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Why did the bots move around like monkeys?

Postby Buttz » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:20 pm

One thing I noticed is that there were a lot of flips going on, particularly when Ironhide is doing his thing in the final battle. But then there's also a lot of crawling around and dangling going on throughout the whole thing. I understand that since these are superadvanced machines they wouldn't approach a gunfight like a human would, but I really don't think they'd resort to simian battle tactics. I was half expecting Jazz to start flinging poo with his feet.
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Postby physucks » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:12 pm

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The scene on top of the bridge, at leat I think it's a bridge, where all the 'Bots came down right before the Sector Seven attack (My continuity is probably way off), reminded me a lot of the Ninja Turtles. they just needed a big metal pizza.
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Postby TheMuffin » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:14 pm

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If you could do flips and such while grabbing a bridge support while avoiding gunfire, wouldn't you be doing it at every chance as well? Moving and swinging and such are a sound way of throwing off an enemies aim so I say let em fly around like a monkey.
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Postby Decepticon Spike » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:15 pm

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I thought all of the flipping was a bit odd.
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Postby Dasleahicon » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:23 pm

Well, they are super-transforming cbernetic lifeforms from across spaaaaaaace! - I'm surprised that they went with the Protoforms still being humanoid. To a robot, surely the concept of 'right-way-up' and 'certain limbs for certain things' would be pretty pointless, and their bodies wouldn't be limited in the same way a human's is. They could have joints that fold in any direction they want.
So it was a bit strange to see them fighting like 'monkeys' but it didn't really bother me.

Optimus' lips, however....


*shudder*
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Postby Barricade » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:27 pm

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Decepticon Spike wrote:I thought all of the flipping was a bit odd.
i 2nd that
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Postby Decepticon Spike » Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:36 pm

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Dasleahicon wrote:Well, they are super-transforming cbernetic lifeforms from across spaaaaaaace! - I'm surprised that they went with the Protoforms still being humanoid. To a robot, surely the concept of 'right-way-up' and 'certain limbs for certain things' would be pretty pointless, and their bodies wouldn't be limited in the same way a human's is. They could have joints that fold in any direction they want.
So it was a bit strange to see them fighting like 'monkeys' but it didn't really bother me.

Optimus' lips, however....


*shudder*

The lips didn't bother me. Guess I got used to Cybertron OP having them.
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Postby Autobobby1 » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:18 pm

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I think that a better question would be "Why do monkeys move around like Transformers?" :P
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Postby FirstChAoS » Sat Jul 07, 2007 3:57 pm

Autobobby1 wrote:I think that a better question would be "Why do monkeys move around like Transformers?" :P


Blame Optimus Primal for that one. :)
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Postby Calenatarion » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:11 pm

TheMuffin wrote:If you could do flips and such while grabbing a bridge support while avoiding gunfire, wouldn't you be doing it at every chance as well? Moving and swinging and such are a sound way of throwing off an enemies aim so I say let em fly around like a monkey.


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Postby DTM » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:16 pm

I didn't see the movie yet but on the trailers Starscream flips around like a monkey and Transforms. Plus his toy does look a bit monkeyish. Big, long arms. Small feet. It all matches a monkey
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Postby Nico » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:34 pm

As far as i can tell...we ARE monkey!
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Postby AbsumZer0 » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:35 pm

What I'd like to know is why, in a movie about giant robots, they couldn't move like... giant robots. I can understand needing them to seem more fluid and organic, but their movements have as much grounding in physics as the fight scenes in Dragon Ball Z. Realism?

FirstChAoS wrote:
Autobobby1 wrote:I think that a better question would be "Why do monkeys move around like Transformers?" :P


Blame Optimus Primal for that one. :)


Primal wasn't a monkey.
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Postby fotfom » Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:44 pm

If we're gonna start questioning the way they move, and the fact that they are humanoid, why don't we question the fact that they move at all? They're just big computers with legs after all. Why don't they just look like big Home PCs and just send out virus signals to each other... wouldn't that be more efficient? It could be like PCbots vs Macbots imagine the money they could have saved in special effects. Frenzy could have been an iPod.

Now thats excitement!!!
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Postby Creature SH » Sat Jul 07, 2007 5:40 pm

This also a matter of visual character identity, though. I'm pretty sure that the decision was based on the current trends in CGI character animation (Technically, these Transformers are "creature FX") and Hollywood fight scenes, but I don't think that it was such a good decision. Flipping around like that makes them "feel" more like animals than like people.
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Postby Riotflea » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:05 pm

Barricade wrote:
Decepticon Spike wrote:I thought all of the flipping was a bit odd.
i 2nd that


Thirded, along with the robots never being still or on screen too long.

Got the STRONG feeling they were avoiding visual contact with the viewers so as to reduce the "this CGI could be better" factor.
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Postby Mechanurgist » Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:07 pm

Yeah, the constant rolling and swinging like monkeys was really annoying. Not at all like what I imagined the fights would be like.
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