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Vicalliose wrote:Seriously though. This is like class warfare or something. The people who spent more money to get Hercules think they have the right to laugh and look down upon those who got Giant instead and those who've gotten Giant say that the people who bought Hercules are stupid with money. Look, both sets have their pros and cons, I'm getting the Giant admittedly because it's cheaper (which is a pro) but also because to me the individual robots are just plain better, heck for some people (myself included) the large size of Hercules would even be considered a con. I don't really think it's right to say either is inferior, regardless of price or size, because it's ultimately not only about price but also peoples personal tastes.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:Sorry folks, I'm a Giant hater.
If you like Giant, good for you. I admittedly like the look more that I'm seeing some nice color shots of the green, but I still think TFC won this one.
1. Integration - Hercules is perfectly integrated. Giant is much messier with the extra parts and all. I hate those little trailer forearms.
2. Elegance - an extension of Integration, Hercules is much smoother in his combined form. And he doesn't have hook genitalia either... or a club foot.
3. Proportions - I don't get people who say Giant is better proportioned. Have you seen his upper arms? They're way off scale. And that head is so small...
So I'm a Herc guy. And I don't dis Giant because I'm jealous, or I'm in too deep with Herc, as some Giant lovers have implied of those in the Herc camp. I just prefer the Hercules' aesthetic, and more easily overlook Hercules' flaws than I do Giant's. Those of you who are looking forward to Giant, I wish you well. Enjoy your toy. I'm sticking with the real giant.
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Nothing Hasbro does surprises me anymore, their ineptitude is legendary!
Burn wrote:Shadowstream wrote:It's quite clear they dun dropped the ball, but did they have to drop it so far and so hard?
It's FunPub. It's their specialty.
Good point!MINDVVIPE wrote:I think if everyone, and I mean everyone agreed one was better than the other, the whole topic would be that much more boring.
I prefer Herc's arms admittedly. But it's a detriment to the individual figures. This also makes Giant more G1 acurrate for those who care.megatronus wrote:1. Integration - Hercules is perfectly integrated. Giant is much messier with the extra parts and all. I hate those little trailer forearms.
I don't really get why hook's hook is down there, I don't think it needs to be or anything. As for the club foot... OK thanks for making me look that up, I nearly lost my dinner, but I really have no idea what you're talking about.megatronus wrote:2. Elegance - an extension of Integration, Hercules is much smoother in his combined form. And he doesn't have hook genitalia either... or a club foot.
Herc fits the bill better with that left foot of his, that's one of the big things that bugs me about Herc in fact.Without treatment, persons afflicted often appear to walk on their ankles, or on the sides of their feet.
Idunno that it's "better" proportioned. It just looks more badass and beefy. More personal aesthetics type-of-thing.megatronus wrote:3. Proportions - I don't get people who say Giant is better proportioned. Have you seen his upper arms? They're way off scale. And that head is so small...
starscream1974 wrote:Holy sweet Cybertron!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would much rather have this in my display case than the yellow version. A MUST HAVE...now to know the packaged price. It would be nice to receive a price break. This will be next to Fansproject Bruticus!!!!!!!!!!!!! I would much rather have this version than Hercules.....and for all you haters!!!!! If you think it's to busy of a figure....forget about it....its the best Devy representation hands down!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rated X wrote:Now for the things that suck about Giant:
1. Hook and Scavengers ugly yellow heads.
2. Shovel and crane parts on the arms instead of their backs is not G1 accurate.
3. Lame “arm becomes trailer” feature.
4. Annoying “Maketoys” decals applied in the package.
5. Long Haul has “wings”.
6. Another opportunity to give us a purple barrel wasted.
7. Devy head clearly visible in Hook’s vehicle mode. WTF ???
Yadda, yadda, personal preference, etc.Rated X wrote:Hercules is just plain better. I would eventually like to get Giant, but only for my G2 shelf. Honestly In my opinion Giant only has 3 things going for him:
Admitted flaw.Rated X wrote:Now for the things that suck about Giant:
1. Hook and Scavengers ugly yellow heads.
Hypocritical strike 1. Pardon the error.Rated X wrote:2. Shovel and crane parts on the arms instead of their backs is not G1 accurate.
Hypocritical strike 1.Rated X wrote:3. Lame “arm becomes trailer” feature.
Just looks like a construction company logo to me. Thus making for a better disguise.Rated X wrote:4. Annoying “Maketoys” decals applied in the package.
Personal preference. They can probably sit more flush though.Rated X wrote:5. Long Haul has “wings”.
ENOUGH WITH THE DAMN PURPLE BARRELS!!!Rated X wrote:6. Another opportunity to give us a purple barrel wasted.
I cannot see the face, ergo as a passerby I'd have no idea what it is. Besides, the Giant figures look more like real vehicles overall.Rated X wrote:7. Devy head clearly visible in Hook’s vehicle mode. WTF ???
Personal preference, but would nice to have.Rated X wrote:And the upcoming TFC and Crazy Devy upgrades tackle all the flaws:
1. Anime accurate Devy head.
Hypocritical strike 2.Rated X wrote:2. Treads in proper place in combiner mode.
A vast improvement over that mess they give you.Rated X wrote:3. G1 accurate gun.
OH MY GOD!!!Rated X wrote:4. The legendary purple barrel.
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
Vicalliose wrote:Yadda, yadda, personal preference, etc.Rated X wrote:Hercules is just plain better. I would eventually like to get Giant, but only for my G2 shelf. Honestly In my opinion Giant only has 3 things going for him:Admitted flaw.Rated X wrote:Now for the things that suck about Giant:
1. Hook and Scavengers ugly yellow heads.Hypocritical strike 1.Rated X wrote:2. Shovel and crane parts on the arms instead of their backs is not G1 accurate.Hypocritical strike 2.Rated X wrote:3. Lame “arm becomes trailer” feature.Just looks like a construction company logo to me. Thus making for a better disguise.Rated X wrote:4. Annoying “Maketoys” decals applied in the package.Personal preference. They can probably sit more flush though.Rated X wrote:5. Long Haul has “wings”.ENOUGH WITH THE DAMN PURPLE BARRELS!!!Rated X wrote:6. Another opportunity to give us a purple barrel wasted.I cannot see the face, ergo as a passerby I'd have no idea what it is. Besides, the Giant figures look more like real vehicles overall.Rated X wrote:7. Devy head clearly visible in Hook’s vehicle mode. WTF ???Personal preference, but would nice to have.Rated X wrote:And the upcoming TFC and Crazy Devy upgrades tackle all the flaws:
1. Anime accurate Devy head.Hypocritical strike 3.Rated X wrote:2. Treads in proper place in combiner mode.A vast improvement over that mess they give you.Rated X wrote:3. G1 accurate gun.OH MY GOD!!!Rated X wrote:4. The legendary purple barrel.
MINDVVIPE wrote:You.. could always paint the barrel purple... I'm sure it'd look wierder with it purple though, and destroy the visual balance of the figure.
Rated X wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote:You.. could always paint the barrel purple... I'm sure it'd look wierder with it purple though, and destroy the visual balance of the figure.
Sounds like a job for Crazydevy...
Hmmn, that was a bit of an error on my part when typing the previous post. I'm sorry. Still those parts have to be removed and placed back on their bodies when converting to robot mode yes?Rated X wrote:Not exactly sure what’s so hypocritical about admitting the truth.
1. G1 versions have the crane and shovels on the backs, not the arms. That is FACT not fiction.
Well yes it's lame combiner kibble and gives us G1 accurate arms. But then you say it's good when TFC gives you an upgrade set which does the exact same thing? It's G1 accurate and if you like G1 accuracy but hate the lame kibble then isn't that a contradiction? Are you really just saying you hate the fact that they put wheels on them to pretend they're generators?Rated X wrote:2. The trailer becomes arm feature is lame in my opinion. It is just a pointless excuse to try to justify not throwing them in your parts box when not displaying Devy mode. While my opinion that it’s lame might just be an opinion, you can’t deny the FACTS.
3. The treads are in the proper G1 accurate place on Giant. Once again that is a FACT. The unmodified Hercules “treads to forearms” might be innovative, but not G1 accurate. And even though I was giving Giant points for this, I get a hypocritical strike for stating a FACT ???
Uh, they're paint apps not stickers.Rated X wrote:As far as the Maketoy stickers, it would be nice if they left them unapplied. This would give you the option of leaving it plain or adding on the inevitable Reprolabels sets while keeping the originals mint.
For every person who finds the disjointed coloration that is that damned purple barrel to be your #1 complaint, please list your names here, your all going on "The List".Rated X wrote:And the purple Barrel just looks cool. That’s probably why the animated cartoon artists rolled with it throughout the cartoon series. It’s like Maketoys didn’t even bother to go on the forums and read peoples #1 complaint about Hercules. Not smart when theyre trying to go head on with TFC.
Vicalliose wrote:For every person who finds the disjointed coloration that is that damned purple barrel to be your #1 complaint, please list your names here, your all going on "The List".
Cobotron wrote:Hey! You seemed to have attracted a wild Megatronus. They're hard to find, but boy are they fun when you catch one!
megatronus wrote:Vicalliose wrote:For every person who finds the disjointed coloration that is that damned purple barrel to be your #1 complaint, please list your names here, your all going on "The List".
Super LOL!
MINDVVIPE wrote:Rated X wrote:MINDVVIPE wrote:You.. could always paint the barrel purple... I'm sure it'd look wierder with it purple though, and destroy the visual balance of the figure.
Sounds like a job for Crazydevy...
With all the crazy integrated guns that it breaks into? Probably cost as much as a whole new figure with a 100+ price tag
megatronus wrote:Vicalliose wrote:For every person who finds the disjointed coloration that is that damned purple barrel to be your #1 complaint, please list your names here, your all going on "The List".
Super LOL!
Vicalliose wrote:Hmmn, that was a bit of an error on my part when typing the previous post. I'm sorry. Still those parts have to be removed and placed back on their bodies when converting to robot mode yes?Rated X wrote:Not exactly sure what’s so hypocritical about admitting the truth.
1. G1 versions have the crane and shovels on the backs, not the arms. That is FACT not fiction.Well yes it's lame combiner kibble and gives us G1 accurate arms. But then you say it's good when TFC gives you an upgrade set which does the exact same thing? It's G1 accurate and if you like G1 accuracy but hate the lame kibble then isn't that a contradiction? Are you really just saying you hate the fact that they put wheels on them to pretend they're generators?Rated X wrote:2. The trailer becomes arm feature is lame in my opinion. It is just a pointless excuse to try to justify not throwing them in your parts box when not displaying Devy mode. While my opinion that it’s lame might just be an opinion, you can’t deny the FACTS.
3. The treads are in the proper G1 accurate place on Giant. Once again that is a FACT. The unmodified Hercules “treads to forearms” might be innovative, but not G1 accurate. And even though I was giving Giant points for this, I get a hypocritical strike for stating a FACT ???Uh, they're paint apps not stickers.Rated X wrote:As far as the Maketoy stickers, it would be nice if they left them unapplied. This would give you the option of leaving it plain or adding on the inevitable Reprolabels sets while keeping the originals mint.For every person who finds the disjointed coloration that is that damned purple barrel to be your #1 complaint, please list your names here, your all going on "The List".Rated X wrote:And the purple Barrel just looks cool. That’s probably why the animated cartoon artists rolled with it throughout the cartoon series. It’s like Maketoys didn’t even bother to go on the forums and read peoples #1 complaint about Hercules. Not smart when theyre trying to go head on with TFC.
I was actually referring to Herc's figures. From what I'd gathered they need to be removed when transforming.Rated X wrote:To my knowledge you cannot take the crane or shovel off their arms and put them on their backs. (Maketoy versions) Theyre permantaly attached. But I cant be 100% sure. I dont own them. I own Hercules which you can put them on either place for preference.
Well, they can simply go in the parts box either way...Rated X wrote:I didnt need the trailers. I was happy putting the G1 forearms in my parts box. I prefer less gimmicks. On the other hand The new TFC forearms upgrade doesnt become anything else to my knowledge. Theyre sinply add on parts for Devy mode. No gimmicks for alt mode that add unessecary pegs or holes to the alt modes. And TFC made the treads fix in response to fan feedback.
Breaks up Mixmaster's alt mode pretty well, but in combined form the lack of purple on the other leg is just weird to me, maybe a purple stripe or two would work better. Either way the complaint is rather petty.Rated X wrote:Which leads me to the purple barrel...
Can you honestly say this color combination doesnt look better than all green ???
My "s**t list" is kinda long, I'm just starting a "barrel list" for this one.Rated X wrote:Put me at the top of your "s**t list". I consider it a badge of honor.
craggy wrote:LiKwid wrote:Hercules points and laughes..... Maketoys version INFERIOR!!!!!!!
please, man, for all our sakes, grow up.
Counterpunch wrote:FP sure does provide some F'd up head.
Jeep! wrote:Why do I imagine Dead Metal sounding exactly like Arnie?
Intah-wib-buls?
Blurrz wrote:10/10
Leave it to Dead Metal to have the word 'Pronz' in his signature.
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