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WreckerJack wrote:I think it could have been better. Some of the action was really good but I wish they would take out some of the awkward anime grunts and close ups.
I wonder if Victorion will get her arm back at some point. I don't even remember how she lost it at this point.
william-james88 wrote:How tall is this **** grass!!!?!?!???!!
Bronzewolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:How tall is this **** grass!!!?!?!???!!
Qwan wrote:
In particular, how come Devastator can get a hole blown through his chest and be basically fine, but when the same happened to Optimus he was dead before he hit the ground? Consistency is not this show's strong suit, obviously, but like... of course the moment they decide to show characters actually getting physically damaged, it raises even more continuity questions. This show just can't catch a break.
Flashwave wrote:Qwan wrote:
In particular, how come Devastator can get a hole blown through his chest and be basically fine, but when the same happened to Optimus he was dead before he hit the ground? Consistency is not this show's strong suit, obviously, but like... of course the moment they decide to show characters actually getting physically damaged, it raises even more continuity questions. This show just can't catch a break.
Not to defend this show or anything, cause it’s... not good, but You’re talking about a Combiner vs. a singular bot. Optimus Prime catches a blast through his chest and its fatal, because for lack of a better word, he only has one chest. Devastator’s “chest” is made up of 2 separate bots, and there are 6 sparks with six “brains” in there as well. Even if someone were to greviously wound Long Haul himself, there’s still a bunch of Constructicons in there, plenty of processing power for the whole, so long as Long Haul isn’t bleeding like a sieve or the damage is so great it hampers leg movement. Does that make sense?
Admittedly, a single shot killedCOmputron as well, and that makes Devy’s surviving less obvious, although one *might* argue that because of the way they combine, Computron’s one bot torso vs. Devy’s 2 bot torso there’s fewer redundancies.
Not to defend this show for its choices, but why should alien/Cybertronian flora look exactly like Earthen flora? Why couldn't Cybertron's equivalent of trees look to our Earthen eyes instead like giant tubes of grass? These are alien plants, after all. There are no rules saying that all plant life in the universe has to have the same biological characteristics that make Earth's plants look the way they look.william-james88 wrote:Bronzewolf wrote:william-james88 wrote:How tall is this **** grass!!!?!?!???!!
Haha, this grass is at least what, like 100 times that tall.
Which is nonsense and is the worst setting they could have for giant robots. Its dumb, plain and simple. Also, its lazy. They could have had trees or detailed vegetation but they couldnt afford that, so long strands of tall grass it is.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
o.supreme wrote:I'd pay real money if someone dubbed this Audio over Volcanicus *searching* for the Autobots
ZeroWolf wrote:I can live with them not acting like the g1 versions as that would be boring but this...this doesn't work but I get the feeling that hasbro probably already signed off on what's to follow and so, has lost any sense of concern that this series does well. I mean will they really contract these people to do a war for cybertron series for next year? I know hasbro is more pumped for the cyberverse show as that's geared towards the traditional market but I think there's space for three TF shows if done right. Or they could do what DC have been doing for years and do direct to DVD features based around different stories pulled from across the different universes. They could call it Transformers Multiverse and have stories based on classic g1 strips, updates of classic g1 episodes with much better animation and scripting. These scope there but alas, I think money issues would sink it...hence why we've got these in the first place
ZeroWolf wrote:Nah, the only place they should act like their g1 selves is in the g1 toon, that's all. I mean they had a good thing going in Titan Returns with Megatron being a good sarcastic shade of grey, but here they wasted it. How many eps is this supposed to be again?
Right now I'm betting that Primal will show up, merge his spark that of Optimus Prime (achieving a nod to the beast wars show) to achieve hos optimal Optimus form before laying waste to the bad guys with a macguffin of some sort.
ZeroWolf wrote:I can live with them not acting like the g1 versions as that would be boring
ZeroWolf wrote:Or they could do what DC have been doing for years and do direct to DVD features based around different stories pulled from across the different universes.
Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Sabrblade wrote:I mean, it's not like the G1 cartoon didn't already get ninety-doggone-eight episodes to begin with.
Plus a full bonus season of "best of" episodes.
Plus THREE additional full-length sequel series from Japan.
Man, some G1 cartoon fans really have no idea how spoiled they've been by the stuff that's already been made for them.
Sabrblade wrote:I mean, it's not like the G1 cartoon didn't already get ninety-doggone-eight episodes to begin with.
Sabrblade wrote:Plus a full bonus season of "best of" episodes.
Sabrblade wrote:Plus THREE additional full-length sequel series from Japan.
Sabrblade wrote:Man, some G1 cartoon fans really have no idea how spoiled they've been by the stuff that's already been made for them.
o.supreme wrote:I'll go back and make the same comparison I've made Ad nauseam. In japan the Mobile Suit Gundam Frnchise had a tight singular continuity spanning several series and movies until 1994. Mobile Fighter G Gundam was the first departure from this, and established a multi-universal Gundam continuity. From this point on, several new continuities were established, but the original "UC" (Universal Century) timeline is still returned to every so often, and those series/films are highly acclaimed.
o.supreme wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I mean, it's not like the G1 cartoon didn't already get ninety-doggone-eight episodes to begin with.
But as you so famously point out, Rescue Bots got 104
Sabrblade wrote:Plus a full bonus season of "best of" episodes.
All re-runs, so those don't count, you might as well throw in G2 if that's the point you are trying to makeSabrblade wrote:Plus THREE additional full-length sequel series from Japan.
You know of anyone here, how much I really enjoy the Japanese shows. For *ME*, I truly do see them as seasons 5-7 of the original show, especially since I've known about them all along, it wasn't something I just discovered much later (Thanks to a Japanese exchange student in my class in 1988). But most fans don't see it that way, they simply see them as this quirky little *other* thing that mostly gets ignored.Sabrblade wrote:Man, some G1 cartoon fans really have no idea how spoiled they've been by the stuff that's already been made for them.
I'll go back and make the same comparison I've made Ad nauseam. In japan the Mobile Suit Gundam Frnchise had a tight singular continuity spanning several series and movies until 1994. Mobile Fighter G Gundam was the first departure from this, and established a multi-universal Gundam continuity. From this point on, several new continuities were established, but the original "UC" (Universal Century) timeline is still returned to every so often, and those series/films are highly acclaimed.
With Transformers its a bit different, but if you include BW & BM (and BWII/Neo in Japan), which were later folded to be in each countries respective original continuity, things all existed in the same universe until 2000. Car Robots (RiD), was the first departure from this, and established, in TF animation, a multi-universal Transformers continuity. Now since then, many other continuities have been established, but not ONCE has an attempt been made to return to the original series timeline, which was left open ended (Like the UC Gundam timeline). Most other TF continuities have had full resolution, which is why the desire to return to the original burns so strong in me. Not IDW, nor Machinima's cut-rate series even come close. The closest things we've had was the Devastation Video game (which was brilliant). I'm not saying we need to return to it always and forever, but just something, anything. It works well in Japan. Kids who weren't even alive 30-40 years ago don't lament when a new chapter in the UC series is added. Nor should anyone frown on a return to the original TF continuity. There will always be plenty of new adventures (The Movie Franchise, comics, Cyberverse etc...) to captivate and reel in new interest. All I'm saying is, throw us life-long fans an appreciative (in the form of animation specifically, not talking toys or comics) bone somewhere.
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