Pontimax 01 wrote:F bomb in ROTF dvd? Where at? I know when she sees Jetfire is a decepticon you can hear her mutter "****" quietly.
NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:me and my friends combine all the time. Sometimes I even combine by myself if no one is around.
Evil_the_Nub wrote:Pontimax 01 wrote:F bomb in ROTF dvd? Where at? I know when she sees Jetfire is a decepticon you can hear her mutter "****" quietly.
It's when Sam dies, she yells "f*cking do something!" It's kind of hard to make out because it was in that muffled in the distance sort of effect.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Rodimus Prime wrote:Evil_the_Nub wrote:Pontimax 01 wrote:F bomb in ROTF dvd? Where at? I know when she sees Jetfire is a decepticon you can hear her mutter "****" quietly.
It's when Sam dies, she yells "f*cking do something!" It's kind of hard to make out because it was in that muffled in the distance sort of effect.
And I believe an explosion or a tank firing also took place in the back ground.
As for the DotM instance, I'm waiting for the November release, so haven't heard. But I am not a parent, so I won't speak for any, but to me it's not a big deal. At least it was a supporting character this time. Would have been worse if it had been one of the bots. Except maybe Megatron. It would have suited him perfectly.
Biddybot wrote:DOTM was rated PG here in the theatres,
And I think Wheelie said something 'extra'...
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Exactly. It's completely unecessary.SlyTF1 wrote:Even I kinda find it unnecessary. I mean, they fixed it in the theatrical version, what's the point of adding it here, when you know parents are going to be pissed any way?
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:Exactly. It's completely unecessary.SlyTF1 wrote:Even I kinda find it unnecessary. I mean, they fixed it in the theatrical version, what's the point of adding it here, when you know parents are going to be pissed any way?
I mean, even the two curse word inserted into the 1986 G1 movie were utterly pointless to that film, serving no other purpose than to force a PG rating upon it. Take away the two and nothing is lost from that movie.
There was no impact from those words aside from a cheap "wow" factor, and same goes for this one here. The Seven Dirty Words and other such colorful language have no place of necessity in the Transformers.
The belief that swearing is "mature" is a fallacy. It's more mature to choose to take the higher route of not swearing than it is to give in to swearing.SlyTF1 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Exactly. It's completely unecessary.SlyTF1 wrote:Even I kinda find it unnecessary. I mean, they fixed it in the theatrical version, what's the point of adding it here, when you know parents are going to be pissed any way?
I mean, even the two curse word inserted into the 1986 G1 movie were utterly pointless to that film, serving no other purpose than to force a PG rating upon it. Take away the two and nothing is lost from that movie.
There was no impact from those words aside from a cheap "wow" factor, and same goes for this one here. The Seven Dirty Words and other such colorful language have no place of necessity in the Transformers.
Unless it's a more mature...thing. I mean, if there where to be an R rated TF movie in the futire (I wouldn't put it past Hasbro.), and if the story was actually trying to prove a point, then it'd be necessary.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Biddybot wrote:I wonder if the one obvious F-bomb and secondary muddled one were added, presumably to the movie-as-originally-made given that some of you folks did seem to get to see an 'uncensored' version, specifically to GET that PG-13 rating? PG-13 is supposedly the 'best' rating for movies aimed at the tween and teen market, isn't it? No hassles about restricting entry to anybody, but also no perceptions that it's too 'tame' a movie...isn't that the market thinking? Movie sexual content and violence are still kind of subjectively assessed when it comes to ratings here in Canada. The ratings assigned can vary by region, even by province. But cursing, that's much more clearly delineated across the board. Any use of the F-bomb will bump any movie up to PG-13 here. Use it more than (I THINK) twice and you're getting an R. So...perhaps a deliberate decision on the movie-makers' part in order to get the rating they wanted? DOTM certainly didn't warrent a PG-13 in my estimation--and evidently that of our local movies review board too--for its violence alone. WAY too cartoon-like for concern...
The original Transformers movie ran as a PG feature in the theatres here also (dunno about ROTF). And we never did get to see Beast Wars--we got Beasties instead. Blame our even wonkier television ratings system for THAT one!
Henry921 wrote:You can always be counted on to listen to reason, Pryme.
Dead Metal wrote:Have you ever, and i mean ever seen/read/heard something that is completely original and does not copy/homage/pay tribute to something else? Here's a hint: Nope. You never have and you never will.
Biddybot wrote: Any use of the F-bomb will bump any movie up to PG-13 here. Use it more than (I THINK) twice and you're getting an R. So...perhaps a deliberate decision on the movie-makers' part in order to get the rating they wanted? DOTM certainly didn't warrent a PG-13 in my estimation--and evidently that of our local movies review board too--for its violence alone. WAY too cartoon-like for concern...
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
5150 Cruiser wrote:Biddybot wrote: Any use of the F-bomb will bump any movie up to PG-13 here. Use it more than (I THINK) twice and you're getting an R. So...perhaps a deliberate decision on the movie-makers' part in order to get the rating they wanted? DOTM certainly didn't warrent a PG-13 in my estimation--and evidently that of our local movies review board too--for its violence alone. WAY too cartoon-like for concern...
This would be incorrect concidering it had a PG-13 rating without the F-bomb. I don't know what country your from, but in the U.S., it's not the swear word that warrants the rating system, its how its used. Example..
Telling someone to "F*** off!", or "F*** you!", is concidered far worse than say "Wow, this robot is f***ing awesome!" So the use of one "F" word alone will not get a PG-13 rating. The story, tone, and violence, sexual referances, nudity, language all play a parts in how a movie is rated. In DOTM case, the violence, language, and sexual inuitves (sorry, not sure if that's the right word) all what gave it a PG-13 rating. And if i had to pick one that through it over the edge, i'd have to say the action/violence set it off for its PG-13 rating. Not one swear word alone.
As far as the actual use of the word in the DVD, for me its not a big deal, but at the same time, it really wasn't nessasary either. It certinbaly didn't add any humor.
Autobot032 wrote: Actually, this isn't quite correct. You could use the f-word once per film, in PG, in the '80s. Notable examples: Beetlejuice, BIG.
BIG was the game changer. When the boy used it, it made the MPAA crack down. That, along with a few other things made them change their minds.
One use, no matter the connotation behind it, will automatically net you a PG-13.
You may use up to three of them in a PG-13, as long as they're spaced out and without a sexual connotation. The instant it becomes sexual, it's automatically R.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
5150 Cruiser wrote:Autobot032 wrote: Actually, this isn't quite correct. You could use the f-word once per film, in PG, in the '80s. Notable examples: Beetlejuice, BIG.
BIG was the game changer. When the boy used it, it made the MPAA crack down. That, along with a few other things made them change their minds.
One use, no matter the connotation behind it, will automatically net you a PG-13.
You may use up to three of them in a PG-13, as long as they're spaced out and without a sexual connotation. The instant it becomes sexual, it's automatically R.
Looks like you got me on a technicality, because i was thinking of beetle juice when i was typing my past post. Good Eye. But regardless, it wasn't the F-bomb that recieved iDOTM it's PG-13 rating since it wasn't used in the theater version.
BUt it sems that the MPAA comitte can in fact over rule this if they feel it nessasary. BUt it seems they do that more with the transition between PG-13 and R ratings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Pic ... ing_system
Autobot032 wrote:5150 Cruiser wrote:Autobot032 wrote: Actually, this isn't quite correct. You could use the f-word once per film, in PG, in the '80s. Notable examples: Beetlejuice, BIG.
BIG was the game changer. When the boy used it, it made the MPAA crack down. That, along with a few other things made them change their minds.
One use, no matter the connotation behind it, will automatically net you a PG-13.
You may use up to three of them in a PG-13, as long as they're spaced out and without a sexual connotation. The instant it becomes sexual, it's automatically R.
Looks like you got me on a technicality, because i was thinking of beetle juice when i was typing my past post. Good Eye. But regardless, it wasn't the F-bomb that recieved iDOTM it's PG-13 rating since it wasn't used in the theater version.
BUt it sems that the MPAA comitte can in fact over rule this if they feel it nessasary. BUt it seems they do that more with the transition between PG-13 and R ratings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Pic ... ing_system
They certainly can. Which is kinda messed up. I've seen movies that clearly needed a much heavier rating and ones that weren't even close to a PG-13 but got it anyway.
The ratings system needs a massive overhaul, with public input to help them pin down exactly what goes where.
NewFoundStarscreamLuv wrote:me and my friends combine all the time. Sometimes I even combine by myself if no one is around.
Evil_the_Nub wrote: I agree with that, I don't understand how a few words or nudity is considered worse than horrific violence. What were the Indiana Jones movies rated? PG or PG-13, yet they have peoples faces being melted off, heads exploding, hearts getting ripped out, and people being burned alive. I think that's the kind of stuff they should be concerned with, not a few harmless words or body parts.
Shadowman wrote:I will put forth the theory that it was the internet itself trying to punch him in the face.
And that was stupid too.GEEWUN wrote:I don't care if they say f*ck or not. I think it is stupid they would add that to the dvd release, but I don't think its a big deal. Spike said sh*t in the '86 movie.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Evil_the_Nub wrote:Autobot032 wrote:5150 Cruiser wrote:Autobot032 wrote: Actually, this isn't quite correct. You could use the f-word once per film, in PG, in the '80s. Notable examples: Beetlejuice, BIG.
BIG was the game changer. When the boy used it, it made the MPAA crack down. That, along with a few other things made them change their minds.
One use, no matter the connotation behind it, will automatically net you a PG-13.
You may use up to three of them in a PG-13, as long as they're spaced out and without a sexual connotation. The instant it becomes sexual, it's automatically R.
Looks like you got me on a technicality, because i was thinking of beetle juice when i was typing my past post. Good Eye. But regardless, it wasn't the F-bomb that recieved iDOTM it's PG-13 rating since it wasn't used in the theater version.
BUt it sems that the MPAA comitte can in fact over rule this if they feel it nessasary. BUt it seems they do that more with the transition between PG-13 and R ratings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Pic ... ing_system
They certainly can. Which is kinda messed up. I've seen movies that clearly needed a much heavier rating and ones that weren't even close to a PG-13 but got it anyway.
The ratings system needs a massive overhaul, with public input to help them pin down exactly what goes where.
I agree with that, I don't understand how a few words or nudity is considered worse than horrific violence. What were the Indiana Jones movies rated? PG or PG-13, yet they have peoples faces being melted off, heads exploding, hearts getting ripped out, and people being burned alive. I think that's the kind of stuff they should be concerned with, not a few harmless words or body parts.
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