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Postby mizanyx » Sat Sep 01, 2007 12:50 am

The sad truth is that we humans are doomed to stay here in Earth because our current bodies are not designed at all to outer space and such. We need nutrients produced by plants that are too integrated with Earth ecosystems. We weren't able to create a closed minimal self sufficient habitat (Biosphere 2). So if we really want to go to other solar systems, we have to upgrade our bodies or upload our minds to machines capable of doing that. The price that we will have to pay to fly and colonize other stars is that we will lose our humanity, as such.
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Postby Handels-Messerschmitt » Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:30 am

This depends on how you define "humanity". Is this entirely based upon our physical bodies or does it go deeper? I'm inclined to think that humanity is about your capability to think and empathise, not your appearance.
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Postby Cowboy Bebop » Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:17 am

Tammuz wrote:
DesalationReborn wrote:
Tammuz wrote:could someone define the difference between a human and a sentient machine?


One breaks down much more easily and has a terrible time finding replacement parts?


you own BMW?

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Anywho, I don't see this as turning humans into Transformer-like beings but like the cyborgs from GHost in the Shell. THey still remained human, had there brain (although incased in a shell) and had the potential for so many things.

I like the idea of being able to have a prosthetic body, as the show calls it, and have the ability to do so many things i'm limited to and still retain my humanity.
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Postby shockticus » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:02 pm

Tangent wrote:
Zombie Starscream wrote:
Tangent wrote:
Zombie Starscream wrote: What happens to the people who do not want these replacement parts? Will they become outcasts?


They will be Upgraded!
Against their will? :shock:


Yes, or Deleted!!

EXTERMINATE THE DOCTOR!
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Postby Tangent » Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:15 pm

shockticus wrote:
Tangent wrote:
Zombie Starscream wrote:
Tangent wrote:
Zombie Starscream wrote: What happens to the people who do not want these replacement parts? Will they become outcasts?


They will be Upgraded!
Against their will? :shock:


Yes, or Deleted!!

EXTERMINATE THE DOCTOR!


Thats Daleks, not Cybermen! But im glad someone got it.

I do like the idea of transhumanism, some aspects of it anyway. Living forever, not so much. But a bit longer and more healthy, thats ace.

As for the world bring converted into one big city, some people think that instead there will be a few very compact but well thoughtout cities, leaving the rest of the world to go back to nature, as it were.

I just know id like a built in jetpack/hanglider. :grin:
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Postby skippytron » Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:37 pm

this is all sooo Bladerunner. i LOVE Bladerunner.

I think we will burn brighter, like Roy, but not longer. its the problem with real brains. just so hard to come by..
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Postby Devastator » Fri Sep 14, 2007 11:13 pm

Man, I thought this post would be about transgender humans vs transgender robots. Now that would be interesting!
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Postby shockticus » Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:56 pm

Devastator wrote:Man, I thought this post would be about transgender humans vs transgender robots. Now that would be interesting!
:shock:
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Postby Tangent » Mon Sep 17, 2007 5:24 pm

shockticus wrote:
Devastator wrote:Man, I thought this post would be about transgender humans vs transgender robots. Now that would be interesting!
:shock:


Devastator is a scary mod :cry:
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Postby SoundMaster1 » Tue Sep 18, 2007 1:46 pm

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Tangent wrote:
shockticus wrote:
Devastator wrote:Man, I thought this post would be about transgender humans vs transgender robots. Now that would be interesting!
:shock:


Devastator is a scary mod :cry:

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Postby Handels-Messerschmitt » Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:31 pm

That statement further drives home the point that Devastator is an entity entirely to my tastes, oh yes.
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