepticons in particular seem to have a lot of avian bits. Bonecrusher's face, for example, looks a lot like a horned owl's and his feet closely resemble talons (though he also looks like a mashup of porcupine and sloth characteristics). The Wreckage toy package art, though he isn't in the film, has him sporting a very psittacine-like beak and his feet are definitely avian. It could be just me, but for reasons I haven't figured-out Brawl kind of reminds me of a duck.

That being said, I don't think Starscream's primary inspiration is a bird, least of all a bird of prey. His legs and feet are very avian, but they're also very much like an ornithschian dinosaur's; they look more suited to running than they do catching from above. If they were based on a bird's my guess would be an ostrich. Above the waist I don't see any avian characteristics at all. In fact, the bulk makes him look antithetical to all the sleek, graceful aspects pertaining to both birds of prey and his alt mode. He barely looks capable of supporting his upper-body weight.
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Postby Burn » Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:36 am

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Riotflea wrote:If he doesn't try to backstab Megatron-thing at least ONCE in this movie, then someone better tell me why the wide, retarded thing is called Starscream.


Because when he's not stabbing Megatron in the back he's screwing up Megatron's plans.

'nuff said.
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Postby Night Raid » Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:55 pm

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Sounds like Starscream, all right.
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Postby Zombie Starscream » Sat Jun 16, 2007 5:38 pm

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Screambug wrote:If Starscream doesn't look like a squashed gorilla, then he looks like a squashed waterbug. :SICK:
Ewww...Waterbugs *shudders* The bigger, juicer variant of the cockroach family.
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Postby Screambug » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:56 pm

Riotflea wrote:I'm starting to think gorilla, so he can have the scene where he's swinging in the city (in order to cash in on Spiderman 3 web-slinging type effects while still fresh in the public's mind).


Yes, he swings around like a damn monkey. Maybe he farts, scratches around for fleas to nibble at, and eats bananas, too?

Are we seeing a movie about Transformers - or Beast Wars? :lol:
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Postby Blitzwing the warrior » Sat Jun 16, 2007 11:39 pm

Sherade, I think your sig explains why Bonecrusher hates things so much
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Postby Burn » Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:02 am

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Screambug wrote:Yes, he swings around like a damn monkey.


Yeah. Once. Apparently that's enough for people to classify him as a monkey. :roll:

By that same narrow minded thinking Jazz could be considered a flea or some other fast moving annoying insect.
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