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Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby syphonn » Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:35 am

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Albershide wrote:"According to di Bonaventura, director Michael Bay's use of 3D technology this time around will take the franchise to the next level.

"What you can expect is more comedy than we've ever had before" di Bonaventura revealed.


*Sigh* I can't say I'm surprised though --judging from the first two films this seems like his next logical step. Add 3D, the latest flavor of the day and more of everything else from the last two films.
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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Oct 24, 2010 8:02 am

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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:18 am

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Rodimus Prime wrote:You're comparing WALL E to Transformers? The only thing they have in common is robots in the lead roles. The way WALL E turned out, it was brilliant. It was a movie with barely any dialogue, none by the main characters, IIRC. It was the best PIXAR movie made, with maybe The Incredibles coming close. Yeah, if your expectations were explosions then you might have been disappointed. But the story of WALL E was outstanding, even better than the first Transformers.


I thought it was a stupid story. Its all bull. Robots created by humans have no emotions. They cant do any of that ****. When I see robots I want to see voilence and explosions. If I don't, I feel cheated out of my money. If you can combine a good story with a shitload of explosions, great. But just don't do it with robots. Except if Transformers took place on Cybertron, I think it's possible to have a good story and big explosions, solely because there are no humans to compare them to. Its kind of confusing, the way I think.
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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby SEXFIGHTER » Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:33 am

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A Cybertron story? lets have it. Do an all CGI, straight to DVD, adaptation of War Within, if that sells then do another, Target 2006 or something more recent. DC are doing these direct story adaptations and they're doing them pretty bloody well. Theres a whole untapped source there, Hasbro, take note. It won't hurt the live action movie-verse, quite the opposite.
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Postby SEXFIGHTER » Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:38 am

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SEXFIGHTER wrote:A Cybertron story? lets have it. Do an all CGI, straight to DVD, adaptation of War Within, if that sells then do another, Target 2006 or something more recent. DC are doing these direct story adaptations and they're doing them pretty bloody well. Theres a whole untapped source there, Hasbro, take note. It won't hurt the live action movie-verse, quite the opposite.

I've just realised all these stories are tied up with different comic companies so could be a problem getting the rights to use these stories.
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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:22 pm

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SEXFIGHTER wrote:A Cybertron story? lets have it. Do an all CGI, straight to DVD, adaptation of War Within, if that sells then do another, Target 2006 or something more recent. DC are doing these direct story adaptations and they're doing them pretty bloody well. Theres a whole untapped source there, Hasbro, take note. It won't hurt the live action movie-verse, quite the opposite.


It doesnt have to be straight to DVD. I'd perfer watching it in the theaters. That's part of what made me like the movies. If they where just strait to DVD, I wou;dn't like them nearly as much. Part of the experience for me when I watch the movies is remembering the first time I watched them in theaters.
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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby SEXFIGHTER » Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:59 pm

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SEXFIGHTER wrote:A Cybertron story? lets have it. Do an all CGI, straight to DVD, adaptation of War Within, if that sells then do another, Target 2006 or something more recent. DC are doing these direct story adaptations and they're doing them pretty bloody well. Theres a whole untapped source there, Hasbro, take note. It won't hurt the live action movie-verse, quite the opposite.


It doesnt have to be straight to DVD. I'd perfer watching it in the theaters. That's part of what made me like the movies. If they where just strait to DVD, I wou;dn't like them nearly as much. Part of the experience for me when I watch the movies is remembering the first time I watched them in theaters.

Yes but they wouldn't gamble on taking specific stories fans love and throwing 2 or 3 hundred million at them, and there'd be so many script rewrites in the end it wouldn't be the original. My way you could have 1 or 2 dvds out every 12 months, and Hasbro would recoup the smallish budget with a healthy profit on top. Movies take too long prepping.Hasbro and Paramount have created a whole new continuity anyway so it won't happen. Nolans continuity aint Superman/Batman Apocalypse,but thats great, im gettin spoilt rotten with all these stories and all this creative activity. Give us more to watch, spoil us.
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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby Prankmeister » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:00 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:You're comparing WALL E to Transformers? The only thing they have in common is robots in the lead roles. The way WALL E turned out, it was brilliant. It was a movie with barely any dialogue, none by the main characters, IIRC. It was the best PIXAR movie made, with maybe The Incredibles coming close. Yeah, if your expectations were explosions then you might have been disappointed. But the story of WALL E was outstanding, even better than the first Transformers.


I thought it was a stupid story. Its all bull. Robots created by humans have no emotions. They cant do any of that ****. When I see robots I want to see voilence and explosions. If I don't, I feel cheated out of my money. If you can combine a good story with a shitload of explosions, great. But just don't do it with robots. Except if Transformers took place on Cybertron, I think it's possible to have a good story and big explosions, solely because there are no humans to compare them to. Its kind of confusing, the way I think.


There's a reason Wall-E is a fantasy movie and not meant to be realistic. You might as well argue that toys aren't actually alive, or monsters don't actually exist. Believing that just because it is a 'robot' means that it can't do anything but wage war is pretty convoluted, and limits the creative medium as a whole.
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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:04 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:
SEXFIGHTER wrote:A Cybertron story? lets have it. Do an all CGI, straight to DVD, adaptation of War Within, if that sells then do another, Target 2006 or something more recent. DC are doing these direct story adaptations and they're doing them pretty bloody well. Theres a whole untapped source there, Hasbro, take note. It won't hurt the live action movie-verse, quite the opposite.


It doesnt have to be straight to DVD. I'd perfer watching it in the theaters. That's part of what made me like the movies. If they where just strait to DVD, I wou;dn't like them nearly as much. Part of the experience for me when I watch the movies is remembering the first time I watched them in theaters.

Yes but they wouldn't gamble on taking specific stories fans love and throwing 2 or 3 hundred million at them, and there'd be so many script rewrites in the end it wouldn't be the original. My way you could have 1 or 2 dvds out every 12 months, and Hasbro would recoup the smallish budget with a healthy profit on top. Movies take too long prepping.Hasbro and Paramount have created a whole new continuity anyway so it won't happen. Nolans continuity aint Superman/Batman Apocalypse,but thats great, im gettin spoilt rotten with all these stories and all this creative activity. Give us more to watch, spoil us.


I didnt mean like a whole series. I just meant like a trilogy of movies set on Cybertron.
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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby Rodimus Prime » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:07 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:You're comparing WALL E to Transformers? The only thing they have in common is robots in the lead roles. The way WALL E turned out, it was brilliant. It was a movie with barely any dialogue, none by the main characters, IIRC. It was the best PIXAR movie made, with maybe The Incredibles coming close. Yeah, if your expectations were explosions then you might have been disappointed. But the story of WALL E was outstanding, even better than the first Transformers.


I thought it was a stupid story. Its all bull.


And giant shape-shifting robots isn't? It's called having an imagination.

When I see robots I want to see violence and explosions. If I don't, I feel cheated out of my money. If you can combine a good story with a shitload of explosions, great. But just don't do it with robots.


OK, to each his own. If that's your taste in sentient robot movies, that's fine. I think WALL E was touching and at the same time had a good and sensible story, rooted in reality. What will happen to this planet, anyways. I am not a bleeding heart save-the-planet liberal but I think that's the way this place is headed.
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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby Burn » Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:41 pm

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Hey guys, guess what?

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He doesn't like Wall-E for his own reasons. Why are you trying to convince him he's wrong? If he doesn't like it he doesn't like it. Simple as that.
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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:48 am

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I wasn't trying to convince him of being wrong, I just stated an opinion of opposite view, and backed it up. He wasn't offended, was he?
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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby OptiMagnus » Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:09 pm

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Sky-Quake wrote:can't believe that Megatron's a freaking truck should have been a new character

Well, we've already confirmed a handful of new characters, plus there are other spotted vehicles that we have yet to find out if they are TFs or not. Even still, there will be other characters who are all CGI that we may not even know about.
And we haven't even confirmed the Mack truck to be Megatron, so don't jump to conclusions from what people theorize about. It would be neat if the truck was a new character, but we will still have a bunch of new guys coming in. Examples: The Wreckers, Shockwave, the Mercedes-Benz S-class bot, the Ferrari 458 Italia bot, the Dodge Charger (likely), the Space Shuttle Discovery (likely), Silverbolt, the two different fire trucks, and likely a giant all-CGI Decepticon. What more do you need?
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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby MidAge » Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:21 pm

You can expect bigger action sequences than we've ever had before

That make me excited.~haha
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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby SEXFIGHTER » Fri Oct 29, 2010 12:02 pm

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God Thundercracker wrote:My idea of comedy would be for Bumblebee to transform...with Bimbo!Carly inside him.

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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby Dagon » Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:36 am

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Evil_the_Nub wrote:It's been 16 months since RotF came out and some of you still can't stop trashing it. I've got a news flash for you guys, WE'VE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE! Let it go already.

I'll happily shut my mouth and eat my own excrement if 3 delivers..and it actually MIGHT. Shockwave looks encouraging, its the comedic element that has us all worried.



That's a pretty serious statement....I was just sort of browsing this thread and aside from there being 4 pages of yelling before the news was even officially credited was funny to me, and then I saw this....now I'm feeling odd...

Anyhow, if no one's supposed to still dislike ROTF after 16 months then logic follows we shouldn't speak well of it or enjoy it anymore after 16 months either. But since that of course is 'crazy talk'...

I just bought ROTF on DVD for $10 so as to have it with my TF video collection. I know, right: "Dagon, you didn't like the movie, so why would you buy it? Must be because you're a hater and a Geewuner!!" Well, relax everyone, because it wasn't your money, so I didn't feel bad making my own, grown up decision. Anyway, the movie really is still that bad, and the 'comedy' is the main reason for that as far as I'm concerned. It just isn't funny. If it was funny, ROTF would really be a decent movie. I could ignore Shia's stutter acting and all the inconsistencies and everything if only the comedy was funny, which, 16 months old or not, is the purpose of comedy.
I think that's really what it's come down to for me with ROTF, it's not funny but you know that it just thinks it is. The whole "there isn't a tighter shirt" thing, I missed that the first time, but that was funny, even though if ROTF was a person, it would be those guys bro fisting and looking for tighter shirts and keg parties. The mom is painfully unfunny. Leo is painfully unfunny. The dog humping? There wasn't a single reason for that, unless there was some easter egg thing I missed. Devastator balls? No big deal really, but in the larger picture of being not funny, it's just stupid.
So, if more comedy is coming down the line, precedent shows it won't be funny. I know I'm just a hater because randum/edgy 'comedy' isn't my thing, and I'm a fool for thinking anyone cares about the fandom when there's the endless mass of people who don't care about a franchise out there to appeal to, but more comedy makes me more worry.
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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:49 pm

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I admit the comedy was pretty lame, but saying the whole movie was bad because of it is blowing it out of proportion. Bay already said there wouldn't be any "dorky comedy" in DotM. He listened to what people complained about in the first one so he'll probably do the same about RotF. And there's no need to act like some oppressed minority, nobody is going to ban you for thinking differently.
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Re: Lorenzo di Bonaventura: More action and more comedy in TF:DOTM.

Postby Dagon » Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:34 pm

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Evil_the_Nub wrote:I admit the comedy was pretty lame, but saying the whole movie was bad because of it is blowing it out of proportion. Bay already said there wouldn't be any "dorky comedy" in DotM. He listened to what people complained about in the first one so he'll probably do the same about RotF. And there's no need to act like some oppressed minority, nobody is going to ban you for thinking differently.


I know. And I'm also cognizant of my having used that exact phrase. It's just that everyone feels the need to "us against the world" when it comes to these movies. Like they make $400 million but everyone hates them and constantly complains about them.....I'm not sure how $400 million makes for the existence of like, everyone being aligned against ROTF fans....not even on Seibertron are fans of the movies in the minority. But everyone has a slant and an agenda, and that's why there's never any resolution or peaceable consensus. But, whatever makes people happy really. I don't ever recall blowing things out of proportion and talking about how these movies ruined my life, but since I'm not as big a fan as some people are, it's like I'm a blight on the fandom. All in all, I still maintain the belief that if we were all sitting down in a room and talking the way human beings were designed to converse and not interpret text without any other indicators, most of the ROTF arguements never would have happened.

As for blowing the bad comedy out of proportion, I respectfully disagree. The 'comedy' is really, really lame, and for me, and I was only speaking for myself personally in my previous post as well, it is a great inhibitor of movie enjoyment. People may find that unfair or whatever, but it's the way I feel about the movie. The movie wasn't intended to be a comedy, and the bad humor it does have is so forced into it, and it isn't funny, which is sort of the purpose that comedy is supposed to serve.
"Dorky comedy" is a subjective thing, and so if Bay or the writers or anyone thinks the comedy of ROTF was not dorky, then another movie filled with those same jokes indeed will not have dorky comedy.
I really do find the comedy that bad, and freedom being the right of all sentient beings (always cool when you can work in some source material :D ) I don't really feel that I'm wrong somehow for having that opinion. I never called anyone names or anything for liking it, so I don't think I'm being terribly unfair.

Honestly I think one of the problems is that both sides of the issue are tired of the movies being a divisive point and are both hoping to somehow deliver the stroke that puts them on top of the arguement. It's been pretty clear that there's only room somehow for air tight reasons as to justify why one likes or dislikes the movies, like it really is an out-cooling contest, and neither side accepts the others'. So, people who just kind of didn't like it, like me, get branded as fanatical haters just as fans get branded as fanatics as well. The debate on both sides is always "You're entitled to you own opinion.....but whatever opinion you've given is not acceptible to me." I don't know, I didn't love the movie, but I saw it in the theatre and I bought it, so I''ve supported it twice, and I'm part of the $400 million theatrical run and the however much its made on rentals and sales. That doesn't make me special, but it should enable me to talk about the movie.
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