The Energon Pub

OK so I'm seeing alot of talk sugesting that people are fans of the Comic Dinobots (who addmittedly I knew nothing about before reading this) not the cartoon versions.

This still begs the question of why the Dinobots are so much more popular than other subgroups like the Stunticons or the Insecticons (if you wanna go the non-combiner team rout).

Personally I've allways had a fasination with hero look alikes. Characters like Tyrant (Statesman), Bizzaro (Superman), Nega Duck (Darkwing Duck), Sinestro (Green Lanturn), and Motormaster (Optimus Prime). Granted the Stunticons only look like the Autobots in vehicle mode while haveing completly different robot modes but they still count. No look alike is ever an exact copy.

Dinobots gets more early screen time than the other sub-groups. So their characterization sticks more to our memories. Our earliest exposures to sub-groups. They became a standard, or a trailblazer that we compare and expect other sub-groups to live up to.

Saber Prime wrote:OK so I'm seeing alot of talk sugesting that people are fans of the Comic Dinobots (who addmittedly I knew nothing about before reading this) not the cartoon versions.

This still begs the question of why the Dinobots are so much more popular than other subgroups like the Stunticons or the Insecticons (if you wanna go the non-combiner team rout).

Personally I've allways had a fasination with hero look alikes. Characters like Tyrant (Statesman), Bizzaro (Superman), Nega Duck (Darkwing Duck), Sinestro (Green Lanturn), and Motormaster (Optimus Prime). Granted the Stunticons only look like the Autobots in vehicle mode while haveing completly different robot modes but they still count. No look alike is ever an exact copy.

Yes, I see your point, but that would be with bad guys that look like good guys. The Dinobots are good guys, but are anti-heros (especially Comic Grimlock), which is another reason I think I enjoy them. Sure, they act dumb, but they are some of the very few hardcore Autobots.

Also, they turn into Dinosaurs and, as someone else stated already, a lot of boys have a fascination with dinosaurs starting when they are young (I know I did and I had the Dinobots as a part of it as it was going on).

Predaprince wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:OK so I'm seeing alot of talk sugesting that people are fans of the Comic Dinobots (who addmittedly I knew nothing about before reading this) not the cartoon versions.

This still begs the question of why the Dinobots are so much more popular than other subgroups like the Stunticons or the Insecticons (if you wanna go the non-combiner team rout).

Personally I've allways had a fasination with hero look alikes. Characters like Tyrant (Statesman), Bizzaro (Superman), Nega Duck (Darkwing Duck), Sinestro (Green Lanturn), and Motormaster (Optimus Prime). Granted the Stunticons only look like the Autobots in vehicle mode while haveing completly different robot modes but they still count. No look alike is ever an exact copy.

Yes, I see your point, but that would be with bad guys that look like good guys. The Dinobots are good guys, but are anti-heros (especially Comic Grimlock), which is another reason I think I enjoy them. Sure, they act dumb, but they are some of the very few hardcore Autobots.

Also, they turn into Dinosaurs and, as someone else stated already, a lot of boys have a fascination with dinosaurs starting when they are young (I know I did and I had the Dinobots as a part of it as it was going on).

Hell, my son does. Just today he was all excited about a glow-in-the-dark dinosaur shirt he got. & I might add one of his favorite TFs is classic Grimlock....though being 3 he can't seem to figure out how to keep his tail on.

Glue them!

Auto Bot wrote:Glue them!

Heh, If I glued all the pieces he had problems with on that toy...it'd lose all ability to move. Nah, right now I'm just gonna try to keep up with the pieces untill his motor functions catch up & he can actually transform these guys himself.

I hated the Dinobots and was never a fan of them in cartoon, toy, or comic. I want to say I'm not a fan of animal Transformers but that's not true. I mean, I love all the cassette animals, the Predacons, Skylynx, Gnaw, Allicons, the monsterbots, those season 4 triple changer w/ animals. The bottom line is, I like all other animal TFs except the Dinobots. I don't know why. Of all the Dinobots, the only one that I like the most is Swoop.

But if I had to choose between cartoon or comic Dinobots, I have to say the cartoon even though I never read the Marvel comic. The reason is, I like my Dinobots to be stupid just because I'm a cartoon fan

Saber Prime wrote:Personally I've allways had a fasination with hero look alikes. Characters like Tyrant (Statesman), Bizzaro (Superman), Nega Duck (Darkwing Duck), Sinestro (Green Lanturn), and Motormaster (Optimus Prime). Granted the Stunticons only look like the Autobots in vehicle mode while haveing completly different robot modes but they still count. No look alike is ever an exact copy.

Same here, hence why I love Guiltor so much . I think of him as a way cooler version of Nemesis Prime before Nemesis Prime was ever thought up(and he isn't just a lame black repaint). Motormaster predates old Guiltor of course, but Guiltor looks way better in my opinion, and is more of an "evil Prime". I also love Protocide(original protoype for Captain America, had a small arc in Captain America Vol. 3).

Oh, and as for the Dinobots, for me it's simple: I loved Dinosaurs when I was a kid(still do to a certain degree), and I liked robots. Put the two together, and it's just plain awsome. The comic versions, of which I haven't read all that much of, are just a nice bonus. And they were also awsomely powerful too.

Duke of Luns wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:Personally I've allways had a fasination with hero look alikes. Characters like Tyrant (Statesman), Bizzaro (Superman), Nega Duck (Darkwing Duck), Sinestro (Green Lanturn), and Motormaster (Optimus Prime). Granted the Stunticons only look like the Autobots in vehicle mode while haveing completly different robot modes but they still count. No look alike is ever an exact copy.

Same here, hence why I love Guiltor so much . I think of him as a way cooler version of Nemesis Prime before Nemesis Prime was ever thought up(and he isn't just a lame black repaint). Motormaster predates old Guiltor of course, but Guiltor looks way better in my opinion, and is more of an "evil Prime". I also love Protocide(original protoype for Captain America, had a small arc in Captain America Vol. 3).

Oh, and as for the Dinobots, for me it's simple: I loved Dinosaurs when I was a kid(still do to a certain degree), and I liked robots. Put the two together, and it's just plain awsome. The comic versions, of which I haven't read all that much of, are just a nice bonus. And they were also awsomely powerful too.

Personally I think RID Scourge is the best evil Prime but I like Guiltor allso even though I've never read the comics and never even knew he exsisted till I saw your sig.

Anyway I don't remember ever haveing much intrest in Dinosaurs. I remember learning about them in school and watching a few cartoons and other shows that had dinosaurs in them (sadly one of thoughs shows was Power Rangers ) but I was never really into them that much. Land Before Time is one dinosaur movie that really sticks out in my mind right now but I didn't really like that movie.

Oh man, Land Before Time. It's been years since I watched that movie, but my sister says I used to rent it like every other week when I was little. Eventually I got a copy of my own, from McDonald's I think. There's like seven Land Before Time movies now, I think I saw up to number three, then outgrew 'em. *edit* Wiki'd it for the heck of it, and saw that there are 13 Land Before Time movies. A bit much in my opinion, but oh well, the original will still have a place in me, and I thought it was pretty good.

And not picking, but if that's the only dinosaur movie that sticks out, you've never seen Jurrassic Park? That was also one of my favorite toylines when I was a kid, and I loved the Command Center when I got it for Christmas.

What's wrong with admitting you used to like Power Rangers? Sure, I think I was losing interest around Turbo, and stopped watching when they went into space, but I still have a nastalgia for them. I still have the Ninja and original Megazords, with all their original parts amazingly. But never the Dragonzord, which I will get someday.

I think THIS is the reason people like the Dinobots so much...

They're cute and goofy and, come on, who doesn't like dinosaurs?

Duke of Luns wrote:Oh man, Land Before Time. It's been years since I watched that movie, but my sister says I used to rent it like every other week when I was little. Eventually I got a copy of my own, from McDonald's I think. There's like seven Land Before Time movies now, I think I saw up to number three, then outgrew 'em. *edit* Wiki'd it for the heck of it, and saw that there are 13 Land Before Time movies. A bit much in my opinion, but oh well, the original will still have a place in me, and I thought it was pretty good.

And not picking, but if that's the only dinosaur movie that sticks out, you've never seen Jurrassic Park? That was also one of my favorite toylines when I was a kid, and I loved the Command Center when I got it for Christmas.

What's wrong with admitting you used to like Power Rangers? Sure, I think I was losing interest around Turbo, and stopped watching when they went into space, but I still have a nastalgia for them. I still have the Ninja and original Megazords, with all their original parts amazingly. But never the Dragonzord, which I will get someday.

I've never been able to watch Jarassic Park all the way through. I allways fall asleep in the first sceen. Nothing happens in that sceen and it drags on forever.

I actully said that to one of the Producers of Jarassic Park as well. Met Larry Franco in person back in 2004 when he was working on Hulk. Long story short, that was my senior year of high school and he allso granduated from the same school with one of my teachers. I ended up interviewing him for my exit project.

Finnally, what ISN'T wrong with Power Rangers? I went insaine, got put in special ed, and lost alot of friends in the same year that Power Rangers first came out.

Saber Prime wrote:Anyway I don't remember ever haveing much intrest in Dinosaurs. I remember learning about them in school and watching a few cartoons and other shows that had dinosaurs in them (sadly one of thoughs shows was Power Rangers ) but I was never really into them that much. Land Before Time is one dinosaur movie that really sticks out in my mind right now but I didn't really like that movie.

how about the old cartoon show TRex, that one always used to make me laugh

ThunderThruster wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:Anyway I don't remember ever haveing much intrest in Dinosaurs. I remember learning about them in school and watching a few cartoons and other shows that had dinosaurs in them (sadly one of thoughs shows was Power Rangers ) but I was never really into them that much. Land Before Time is one dinosaur movie that really sticks out in my mind right now but I didn't really like that movie.

how about the old cartoon show TRex, that one always used to make me laugh

Never heard of it

Saber Prime wrote:

ThunderThruster wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:Anyway I don't remember ever haveing much intrest in Dinosaurs. I remember learning about them in school and watching a few cartoons and other shows that had dinosaurs in them (sadly one of thoughs shows was Power Rangers ) but I was never really into them that much. Land Before Time is one dinosaur movie that really sticks out in my mind right now but I didn't really like that movie.

how about the old cartoon show TRex, that one always used to make me laugh

Never heard of it

Dinosaurs Looks down its nose a TRex....Y'all know what program I'm talking about

I loved the show Dinosaurs, and the movie "We're Back"...and Jurassic Park. Holy crap! I DID go through a dinosaur phase! Hee hee, and I'm a girl.

Moonbase2 wrote:I loved the show Dinosaurs, and the movie "We're Back"...and Jurassic Park. Holy crap! I DID go through a dinosaur phase! Hee hee, and I'm a girl.

Dinosaurs, is that the one with the Simpsons like Dinosaur family? (Simpsons like in that there was a fat father, a tallmother, son, daughter? and baby. ? = Not sure if there was actully a daughter.)

Saber Prime wrote:

Moonbase2 wrote:I loved the show Dinosaurs, and the movie "We're Back"...and Jurassic Park. Holy crap! I DID go through a dinosaur phase! Hee hee, and I'm a girl.

Dinosaurs, is that the one with the Simpsons like Dinosaur family? (Simpsons like in that there was a fat father, a tallmother, son, daughter? and baby. ? = Not sure if there was actully a daughter.)

Yeah, the dad was like a construction worker or something. They had two teenaged kids and the baby (Not the mama!). That was one of the coolest shows ever.

Moonbase2 wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:

Moonbase2 wrote:I loved the show Dinosaurs, and the movie "We're Back"...and Jurassic Park. Holy crap! I DID go through a dinosaur phase! Hee hee, and I'm a girl.

Dinosaurs, is that the one with the Simpsons like Dinosaur family? (Simpsons like in that there was a fat father, a tallmother, son, daughter? and baby. ? = Not sure if there was actully a daughter.)

Yeah, the dad was like a construction worker or something. They had two teenaged kids and the baby (Not the mama!). That was one of the coolest shows ever.

Yeah, that was a great show....

Nemesis Cyberplex wrote:

Moonbase2 wrote:

Saber Prime wrote:

Moonbase2 wrote:I loved the show Dinosaurs, and the movie "We're Back"...and Jurassic Park. Holy crap! I DID go through a dinosaur phase! Hee hee, and I'm a girl.

Dinosaurs, is that the one with the Simpsons like Dinosaur family? (Simpsons like in that there was a fat father, a tallmother, son, daughter? and baby. ? = Not sure if there was actully a daughter.)

Yeah, the dad was like a construction worker or something. They had two teenaged kids and the baby (Not the mama!). That was one of the coolest shows ever.

Yeah, that was a great show....

Yup I use to watch that show but that was more because I liked the baby and it looked like a Simpsons spoof.

They are so cute and stupid.

They are tough.

All the above and b/c they've never been reissued to the best of my knowledge. Sure there are knockoffs and the WST versions but so far Takara didn't reissue them years ago with the bookstyles and there werent' any reissues earlier than that. Also there weren't any reissued for Hasbro either. HIGHLY unlikely Hasbro will reissue them as well, all in all they are kick ass and we want them reissued, years ago.

tequila stu wrote:Short answer. Cartoon dinobots suck, comic dinobots kick all kinds of ass.

I disagree, the Comic Grimlock sucked

I thought the way they were in the toon was perfect

Dinosaurs with caveman personalities while in the comic Grimlock was a bully

Fortress_Maximus wrote:All the above and b/c they've never been reissued to the best of my knowledge. Sure there are knockoffs and the WST versions but so far Takara didn't reissue them years ago with the bookstyles and there werent' any reissues earlier than that. Also there weren't any reissued for Hasbro either. HIGHLY unlikely Hasbro will reissue them as well, all in all they are kick ass and we want them reissued, years ago.

It's very likely the molds are either broke or missing, which would be why they haven't made any new ones...otherwise they probably would have reissued at least Grimlock by now.
Hasbro has mentioned before that that is some of the reasons why figures such as Wheeljack haven't been reissued.
They also said that it is possible, though to take an existing mint condition toy & make a new mold from that, but the process is so costly that unless they know for sure they were going to get a crapload of money out of the reissue of said figure, as they & Takara have with Soundwave, then there is really no point.