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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:57 pm

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:All jokes are not funny when you think about it.....how many bad jokes have you heard in your life :-P
Lost count.

Jokes aren't allways funny to EVERYBODY but they should be funny to SOMEBODY. The Dick Greayson calling himself Nightwing in Batman Forever was funny to me. I laughed when he said that line.

However later in Batman and Robin he actully had a costume that resembled Nightwing's with the large bird across his chest rather than the little "R" symbol that's common on all other Robin costumes. He only really used that Nightwing looking costume for the last sceen in the movie but he had it. It wasn't funny or a joke, jost a homage to his other identity.


Your a little mixed up there.....the Batman movie was called "Batman & Robin" and he used the Nightwing looking costume the entire movie not just at the end of the film.
Here's the trailer see if you reconize the voice of the anouncer
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But like I said the joke in Batman Forever wasnt funny to be or to anyone I know who saw the film but thats the point of an "inside joke" only fans with knowledge on the topic of the joke would catch the refrance.
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Postby craggy » Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:12 pm

wow, de-rail-o-rama.
First off, Saber Prime, I don't want to sound offensive, but please don't talk about things you blatantly don't know much about. You're not totally wrong about all the Green Lantern trivia you've posted, but are quite obviously behind the times with things, and perhaps not always remembering things right as well.
I'm not exactly Geoff Johns myself, but here's a quick run-down of the Green Lanterns and their relationship to humans:
The first Green Lantern in comics was Alan Scott, who got his lantern and ring from a crashed train. They'd been carved from a meteor, which was later revealed (retconned) to have been a part of the Starheart. This was what the Guardians had used to store all the rogue magic in the universe into, and the basis for the Central Battery on OA. There were Green Lanterns already out there in space, but again, none of this was known (i.e. hadn't been made up by a writer) at the time of the Alan Scott stories.
When DC decided to revamp the Green Lantern character as they had done the Flash, they made this GL Hal Jordan, a test pilot who got his ring and lantern from dying alien GL Abin Sur. Sur was a member of the intergalactic Green Lantern Corps and their rings, unlike Alan Scott's were powerless against the colour yellow. (First wood, then yellow-GLs have pretty crappy weaknesses, eh?) Hal was GL for quite a while, and, being somewhat lower down the popularity ladder than the likes of Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman, was experimented with by writers a lot more over the years. Guy Gardner was introduced as a back-up GL, but was involved in an accident that left him comatose for years, and John Stewart was introduced to replace him. John actually got to use the ring and eventually went off into space and married another (alien) GL. Guy became GL at some point as well, I think around Crisis on Infinite Earths, and was a member of the Justice League for some time during the 80s and early 90s.
When DC killed Superman they had a bad guy destroy Hal's home town, and this, along with a few other things kinda drove him crazy. He became Parallax and wiped out the Corps, the Guardians and nearly the entire universe. Meanwhile, John joined the Darkstars (wannabe GLs) and Guy had started using Sinestro's yellow power ring, under the new, catchy superhero code-name of Guy Gardner.
Along came Kyle, and for a long time he was the only GL in mainstream DC continuity. He was in the reformed JLA and shown to be pretty much at least as good as Hal. In fact, somehow, a universe that had once needed 3600 Lanterns managed to survive pretty well with just one.
When Warner was making their Justice League animated series someone (I don't know who) decided to use John Stewart, and he worked out pretty well, probably becoming the GL that the mainsteam non-comics reading man on the street knows about.
GL:Rebirth brought an end to Kyle's run as the last Green Lantern, and revived Hal and the Corps. Everything was back to normal, only now there were twice as many Lanterns across the universe, and the comics got really good. There are currently 4 human Green Lanterns: Hal, Kyle, John and Guy, but Gardner at least is one of the GL Honour Guard, a kind of special missions GL who goes everywhere and does anything, not restricted to a specific sector. They're all presently involved in a big cosmic smackdown, with an equally huge group of evil yellow ring slingers called the Sinestro Corps, led by disgraced former-GL Sinestro and counting 2 alternate evil Supermen amongst their number. I imagine things will change in the aftermath of this storyline too.

However, to bring this all back to the point that sparked this discussion, I actually think Hal isn't a bad choice for a Silverbolt analogue. They both have a certain way with the ladies, sometimes it's not good for them (Blackarachnia/Star Sapphire) and have turned evil at some point.
What I don't get is mentioning Firefly (the Batman villain) but not matching him up with Inferno. They're practically the same character. Crazy, delusional, cackling pyromaniacs.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:51 pm

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craggy wrote:wow, de-rail-o-rama.
First off, Saber Prime, I don't want to sound offensive, but please don't talk about things you blatantly don't know much about. You're not totally wrong about all the Green Lantern trivia you've posted, but are quite obviously behind the times with things, and perhaps not always remembering things right as well. I'm not exactly Geoff Johns myself, but here's a quick run-down of the Green Lanterns and their relationship to humans:
The first Green Lantern in comics was Alan Scott, who got his lantern and ring from a crashed train. They'd been carved from a meteor, which was later revealed (retconned) to have been a part of the Starheart. This was what the Guardians had used to store all the rogue magic in the universe into, and the basis for the Central Battery on OA. There were Green Lanterns already out there in space, but again, none of this was known (i.e. hadn't been made up by a writer) at the time of the Alan Scott stories.
When DC decided to revamp the Green Lantern character as they had done the Flash, they made this GL Hal Jordan, a test pilot who got his ring and lantern from dying alien GL Abin Sur. Sur was a member of the intergalactic Green Lantern Corps and their rings, unlike Alan Scott's were powerless against the colour yellow. (First wood, then yellow-GLs have pretty crappy weaknesses, eh?) Hal was GL for quite a while, and, being somewhat lower down the popularity ladder than the likes of Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman, was experimented with by writers a lot more over the years. Guy Gardner was introduced as a back-up GL, but was involved in an accident that left him comatose for years, and John Stewart was introduced to replace him. John actually got to use the ring and eventually went off into space and married another (alien) GL. Guy became GL at some point as well, I think around Crisis on Infinite Earths, and was a member of the Justice League for some time during the 80s and early 90s.
When DC killed Superman they had a bad guy destroy Hal's home town, and this, along with a few other things kinda drove him crazy. He became Parallax and wiped out the Corps, the Guardians and nearly the entire universe. Meanwhile, John joined the Darkstars (wannabe GLs) and Guy had started using Sinestro's yellow power ring, under the new, catchy superhero code-name of Guy Gardner.
Along came Kyle, and for a long time he was the only GL in mainstream DC continuity. He was in the reformed JLA and shown to be pretty much at least as good as Hal. In fact, somehow, a universe that had once needed 3600 Lanterns managed to survive pretty well with just one.
When Warner was making their Justice League animated series someone (I don't know who) decided to use John Stewart, and he worked out pretty well, probably becoming the GL that the mainsteam non-comics reading man on the street knows about.
GL:Rebirth brought an end to Kyle's run as the last Green Lantern, and revived Hal and the Corps. Everything was back to normal, only now there were twice as many Lanterns across the universe, and the comics got really good. There are currently 4 human Green Lanterns: Hal, Kyle, John and Guy, but Gardner at least is one of the GL Honour Guard, a kind of special missions GL who goes everywhere and does anything, not restricted to a specific sector. They're all presently involved in a big cosmic smackdown, with an equally huge group of evil yellow ring slingers called the Sinestro Corps, led by disgraced former-GL Sinestro and counting 2 alternate evil Supermen amongst their number. I imagine things will change in the aftermath of this storyline too.

However, to bring this all back to the point that sparked this discussion, I actually think Hal isn't a bad choice for a Silverbolt analogue. They both have a certain way with the ladies, sometimes it's not good for them (Blackarachnia/Star Sapphire) and have turned evil at some point.
What I don't get is mentioning Firefly (the Batman villain) but not matching him up with Inferno. They're practically the same character. Crazy, delusional, cackling pyromaniacs.


Hey you did a pretty good job of putting it all together but you forgot to mention all the details of how Alan got his powers and how they came to earth in the first place.
So I'll do it.

Three and a half billion years ago a humanoid race from the world of Maltus sought to bring order to the stars. An offshoot of the race became known as the Guardians of the Universe. They sought to remove magic from the universe, and laid siege to the necromantic forces of the cosmos. The war was costly on both sides. The last to fall was the powerful Empire of Tears, finally subdued by the Guardians on the tombworld of Ysmault.

After the wars, the stray mystical energies were gathered and bound in an orb called the Starheart. Its strength grew over the eons, and eventually it became self-aware and was known as the Green Flame of Life. Though the Guardians were powerful, the force of magic was something that could not be contained forever. In preparation for this day, the Starheart willed a small portion of itself to travel through the universe to fulfill its destiny. As it travelled through space, the piece of the Starheart gathered debris over the centuries until in resembled a meteor.

Three billion years ago, the Green Lantern Corps was created. Wielding the mighty power ring, the Green Lanterns continued the Guardians' quest for order.

Two thousand years ago, one of the greatest of the Green Lanterns, Yalan Gur of Space Sector 2814, was nearly killed by a yellow beast. The Guardians removed his ring's yellow impurity, rather than risk losing their best Green Lantern to an arbitrary weakness.

Yalan Gur was soon corrupted by his power, forcing his will on the people of ancient China. The Guardians had no recourse but to instill a new weakness in Yalan Gur's ring to humble their errant Green Lantern. He was now vulnerable to the wood of the peasants' weapons. The Green Lantern was badly injured by the angry humans.

So enraged by the humans' attack and by the Guardians’ apparent betrayal, Yalan Gur did not order his ring to repair his wounds. Mortally injured, he plummeted to Earth, the air friction setting him on fire.

The wandering piece of the Starheart felt Yalan Gur's pain and joined with the Green Lantern. He died during reentry to Earth's atmosphere, his life force absorbed by his power battery. Its casing melted and fused with the piece of the mystical Starheart. The Guardians left the remains on Earth, as a monument and prison to a fallen Green Lantern.

The remains were found by local villagers and considered a meteor. Chang, a lamp maker that dabbled in sorcery, heard a mental cry from Yalan's tortured spirit. "Three times shall I flame green!" it spoke, "First - to bring death!" it promised in rage, "Second - to bring life!" in its remorse, and "Third - to bring power!" in his desire to live again.

Chang had read prophecy regarding the strange green meteor and took a part of it, frightening the people of the village. They had believed Chang and the fallen star were evil. Chang made a lamp of the molten metal, angering the villagers to the point of attacking him. They burned his books and it was believed they had killed him. In turn the villagers were killed by green flame of the lamp. "First - to bring death!"

The lamp passed through many hands over the years. It brought good luck and fortune to the good of heart. To the evil, though they might achieve mighty conquests, in the end it brought destruction.

In the twentieth century, the lamp was brought to America by a trio of adventurers who had tracked the pirates of the China seas. Eventually, it was abandoned just north of Gotham City, outside the Arkham Asylum for the Criminally Insane.

The lamp was found in a trash can and given to one of the patients, Mr. Billings. He had killed his broker in the aftermath of the stock market crash of 1929. Billings was fond of working with metals, and transformed the Chinese lamp into a train lantern.

As the lantern flamed with light, Billings was cured of his insanity. Soon, he walked out of Arkham Asylum a sane man. "Second - to bring life!"

In 1939, the lantern and engineer Alan Scott were onboard a train testing the newly constructed Trestle Bridge in the American West. A fellow engineer of Scott's was worried about their competitor in the bid for the bridge, an unscrupulous man named Albert Dekker. Scott did not believe Dekker would stoop so low as to sabotage their trial run, but he was wrong. While crossing the bridge there was a mighty explosion, the train was hurled to the ground below.

All on the train were killed, except for Alan Scott. The green lantern's flame illuminated the wreckage and spoke to Scott, telling him much of its story. The flame promised Scott that power over the dark, evil things would be his if he had faith in himself. If he lost his faith, he would lose his power, because willpower was the flame of the green lantern. Scott was told to carve away part of the lantern to make a ring of power. The ring would need to be touched to the green lantern once every twenty-four hours.

Dazed and confused, Alan Scott swore revenge on Dekker. He returned to his office and set to work on creating a ring. Scott found the metal formed easily, almost as if the ring were willing itself to be shaped. The lantern was his power source.

Willing the ring to find Dekker, Scott found the ring granted him amazing powers, such as flight and the ability to walk through walls. He had a strange immunity to metals as bullets and knives could not stop him, but wood proved a vulnerability. Though Scott's strength was that of a normal man, he fought well against Dekker's men.

Dekker tried to bribe Scott, but the engineer would have no part of it. A high altitude flight persuaded Dekker to confess. Albert Dekker died soon after signing his confession, the shock had been too much for him.

Alan Scott felt the call of destiny. He decided to make himself a dread figure to evil, dressing in a costume of red and green. He created an oath, based on the words of the green flame. "Third - to bring power!" From that day forth, Alan Scott was known as the Golden Age Green Lantern.
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Postby craggy » Sun Nov 18, 2007 6:42 pm

jinkies, thats a lot more depth than i could have gone into about the golden age lantern. knew a bit about the starheart bit and vaguely remember reading the ancient china thing, but didn't recall it until you said there, and i never knew how the lantern got onto the train.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:00 pm

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craggy wrote:jinkies, thats a lot more depth than i could have gone into about the golden age lantern. knew a bit about the starheart bit and vaguely remember reading the ancient china thing, but didn't recall it until you said there, and i never knew how the lantern got onto the train.


Alan Scott has always been my fav Green Lantern :grin:
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Postby Saber Prime » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:07 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:All jokes are not funny when you think about it.....how many bad jokes have you heard in your life :-P
Lost count.

Jokes aren't allways funny to EVERYBODY but they should be funny to SOMEBODY. The Dick Greayson calling himself Nightwing in Batman Forever was funny to me. I laughed when he said that line.

However later in Batman and Robin he actully had a costume that resembled Nightwing's with the large bird across his chest rather than the little "R" symbol that's common on all other Robin costumes. He only really used that Nightwing looking costume for the last sceen in the movie but he had it. It wasn't funny or a joke, jost a homage to his other identity.


Your a little mixed up there.....the Batman movie was called "Batman & Robin" and he used the Nightwing looking costume the entire movie not just at the end of the film.
Here's the trailer see if you reconize the voice of the anouncer
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aKNSstnq4sg

But like I said the joke in Batman Forever wasnt funny to be or to anyone I know who saw the film but thats the point of an "inside joke" only fans with knowledge on the topic of the joke would catch the refrance.


Why are you correcting me on the movie title?

Saber Prime wrote:However later in Batman and Robin he actully had a costume that resembled Nightwing's with the large bird across his chest rather than the little "R" symbol that's common on all other Robin costumes.


Obviously I know what the title is, I said it. :P

Secondly I forgot about the red version. I really hate "Batman and Robin" so haven't watched it any time recently. I was thinking of his other costume that he wears at the end of that movie. They all have Black and Silver costumes by the end of the movie.

I think I was thinking he still had the same costume from the end of Batman Forever at the begining of Batman and Robin. Guess he's actully had 4 costumes in the movies and he's only been in 2 movies. :lol:

Batman Forever he started with a modified circus uniform just like the original Robin costume (only with more modern syle tights rather than what Burt Ward had which looked like nothing) Then he had a rubber costume like Batman's by the end of the movie that still had his "R" symbol on it. Then the costume with the red bird symbol in "Batman and Robin" and changed to a Silver bird symbol at the end of the movie.

I just forgot he had the red bird symbol costume.
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Postby Saber Prime » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:24 pm

Here are his costumes...

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Couldn't find a picture of him in the original modified circus uniform.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:59 pm

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Saber Prime wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:All jokes are not funny when you think about it.....how many bad jokes have you heard in your life :-P
Lost count.

Jokes aren't allways funny to EVERYBODY but they should be funny to SOMEBODY. The Dick Greayson calling himself Nightwing in Batman Forever was funny to me. I laughed when he said that line.

However later in Batman and Robin he actully had a costume that resembled Nightwing's with the large bird across his chest rather than the little "R" symbol that's common on all other Robin costumes. He only really used that Nightwing looking costume for the last sceen in the movie but he had it. It wasn't funny or a joke, jost a homage to his other identity.


Your a little mixed up there.....the Batman movie was called "Batman & Robin" and he used the Nightwing looking costume the entire movie not just at the end of the film.
Here's the trailer see if you reconize the voice of the anouncer
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aKNSstnq4sg

But like I said the joke in Batman Forever wasnt funny to be or to anyone I know who saw the film but thats the point of an "inside joke" only fans with knowledge on the topic of the joke would catch the refrance.


Why are you correcting me on the movie title?

Saber Prime wrote:However later in Batman and Robin he actully had a costume that resembled Nightwing's with the large bird across his chest rather than the little "R" symbol that's common on all other Robin costumes.


Obviously I know what the title is, I said it. :P

Secondly I forgot about the red version. I really hate "Batman and Robin" so haven't watched it any time recently. I was thinking of his other costume that he wears at the end of that movie. They all have Black and Silver costumes by the end of the movie.

I think I was thinking he still had the same costume from the end of Batman Forever at the begining of Batman and Robin. Guess he's actully had 4 costumes in the movies and he's only been in 2 movies. :lol:

Batman Forever he started with a modified circus uniform just like the original Robin costume (only with more modern syle tights rather than what Burt Ward had which looked like nothing) Then he had a rubber costume like Batman's by the end of the movie that still had his "R" symbol on it. Then the costume with the red bird symbol in "Batman and Robin" and changed to a Silver bird symbol at the end of the movie.

I just forgot he had the red bird symbol costume.


I only put the title in cause I was sleepy....I read trew your post to fast the first time :oops:
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Postby Saber Prime » Mon Nov 19, 2007 4:50 am

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It had been established in the past that each Green Lantern has his, her, or its own oath. For example, Medphyl, the Green Lantern of the planet J586 (seen in Swamp Thing # 61, "All Flesh is Grass"), a planet where a sentient plant species lives, has the following oath:

In forest dark or glade beferned
No blade of grass shall go unturned
Let those who have the daylight spurned
Tread not where this green lamp has burned.


This Green Lantern's planet sounds like the Planet Botanica scaned her alt mode from. Anyone know if Medphyl is a girl?


Had to quote myself sence no one ever answered this question. I don't know who to add for Botanica and this Green Lantern would be a great match if it's a female.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:21 pm

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Saber Prime wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:
It had been established in the past that each Green Lantern has his, her, or its own oath. For example, Medphyl, the Green Lantern of the planet J586 (seen in Swamp Thing # 61, "All Flesh is Grass"), a planet where a sentient plant species lives, has the following oath:

In forest dark or glade beferned
No blade of grass shall go unturned
Let those who have the daylight spurned
Tread not where this green lamp has burned.


This Green Lantern's planet sounds like the Planet Botanica scaned her alt mode from. Anyone know if Medphyl is a girl?


Had to quote myself sence no one ever answered this question. I don't know who to add for Botanica and this Green Lantern would be a great match if it's a female.


Maybe you should use this hero....I dont think she has ever been a full member of the League but I thought her name would be a good match
Black Orchid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Orchid

Here are 2 pics from when thay did a story called Justic League of Amazons.

Sorry but this is all I could find right now....thats her on the top of the others.

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Postby Saber Prime » Mon Nov 19, 2007 5:25 pm

The characters don't actully need to have ever been in the Justice League, they just have to be from DC Comics and fit the personality and/or alt mode of the Transformer as best you can.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:20 pm

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Well Black Orchid fits Botanica's powers and look but from what I remember of her perspnalty she was a bit of a nut.
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Postby Saber Prime » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:09 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Well Black Orchid fits Botanica's powers and look but from what I remember of her perspnalty she was a bit of a nut.
From what I remember of Soloman Grundy he's a bit of an extreamly large and strong child throwing a temper tantrum. (not exactly but that's a fairly close comparison I think)

Not really honor bound like Dinobot.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:15 am

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Saber Prime wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Well Black Orchid fits Botanica's powers and look but from what I remember of her perspnalty she was a bit of a nut.
From what I remember of Soloman Grundy he's a bit of an extreamly large and strong child throwing a temper tantrum. (not exactly but that's a fairly close comparison I think)

Not really honor bound like Dinobot.


You guoted my Black Orchid/Botanica but mention my Soloman Grundy/Dinobot sugestion from a few days back :-? Guess you were to lazy to look up the right post :-P The only reason I suggested Soloman Grundy for Dinobot was because you were looking for a bad guy gone good that dies and comes back bad and turns good again.Soloman Grundy has done that several times in the past.
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Postby Saber Prime » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:21 am

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
Saber Prime wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Well Black Orchid fits Botanica's powers and look but from what I remember of her perspnalty she was a bit of a nut.
From what I remember of Soloman Grundy he's a bit of an extreamly large and strong child throwing a temper tantrum. (not exactly but that's a fairly close comparison I think)

Not really honor bound like Dinobot.


You guoted my Black Orchid/Botanica but mention my Soloman Grundy/Dinobot sugestion from a few days back :-? Guess you were to lazy to look up the right post :-P The only reason I suggested Soloman Grundy for Dinobot was because you were looking for a bad guy gone good that dies and comes back bad and turns good again.Soloman Grundy has done that several times in the past.
It was because you mentioned Black Orchid's personality didn't really match Batanica's that I quoted that and then brought up Soloman Grundy's personality doesn't match Dinobot's.
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Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:52 am

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sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:Well Black Orchid fits Botanica's powers and look but from what I remember of her perspnalty she was a bit of a nut.
From what I remember of Soloman Grundy he's a bit of an extreamly large and strong child throwing a temper tantrum. (not exactly but that's a fairly close comparison I think)

Not really honor bound like Dinobot.


You guoted my Black Orchid/Botanica but mention my Soloman Grundy/Dinobot sugestion from a few days back :-? Guess you were to lazy to look up the right post :-P The only reason I suggested Soloman Grundy for Dinobot was because you were looking for a bad guy gone good that dies and comes back bad and turns good again.Soloman Grundy has done that several times in the past.
It was because you mentioned Black Orchid's personality didn't really match Batanica's that I quoted that and then brought up Soloman Grundy's personality doesn't match Dinobot's.


Yeah the personalities dont match up for ether but some of the other aspects of the characters do....ether way it was the only one I could think of.
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Postby genozaur » Tue Nov 20, 2007 10:42 am

those are some rather interesting ideas.

heres my take on it.

imagine an elseworlds setting in which each member of the autobots is a take on each member of the justice league.

for example

darknight would have cybertron megatrons body

http://www.tfu.info/2005/Decepticon/Meg ... gatron.htm

armada skywarp's head

http://www.tfu.info/2003/Decepticon/Skywarp/facepic.jpg

and a rather large armor beast falcon that he can combine with as power up armor

basicly picture cybertron megatron sporting this guys body armor and armored cape for the merged form

http://goodben.deviantart.com/art/knightfall-36058207

give it the justice lords batman colorscheme and that would be damn sweet.
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