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News Credits: 70 · by **Sideshow Sideswipe** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:00 pm

Jazz is awesome. nuff sed.

News Credits: 1013 · by **First Gen** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:03 pm

Thyunda wrote:It is logical. They could use the last part of the Allspark to give him back.
Plus, they only killed Jazz because he was the third most likeable character, after Bumblebee and Optimus, so they might actually bring him back.
And just because they ressurect a single Autobot doesn't mean there's no room for new characters. Honestly, there isn't exactly a population cap, is there?

Im with you on everything but the Allspark piece. No.

Im waiting to see how Will Smith will work his way into the movie, seeing as he's doing all the kickass movies now. You heard it from First Gen first.

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:11 pm

First Gen wrote:
Thyunda wrote:It is logical. They could use the last part of the Allspark to give him back.
Plus, they only killed Jazz because he was the third most likeable character, after Bumblebee and Optimus, so they might actually bring him back.
And just because they ressurect a single Autobot doesn't mean there's no room for new characters. Honestly, there isn't exactly a population cap, is there?

Im with you on everything but the Allspark piece. No.

Im waiting to see how Will Smith will work his way into the movie, seeing as he's doing all the kickass movies now. You heard it from First Gen first.

Actually, I said this a while back: the Allspark remain will be studied by Ratchet and discovered to be regenerating in much the same way that the TF armor does. They will subsequently name the radiation given off "Energon" due to its energizing properties. From there it will be discovered that the "radiation" is actually a form of atom-sized robots. They will regenerate Jazz in the same way Frenzy's body was regenerated in the first movie. From there, the Autobots will conclude that Megatron, since his spark merged with the Allspark, will also have regenerated and taken a new Earth form in disguise. The movie plot will revolve around the search for the origin of the AllSpark, eventually leading to the discovery of Primus and Unicron.

by **angelicbeef** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:16 pm

I could care less about the story, I just want to see more CGI!

News Credits: 2 · by **Insurgent** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:19 pm

Skowl wrote:
TheMuffin wrote:
Insurgent wrote:And let the spoilage and rumourmongering begin...

Personally, only if this is a flashback would I like to see this. Otherwise, leave the dead as dead.

But as this could be false info, I aint really paying it much attention.

But breaking news banner for this? Really? Or is it a bad joke since Jazz was breaking throughout the first movie?

First real news we've had for Transformers 2. Hence the banner.

Exactly. It's information regarding who may appear in Transformers 2. I think that's news people would want to hear about.

Fair enough. Just thought it was overkill for a rumour.

Though when Megs rips Jazz apart, you see his Spark flash brightly then fade out (it's quick, but certainly there. Watch where the seperation is). That's why Jazz should stay dead. His body wasn't just pulled apart, his very Spark was destroyed.

News Credits: 1013 · by **First Gen** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:20 pm

First-Aid wrote:
First Gen wrote:
Thyunda wrote:It is logical. They could use the last part of the Allspark to give him back.
Plus, they only killed Jazz because he was the third most likeable character, after Bumblebee and Optimus, so they might actually bring him back.
And just because they ressurect a single Autobot doesn't mean there's no room for new characters. Honestly, there isn't exactly a population cap, is there?

Im with you on everything but the Allspark piece. No.

Im waiting to see how Will Smith will work his way into the movie, seeing as he's doing all the kickass movies now. You heard it from First Gen first.

Actually, I said this a while back: the Allspark remain will be studied by Ratchet and discovered to be regenerating in much the same way that the TF armor does. They will subsequently name the radiation given off "Energon" due to its energizing properties. From there it will be discovered that the "radiation" is actually a form of atom-sized robots. They will regenerate Jazz in the same way Frenzy's body was regenerated in the first movie. From there, the Autobots will conclude that Megatron, since his spark merged with the Allspark, will also have regenerated and taken a new Earth form in disguise. The movie plot will revolve around the search for the origin of the AllSpark, eventually leading to the discovery of Primus and Unicron.

Wow, thats just, wow.

I like the idea of it, but I don't see the movie going that way. With so many new characters to introduce, I dont know about that.

Plus your theory about the atom size bots means that all TF's are in actuality MEGA gestalts in themselves, being made up of millions of atom sized bots.

by **Abilor** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:20 pm

bumblejumper/bumper wrote:no this is a false rumor because remeber how micheal bay said he was releasing fake info on TF2??? jazz isnt going to be in TF 2

Here here... My thoughts exactly...

by **Breeze** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:22 pm

OMFG!! THAT WOULD BE SOOOO COOL!

News Credits: 665 · by **Skowl** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:27 pm

Abilor wrote:
bumblejumper/bumper wrote:no this is a false rumor because remeber how micheal bay said he was releasing fake info on TF2??? jazz isnt going to be in TF 2

Here here... My thoughts exactly...

That's why there is going to be a disclaimer at the end of every news story regarding leaked TF2 info, and everything will be classified as a RUMOUR until substantial proof is given to support it.

See here.

by **Predacon Rampage** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:28 pm

Thats both good and bad news for me, I'm glad to see the second in command back, and he was only ripped in half, transformers have survived worse, but I know in my heart that it isn't right to revive dead characters. I would rather see Jazz back through, then have Arcee in the movie and cause of that commotion, as a survivor of the orginal movie Jazz deserved better anyway. Starscream and Jazz are very similiar in the sense that you just can't kill them.

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:32 pm

Skowl wrote:
Abilor wrote:
bumblejumper/bumper wrote:no this is a false rumor because remeber how micheal bay said he was releasing fake info on TF2??? jazz isnt going to be in TF 2

Here here... My thoughts exactly...

That's why there is going to be a disclaimer at the end of every news story regarding leaked TF2 info, and everything will be classified as a RUMOUR until substantial proof is given to support it.

See here.

Dude, love the sig but I got an idea for another one: same idea except with Elvis in it and it says: Elvis is dead. Get over it.

News Credits: 2 · by **First-Aid** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:35 pm

First Gen wrote:Wow, thats just, wow.

I like the idea of it, but I don't see the movie going that way. With so many new characters to introduce, I dont know about that.

Plus your theory about the atom size bots means that all TF's are in actuality MEGA gestalts in themselves, being made up of millions of atom sized bots.

Thanks for the compliment :-)

Someone else mentioned that Jazz's spark was snuffed out; I would propose that each atom-bot in Jazz's frame was imprinted with his being and should be able to regenerate it; I think they'd make the Spark more of the body's heart as opposed to its brain.

by **darth reven** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:36 pm

what the hell he died whats ratchet going to do spend all his time fixing him

by **Ramtough** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:37 pm

Well I'm all for zombie Jazz...after all Megatron can't be dead...can he?!

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:39 pm

A flashback makes a lot of sense, also it could be something where you see ratchet working on him periodically through the movie and at the end he is rebuilt to set up the third movie where it could be a big bang fight where all the help the bot have is needed.

A little like Pirates 2 and 3 but hey it's hollywood. Can you really put anything past them.

News Credits: 2 · by **Ultra Magnus** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:39 pm

As much as I enjoy Jazz's character, and as much as I like Darius McRary, I thought his lines as Jazz were god-awful. I hope they get a better Voice director for TF2. I agree with the above statements about hoping that this is a flashback; that would make the most sense. But, this is probably just false info, anyway.

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:41 pm

Seibertron wrote:There's a surprise

Do you know something?

by **Quaternion** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:44 pm

This is total B.S. I suspect this was some stunt planned by Bay to throw everyone off. Jazz is dead. May he rest in peace.

News Credits: 1013 · by **First Gen** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:44 pm

Robinson wrote:...also it could be something where you see ratchet working on him periodically through the movie and at the end he is rebuilt to set up the third movie where it could be a big bang fight where all the help the bot have is needed.

Oooh, oooh, oooh, and he can stand up when he's fixed and proclaim "Im a GOLDBUG!" :grin:

News Credits: 1013 · by **First Gen** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:46 pm

Robinson wrote:
Seibertron wrote:There's a surprise

Do you know something?

Ryan ALWAYS knows more than us. He gets free Leader Class Primes for crying out loud.

Ryan, be my friend ;;)

News Credits: 11 · by **Robinson** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:56 pm

First Gen wrote:
Robinson wrote:
Seibertron wrote:There's a surprise

Do you know something?

Ryan ALWAYS knows more than us. He gets free Leader Class Primes for crying out loud.

Ryan, be my friend

He got that whole movie care package a few months ago.

News Credits: 10 · by **JazZeke** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:07 pm

As a Jazz fan I have mixed feelings about this. As much as I want to see Jazz in the movies again there are so many other characters that need screen time. Plus, dead should be dead. They shouldn't have killed him off in the first place, but now that it's been done to undo it would only cheapen his death even further.

News Credits: 198 · by **DevastaTTor** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:13 pm

I hope this is one of the false rumors. A Jazz return would kill the movie credibility. Next off, Green Bonecrusher will emerge from the jungles of South America and Prime can rip his head off again. Welcome to Transformer land where no one ever dies.

News Credits: 7 · by **BigBot** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:22 pm

"Prime, we couldn't save him"

Dead. Michael having fun.

News Credits: 8 · by **Megatron Wolf** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:23 pm

If Jazz does come back he needs a new voice actor. Id say get Phillip Michael Thomas and have him do the Lance Vance voice from Grand Theft Auto. Pick up Vice City stories and Listen to Lance. Sounds like G1 Jazz.