The Energon Pub

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Sun May 08, 2016 3:31 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Actually I meant the tension in the first avengers movie I never knew hawkeye was married till age of ultron

Nobody knew he was married until Age of Ultron!

. And I have to agree, I never thought there was much tension between them in the first.

And if Burn was indeed referring to the romance between Sharon and Cap, then yes, it was in the comics. But it wasn't so awkward. Of course, it's hard to gauge the chemistry of characters whose emotions are conveyed through art rather than acting, but I just feel like Emily VanCamp was just...not that into Steve.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun May 08, 2016 4:44 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:I agree with all that but the last part. Enterprise needs needs to be shoved into a little box labeled alternative universe and pushed into a corner. There's plenty of other good borg eps out there without resorting to that.

Anyways...

why?
it fits fine with the main universe

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun May 08, 2016 4:46 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:
sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:there's no contradiction, there are different levels of "awareness", and remembering things after does not indicate the level of awareness at the time of the crime
Is this your opinion, or do you have medical data to back up your statement?

there are plenty of physiological studies done involving the levels of awareness and "auto pilot" like behaviors, many such studies involve sleep walkers

thats where my information comes from, study and treatment for my sleepwalking and other sleep actions

No, I don't believe I ever saw that.

if you want i can point you to said episodes

Rodimus Prime wrote:Is everyone OK with him getting it on with his dead girlfriend's niece? OK, they just kissed, but still. Peggy hadn't been cold for more than about 2 days!

Peggy was never his gf, yes he loved her but they never got together

but i do feel they did not develop this new budding relationship well

Rodimus Prime wrote:Marvel has yet to have an outright failure, though I must admit the Hulk movies are the weakest of the franchise so far, box office-wise, anyway.

well to be fair, the first Hulk film is not part of the "marvel franchise" aka the marvel cinematic universe

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Sun May 08, 2016 5:02 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I agree with all that but the last part. Enterprise needs needs to be shoved into a little box labeled alternative universe and pushed into a corner. There's plenty of other good borg eps out there without resorting to that.

Anyways...

why?
it fits fine with the main universe

It's not that it doesn't fit, it's that it's a crap series.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sun May 08, 2016 5:05 pm

Enough with the Star Trek talk, we have a thread for that.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:
Burn wrote:But theirs is a long-time romance from the comics ...

Whose romance are you referring to?

If you'd followed the conversation (like ... the last post before mine, you know ... YOURS!) you'd know.

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Sun May 08, 2016 8:59 pm

Burn wrote:Enough with the Star Trek talk, we have a thread for that.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:
Burn wrote:But theirs is a long-time romance from the comics ...

Whose romance are you referring to?

If you'd followed the conversation (like ... the last post before mine, you know ... YOURS!) you'd know.

Well, if I recall correctly, the conversation involved three distinct romances: Cap/Sharon, Cap/Widow, and Banner/Widdow. So, you know, a little specificity would be nice.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Sun May 08, 2016 9:44 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote:Is everyone OK with him getting it on with his dead girlfriend's niece? OK, they just kissed, but still. Peggy hadn't been cold for more than about 2 days!

This is probably why we should all just ignore Nem Max's posts from now on, they just confuse the discussion. :-P

That's the relationship I was referring to.

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Sun May 08, 2016 10:11 pm

Burn wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:Is everyone OK with him getting it on with his dead girlfriend's niece? OK, they just kissed, but still. Peggy hadn't been cold for more than about 2 days!

This is probably why we should all just ignore Nem Max's posts from now on, they just confuse the discussion.

But what about Sparta?

News Credits: 12 · by **Overcracker** » Wed May 11, 2016 6:59 pm

Rodimus Prime wrote: Is everyone OK with him getting it on with his dead girlfriend's niece? OK, they just kissed, but still. Peggy hadn't been cold for more than about 2 days!

As has been said Cap and Peggy never really did get together, the romance was beginning in the first Captain america, but then he got frozen and she moved on. I believe its even suggested in the Agent Carter TV show that she will have a potential new love interest there.

As far as Agent 13 and Steve, it is implied that their relationship had been ongoing since Winter Soldier off screen. Its only in Civil war that they finally kiss.

Its been what 18 months since Ultron, and a bit more since Winter Soldier? Plenty of time for Steve to make piece with Peggy, and get to know Sharon.

With that said, yes, there is very little chemistry in that scene between Steve and Sharon. But they may still flesh it out later.

As far as the Black Widow goes, she had tension with Hawkeye in the first Avengers movie, but it was always established they were just very good friends. And with everything she reveals to Banner in Age of Ultron, I thinks its clear she wants a relationship with him, and is only a good friend to Steve.

Not sure what this might mean for Betty Ross though.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Wed May 11, 2016 8:46 pm

Overcracker wrote:Not sure what this might mean for Betty Ross though.

when we first meet the Betty of this universe shes already hooked up with Doc Leonard Samson

so im sure shes moved on again

News Credits: 7 · by **Roadbuster** » Fri May 20, 2016 3:20 pm

Thor Ragnarok nets Karl Urban and gets some Goldblum.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/374765-thor-ragnarok-cast-confirmed-to-include-jeff-goldblum-karl-urban-and-more#/slide/1

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Fri May 20, 2016 4:11 pm

Karl Urban as Skurge the Executioner? Awesome. Jeff Goldblum as The Effing Grandmaster? Double Awesome!!!

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Fri May 20, 2016 4:52 pm

Thor: Ragnarok is looking like it's going to be a blast, especially with cate blanchet as hela, hopefully bringing some of her scary side when she did galadriel.

News Credits: 19 · by **Stuartmaximus** » Sat May 21, 2016 11:42 pm

Went to see X Men Apocalypse yesterday, aye it was a good film

the only nitpicks I have are that Apocalypse only seemed to be used as this sort of enhancement device for the other recruited members powers.....now whether he played out that way in the comics I dunno? as I don't read the comics

It just felt a bit one dimensional.....that's all, the other nitpick is Wolverine....as they could've at least gave Hugh some dialogue & of course I was half expecting him to turn up at the end to help fight Apocalypse, but unfortunately it was a no show, other than that it was a good enough film....not great, and certainly not as good as Days Of Future Past

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun May 22, 2016 8:15 am

Stuartmaximus wrote:Went to see X Men Apocalypse yesterday, aye it was a good film

the only nitpicks I have are that Apocalypse only seemed to be used as this sort of enhancement device for the other recruited members powers.....now whether he played out that way in the comics I dunno? as I don't read the comics It just felt a bit one dimensional.....that's all, the other nitpick is Wolverine....as they could've at least gave Hugh some dialogue & of course I was half expecting him to turn up at the end to help fight Apocalypse, but unfortunately it was a no show, other than that it was a good enough film....not great, and certainly not as good as Days Of Future Past

No he wasn't like that in the comics or the 90s show or even the 00s X Men evolution series.

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun May 22, 2016 1:31 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:Went to see X Men Apocalypse yesterday, aye it was a good film

the only nitpicks I have are that Apocalypse only seemed to be used as this sort of enhancement device for the other recruited members powers.....now whether he played out that way in the comics I dunno? as I don't read the comics It just felt a bit one dimensional.....that's all, the other nitpick is Wolverine....as they could've at least gave Hugh some dialogue & of course I was half expecting him to turn up at the end to help fight Apocalypse, but unfortunately it was a no show, other than that it was a good enough film....not great, and certainly not as good as Days Of Future Past

No he wasn't like that in the comics or the 90s show or even the 00s X Men evolution series.

actually he was "sort of" like that in the comics and the 90s show and evolution as well

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Sun May 22, 2016 2:12 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
Stuartmaximus wrote:Went to see X Men Apocalypse yesterday, aye it was a good film

the only nitpicks I have are that Apocalypse only seemed to be used as this sort of enhancement device for the other recruited members powers.....now whether he played out that way in the comics I dunno? as I don't read the comics It just felt a bit one dimensional.....that's all, the other nitpick is Wolverine....as they could've at least gave Hugh some dialogue & of course I was half expecting him to turn up at the end to help fight Apocalypse, but unfortunately it was a no show, other than that it was a good enough film....not great, and certainly not as good as Days Of Future Past

No he wasn't like that in the comics or the 90s show or even the 00s X Men evolution series.

actually he was "sort of" like that in the comics and the 90s show and evolution as well

I don't remember him really enhancing anyone's powers in the 90s show.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Sun May 22, 2016 2:14 pm

Wait are you on about when he experimented on his followers to create his horsemen on muir island in the 90s?

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun May 22, 2016 3:02 pm

Nemesis Maximo wrote:I don't remember him really enhancing anyone's powers in the 90s show.

he turned Angel into Death/Archangel
Fabian Cortez "the 5th horseman" was given the ability to "alter" the mutations in others

Autumn Rolfson was made into "Famine"
Plague, a morlok was made into "Pestilence"
Abraham Kieros was made into "War"

we also saw other horsemen from the past

News Credits: 1 · by **sto_vo_kor_2000** » Sun May 22, 2016 3:11 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Wait are you on about when he experimented on his followers to create his horsemen on muir island in the 90s?

experimented is not the word i would use

but he took those people and enhanced their powers

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Sun May 22, 2016 3:20 pm

sto_vo_kor_2000 wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Wait are you on about when he experimented on his followers to create his horsemen on muir island in the 90s?

experimented is not the word i would use

but he took those people and enhanced their powers

Okay, yes, right, he did "experiment" on them and enhanced their abilities that way. The way Stewey made it sound was like that was his mutant ability or something, to enhance the powers of those around him. But yes, he used magic/science to do so. Now I'm on the same page as you, Sto.

News Credits: 25 · by **Ironhidensh** » Sun May 22, 2016 4:29 pm

Text lack of Wolverine makes me want to see this more.

by **Nemesis Maximo** » Mon May 23, 2016 10:45 am

Ironhidensh wrote:Text lack of Wolverine makes me want to see this more.

Makes me want to see it less.

News Credits: 22 · by **Rodimus Prime** » Wed May 25, 2016 4:04 am

Ironhidensh wrote:Text lack of Wolverine makes me want to see this more.

A cameo (a la First Class) wouldn't hurt. But yes, he should be a background character by now.

News Credits: 2 · by **Shadowman** » Thu May 26, 2016 1:33 pm

So I know this is for TVs and movies but I'm not seeing a comic thread...

Anyone want to talk about what the hell Captain America just did in the comics? It's so stupid I'm not even going to bother with spoiler tags; Steve Rogers has been an Agent of Hydra since before he became Captain America. The character created by two Jewish men has, in fact, been a Nazi collaborator the entire time. The character who is the reason Hydra hasn't gotten anything done for the past 70 years has also been working for them.

I can't imagine Nick Spencer is going to be working for very long...